A delegates Must Learn : Robert's Rules of Order

[Cinderella]

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[ronpaulhawaii]

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[specsaregood]

The establishment can't bully you if you are armed with knowledge!

Don't fool yourself. I'm quite certain the RP people in NV back in 2008 were following the rules. It didn't stop the GOP from bullying them, turning off the lights and leaving. Then the RP people followed the rules again and created their own convention, it didn't matter one bit.

It's good to know the rules; but the only way to not be bullied by the establishment is to become the establishment yourselves.

 

[JK/SEA]

Don't fool yourself. I'm quite certain the RP people in NV back in 2008 were following the rules. It didn't stop the GOP from bullying them, turning off the lights and leaving. Then the RP people followed the rules again and created their own convention, it didn't matter one bit.

It's good to know the rules; but the only way to not be bullied by the establishment is to become the establishment yourselves.

This.

At Washington States convention, we had very well versed people in position to 'attack' the chairs authority, and the parlimentarian. One word i heard a lot was 'deletorious'>sp< from the chair. It seemed to work, because it shut down any further debate or motions....hopefully a majority will render this establishment tactic useless this time. The key is BODIES.

 

[mosquitobite]

If the chair is entertaining a motion 'without objection,' another motion would be out of order, unless it was a motion with higher precedence. Instead, just "object!" and a vote will be taken.

I must say though, and perhaps I am just fortunate, chairs don't ordinarily use this unless it concerns something for which there legitimately is unlikely to be any objection. 'Without objection' is more at home in Mason's Manual than in Robert's Rules, and to use it to avoid controversial votes would be highly irregular. If there were an objection and then a division, and the 'ayes' got less than 95% the chair should be highly embarrassed for having tried 'without objection' in the first place.

In 2008 in Indiana, they did just this because they knew they had the majority of delegates in the district caucuses.

Let's just say, if you want a state with THOROUGHLY entrenched establishment, Indiana is your state. Now, let's combine that with some passionate Paul supporters and...well... June 8-9th is going to be VERY interesting.

Hoping Ben Swann will come report

 

[thoughtomator]

I was agenda chairman for my school's Model Congress, so as long as Robert's Rules haven't changed substantially in 20 years I should be good. Trying to get myself a VA delegate slot.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

This.

At Washington States convention, we had very well versed people in position to 'attack' the chairs authority, and the parlimentarian. One word i heard a lot was 'deletorious'>sp< from the chair. It seemed to work, because it shut down any further debate or motions....hopefully a majority will render this establishment tactic useless this time. The key is BODIES.

A strong grasp of Robert's Rules is the engine and numbers are the fuel. In NV they shut the hall down and left. I recall winning the PR battle in NV in 2008 even if the establishment fled in terror...

 

[jointhefightforfreedom]

We also need people recording audio and video as much as possible!

 

[MozoVote]

Pick your battles wisely. An experienced chair can tell when there is a gadfly in the convention just throwing sand in the gears, when everyone else wants to get on with the agenda. The chair can rule "dilatory" on the troublemaker and ignore him, or ask the seargant-at-arms to remove that person from the assembly.

It's not a good idea to stand up repeatedly to nitpick things. You become seen as "...that guy again..." and turn the herd against you.

 

[PolicyReader]

We also need people recording audio and video as much as possible!

Knowing the rules is key, getting recordings of the proceedings is equally vital.

 

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[mosquitobite]

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