A few liberals are cheering on Rand

[erowe1]

Not many, but some. And I'm wondering why.

Isn't their whole system of government built on the exact thing Rand was railing against?

 

[TheGrinch]

Not many, but some. And I'm wondering why.

Isn't their whole system of government built on the exact thing Rand was railing against?

COMMON GROUND

We cannot continue to keep acting like those we disagree with are the problem, especially when they're willing to look past party towards shared principles. We will never get anything done by painting ourselves into a corner.

This is an AMERICAN issue, not a partisan one, so I'm very happy some are looking past party to show respect for a politician actually doing what's right and standing for principle (a rare thing nowadays).

It's been said before that half the reason we're here is shared ideology, the other (and perhaps more important) reason is that we stand for integrity. That is what will unite us against the disingenuous establsihments, and actually get a real debate going.

 

[supermario21]

The liberals are worthless. I think Dennis Kucinich, Ron Wyden, HuffPo, Glenn Greenwald, Code Pink, and The Young Turks are the only people I've actually heard on the left complain. They're just as much team blue as many on the right are team red. We just have to keep fighting and organizing like we did last night. Trending #1 in the WORLD. Republicans would be stupid to ignore our youth movement, especially considering our youth are actually engaged and not just Obamabots.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Not many, but some. And I'm wondering why.

Isn't their whole system of government built on the exact thing Rand was railing against?

You would think that this is an issue 100% of Americans could get behind. The fact we had about a what, 2 percent Congressional support, is amazing to me. [House and Senate] And how many of those just wanted some attention? I really am amazed that some people wouldn't be on Rand Paul's side for this. Naiveté or something.

 

[erowe1]

We cannot continue to keep acting like those we disagree with are the problem, especially when they're willing to look past party towards shared principles.

What are the shared principles?

If the state isn't allowed to use deadly force in ways that the rest of us aren't allowed, then what's left of the state at all?

 

[twomp]

What are the shared principles?

If the state isn't allowed to use deadly force in ways that the rest of us aren't allowed, then what's left of the state at all?

So you are upset that they are cheering on Rand Paul?

 

[supermario21]

Elizabeth Warren, champion of the left, votes for Brennan.

 

[scottditzen]

John Cusack stands with Rand!

In honor of this development, I'm gonna go rent Better off Dead or Say Anything....classics.

 

[Todd]

Not many, but some. And I'm wondering why.

Isn't their whole system of government built on the exact thing Rand was railing against?

Ya...and he just took control of it.

 

[QuickZ06]

COMMON GROUND

Good lord I would hope we would have common ground on such things.

 

[erowe1]

So you are upset that they are cheering on Rand Paul?

No. I'm just wondering where they're coming from. I don't see how they could not support the regime having the authority to use drones to kill whomever they decide wherever they decide.

If the regime weren't an occupying force that subjugated us against our wills, then it would cease to exist.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Wow, it's much worse than I thought. The Congressional support of Rand Paul [House and Senate] was a mere .0472 percent. /Sigh

 

[kcchiefs6465]

No. I'm just wondering where they're coming from. I don't see how they could not support the regime having the authority to use drones to kill whomever they decide wherever they decide.

If the regime weren't an occupying force that subjugated us against our wills, then it would cease to exist.

To be fair, I didn't hear any republicans speaking out against drones when George Bush was using them.

 

[erowe1]

To be fair, I didn't hear any republicans speaking out against drones when George Bush was using them.

Of course not. And again, I don't see how they could.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Of course not. And again, I don't see how they could.

Hypocrisy. Democrats by and large hated George Bush's foreign policy. They by and large love Obama's foreign policy. [pretty much the same policy, yet even more expansive] I really don't know the exact mental gymnastics their brains go through as to keep from imploding but I bet it's pretty interesting. Come a republican in office in 2016 and the tides will turn again. Only a few actually have the backbone to hold their principles above party colors.

 

[seapilot]

Wow, it's much worse than I thought. The Congressional support of Rand Paul [House and Senate] was a mere .0472 percent. /Sigh

Over 90% of the people think congress is doing a crappy job. Do not expect them to start doing a good job overnight.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Over 90% of the people think congress is doing a crappy job. Do not expect them to start doing a good job overnight.

Yeah but .0472 percent? I mean, that's incredible. We are talking about assassinating noncombatant Americans without a trial on American soil and only .0472 percent show up to support that? No wonder they can't get shit done. What could be a simpler issue to get behind? As Ted Cruz said, I really can't think of one.

 

[TheGrinch]

No. I'm just wondering where they're coming from. I don't see how they could not support the regime having the authority to use drones to kill whomever they decide wherever they decide.

If the regime weren't an occupying force that subjugated us against our wills, then it would cease to exist.

Look, not everyone is going to "get it" as far as the solutions, but that doesn't mean they can't understand some of the issues we face.

I don't see how you can discount bipartisanship as hypocritical. Just the opposite, its a starting point to build on common grounds.

 

[TheGrinch]

Plus its not like all leftists have abandoned their anti-police state views

 

[erowe1]

Look, not everyone is going to "get it" as far as the solutions, but that doesn't mean they can't understand some of the issues we face.

I don't see how you can discount bipartisanship as hypocritical. Just the opposite, its a starting point to build on common grounds.

I never discounted anything or called anything hypocritical. I just don't know what the common ground actually is here. I thought maybe someone here would.