A challenge has been raised...where do you stand?

[enonesoch]

There has been the suggestion that whichever MoneyBomb raises more money (September 7th or September 17th) will take the lead on declaring all future moneybombs for the rest of the year. That is, if September 7th is bigger than September 17th, then PopularLiberty picks the date and RonPaulForums will be onboard no question...no division. If the 17th is bigger, RonPaulForums picks the date and PopularLiberty will be onboard no questions...no division. Please weigh the potential benefits for each date, as there are many, I respect your decision. Sincerely Enonesoch


I also want to make clear the challenge is for the benefits that come from constructive competition and not to divide (I'll be donating on both dates, but primarily on September 7th), but also it may help to bring us under the same umbrella so our future moneybomb can have the biggest impact. There have been comments about it forming naturally and I fully agree that the creation of a moneybomb begins organically, but it can bring with it an impact that won't be manifest without organization, commitment and follow through. All donations count. When they become consolidated the affect of the whole becomes greater than the parts.

 

[adam220891]

Benefits of 17th are more time to organize, and if Rand has a good debate, there will be a burning desire to contribute. Headlines of $1 million or more raised following the debate would be good press. I'm also inclined to believe the folks at RPF have put in a ton of work into the organization of the event and have a good track record of strong organization/turnout when it comes to moneybombs. Lastly, there was a vote, and the people have spoken.

 

[afwjam]

It does not need to be official. It's always played out like this with the early moneybombs and the folks on Ron Paul forums always come through organizing most of the moneybombs. Let it happen naturally. There's the guy pushing the 22nd and in some ways is ahead already. All this frenzy of activity is just the grass roots waking up and the end result will benefit Rand and us. The order will come naturally as it does in nature. Their are those who will always be up for the extra emotions and drama and then there are those who will just get the job done. I'm in for a little of both, it will be good to get caught up in a grass roots whirlwind.

Apathy mode: OFF

Thanks Dr. Paul

 

[erowe1]

Do money bombs really matter any more? I feel like their 5 minutes of fame are over. The key is to maximize the total amount raised, the more the better, and the sooner the better. If there is also a secondary goal of doing something to get attention and media coverage, it's going to have to be something new.

 

[afwjam]

No they don't matter for the media, they matter for the grass roots. We need to get excited about proving the media wrong in order to give Paul a lot of money and still be ignored by the media. This enthusiasm can only benefit Paul.

 

[Jackie Moon]

Do money bombs really matter any more? I feel like their 5 minutes of fame are over. The key is to maximize the total amount raised, the more the better, and the sooner the better. If there is also a secondary goal of doing something to get attention and media coverage, it's going to have to be something new.

I agree that the overall goal is to raise money, and if everyone were going to donate anyways then we could all just do it whenever and it wouldn't matter. I agree that unless it's huge it's probably not going to get a lot of news coverage, outside of when they report their overall quarter totals.

But I do believe there is a benefit in having a money bomb, as posted in the other thread. I think it can bring in new donors and motivate people to give that might not have...

If everyone were already going to donate anyways, I agree.

But running a large, well promoted money bomb that is adopted by the campaign will draw in people that wouldn't have gone to the donation page on their own and given money. You're calling out across the internet, bringing people in, and creating an environment where donating makes them feel like part of a group effort. It's not just you alone deciding to donate on a Tuesday night, it's an event. You become part of a team.

There is something extra to the experience when your donation gets added to the big ticker on the campaign's website, and you see your name come across. That's going to help encourage someone that would not have given on their own to donate even a small amount. And maybe someone that was going to donate gives a little extra because they want to help reach $1 million before the day is over.

At least it worked on me. The first time I donated to Ron was because I saw a money bomb. All these people had put in so much time and effort organizing and promoting, everyone had changed their profile pictures, and all the supporters were posting their screenshots and receipts. It fired me up. How could I just sit back and watch and not give something to help reach the goal?

I think I donated $20. Not much, but I had never given to a candidate before and I don't know if I would have without that. But after that I was hooked... and now I'm here trying to make this money bomb be that first donation for someone else.

 

[lfrml]

I agree with Jackie Moon. I like to see names (especially mine) flash across the official website when I donate.