A delegates Must Learn : Robert's Rules of Order

[jointhefightforfreedom]

For any and all who want to be a delegate
Please get familiar with Robert's Rules of Order. This is essential in the delegate process!

The establishment can't bully you if you are armed with knowledge!

Robert's Rules of Order online

http://www.rulesonline.com/

 

[PolicyReader]

These truly are an essential part of the process be sure to become familiar with them.

 

[TER]

Great thread!

 

[GunnyFreedom]

positively critical. no joke.

 

[SCOTUSman]

Yep. I've had it bite me in the butt before when i didn't know them and when I did...it helped immensely.

 

[TER]

This should be a sticky.

 

[PolicyReader]

This should be a sticky.

I second.

 

[vechorik]

Let's include tips.

I'm studying Robert's rules and new, but I ended up reading an article about how to chair (even if it was way above my current skill level).
I learned a gem though.

A tip for chairmen that us "commoners" better watch out for.
At anytime, a chairman can say "if there is no objection we will ______________________________"

Perk up people if you hear this. It means (if you don't stand and object) they can do whatever they propose WITHOUT a vote!

(Did I understand what I read correctly? Any more input to this? When one stands to object, should they also say "I move to ........" alternate suggestion?)

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Let's include tips.

I'm studying Robert's rules and new, but I ended up reading an article about how to chair (even if it was way above my current skill level).
I learned a gem though.

A tip for chairmen that us "commoners" better watch out for.
At anytime, a chairman can say "if there is no objection we will ______________________________"

Perk up people if you hear this. It means (if you don't stand and object) they can do whatever they propose WITHOUT a vote!

(Did I understand what I read correctly? Any more input to this? When one stands to object, should they also say "I move to ........" alternate suggestion?)

If the chair is entertaining a motion 'without objection,' another motion would be out of order, unless it was a motion with higher precedence. Instead, just "object!" and a vote will be taken.

I must say though, and perhaps I am just fortunate, chairs don't ordinarily use this unless it concerns something for which there legitimately is unlikely to be any objection. 'Without objection' is more at home in Mason's Manual than in Robert's Rules, and to use it to avoid controversial votes would be highly irregular. If there were an objection and then a division, and the 'ayes' got less than 95% the chair should be highly embarrassed for having tried 'without objection' in the first place.

 

[DGambler]

Get and use this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1592575692/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

 

[TXcarlosTX]

truth bump

 

[tsetsefly]

I second.

yup, should be sticky!

 

[vechorik]

If the chair is entertaining a motion 'without objection,' another motion would be out of order, unless it was a motion with higher precedence. Instead, just "object!" and a vote will be taken.

I must say though, and perhaps I am just fortunate, chairs don't ordinarily use this unless it concerns something for which there legitimately is unlikely to be any objection. 'Without objection' is more at home in Mason's Manual than in Robert's Rules, and to use it to avoid controversial votes would be highly irregular. If there were an objection and then a division, and the 'ayes' got less than 95% the chair should be highly embarrassed for having tried 'without objection' in the first place.

Thanks for your answer. Maybe I'm paranoid. I just read "dirty tricks" in 2008 and am searching for things to watch out for -- things newbies get taken advantage of for not knowing.

 

[whippoorwill]

BUMP!

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Thanks for your answer. Maybe I'm paranoid. I just read "dirty tricks" in 2008 and am searching for things to watch out for -- things newbies get taken advantage of for not knowing.

Ohh there's plenty of dirty tricks, that's just not generally one of them. One they like to use a lot is the moment the 'establishments' business is done, someone moves to adjourn. It will behoove us, therefore, to jump to the head of the line and get OUR business done first, so that we don't get blocked by a move to adjourn.

 

[IPSecure]

Should we hire Professional Parliamentarians, use the diamond method, and steer these meetings towards Liberty, from Local, to County, to State, to National?

Interesting links below. Any thoughts?

How to become the Senate's referee.
Parliamentarians keep order at meetings by applying Robert's Rules of Order.
Taos board hires parliamentarian to assist with meetings. (Tax Payer Funded!)
When and how to hire a Professional Parliamentarian.
National Association of Parliamentarians
American Institute of Parliamentarians

Chip-In? Rev-Pac? Anyone?

 

[Cinderella]

I bought Roberts Rule for Dummies and I bought the official Roberts Rule and I must say, the for Dummies book is really helpful. It has nice examples and the book explains things very simply.

Key terms:

If you want to...

Enforce the rules : Point of order
Overrule a decision of the chair : Appeal
Question the result of a voice vote : Division of the assembly
Asking a question pertaining to motion on the floor : Point of information

 

[thesnake742]

Bump. We should sticky this. I studied these for the first time on the day of my caucus. It was the difference between me looking and feeling clueless, and being active and prominent in the meeting. I ended up looking like I was an expert, because my moderator asked "If i had been doing this for a while" hahaha

 

[vechorik]

I bought Roberts Rule for Dummies and I bought the official Roberts Rule and I must say, the for Dummies book is really helpful. It has nice examples and the book explains things very simply............

Thanks, I'll order it.
I also printed out this 2-sheet pdf to take where ever I go. Condensed, yet has the details

http://www.jimslaughter.com/pdffiles/ROBERTS11th.pdf

 

[jamezelle]

mods please sticky this!