A bit surprised to read this quote from Dr. Paul

[anewvoice]

Geez people, if Dr. Paul hasn't proven himself to you yet, I don't really know how he ever can.

Don't examine every damn word printed by the media. If Paul's 20+ year voting record doesn't prove to you what he is all about, then you have some studying to do.

+rep QFT

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

I could see RP accepting, and I would gladly support RP as vice president if he got the following concessions from Romney, and Romney only:

1. Appoint Jim Grant as Fed Reserve Chair
2. No wars without a congressional declaration
3. Legalize competing currency
4. 250 billion+ year one budget cuts
5. Fix our corporate tax code
6. Abolish the TSA

I can think of 10 things to add to that list and even then I'd still feel really bad about Romney in the WH. There's a poll I saw about Mitt/Paul possible alliances and the supporters who partcipated were really clear. If it isn't Ron only then he won't get a vote because they would feel like he somehow betrayed them by becoming just another career politician. Never going to happen though.

 

[jolynna]

If he asks me to vote for Romney, I'll lose a great deal of respect for the man. My faith in him has limits.

I love Ron Paul to death, but I couldn't vote for an anti-liberty candidate because he tells me to.

I will lose respect for him should he ask me to.

Upholding their oath of office, which means upholding the constitution and protecting our lives, liberty and assuring justice for all is the LEAST we should expect from our leader. NOBODY that supports NDAA or the Patriot Act and a horde of other assaults can be a consideration.

This is the old, if everybody else jumped off of a bridge would you do it? We aren't blind sheep or lemmings, unless we behave like those animals. Ethics MATTER. The ethics which are the foundation of the movement CAN'T be compromised.

In my opinion.

 

[sailingaway]

I wanted people to see the video and you stole the punch line. It took me forever to find, too.



the Q & A is about 29 minutes in, this particular question starts at 39:18 ish, but there are other good questions, such as what fiction and non fiction does he read...

Will you watch this, already? I think it answers the point. You can go directly to the question, at about 39:18. I marked the time. This was Spokane on Friday.

If Ron doesn't win, however he uses his delegates will be for OUR benefit, as best he can.

 

[jolynna]

Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
That is a terrible way to look at things. Ron Paul is a stud, but he won't be around forever. Our movement needs to be based on philosophy, or it will die a slow, pathetic death.

More +rep from me.

The movement isn't any ONE person (or his son).

It is based on philosophies that cannot be compromised and diluted without ALL of the message being sacrificed. There is no such thing as "some" liberty, "some" guarantee of life and "some" justice.

From the very first debate on, Ron Paul has been like a beacon from behind his podium. His integrity shows up ALL of the competition for "what they are"--which is pretty repulsive. Once you've gone Paul (and bought into his ideals) there is no looking back (or compromising).

In my opinion.

 

[nf7mate]

The media's latest attempt to diminish Paul appears to be to present him as a sell out. Yeah, right. Anyone that has been paying attention won't believe that garbage.

Ron Paul will not endorse Romney unless we get something major, like naming Ron Paul as the Fed Chairman or a dramatic reduction in overseas bases.

Romney would not do such things, so Ron will not be endorsing Romney. Don't believe the media.

 

[The_Ruffneck]

Starting to sound more like a typical con, which is not good in my opinion. Number one goal should be to win the nomination. If we can't do that, we screw the GOP in November, make them pay for what they've done to us, and take it over in 2016.

uhh he's trying to woo the flip floppers who move from romney to santorum to gingrich.Good move IMO may get a few extra votes.

 

[69360]

Romney would not do such things, so Ron will not be endorsing Romney. Don't believe the media.

Why wouldn't he? He wants to win the election and he's had no problem changing his positions in the past.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Why wouldn't he? He wants to win the election and he's had no problem changing his positions in the past.

And why would Ron endorse him? It's not like Ron isn't aware that Romney says things to get elected.

 

[djruden]

Paul has said numberous times that any of his republican competitors would be better than Obama and this isn't that different. It's a pretty obvious and easy to say thing.

 

[mhad]

he has said this many times. move on.

 

[sailingaway]

Paul has said numberous times that any of his republican competitors would be better than Obama and this isn't that different. It's a pretty obvious and easy to say thing.

He usually says that he pretty much sees them all the same, but in this instance he was saying 'we all want to beat Obama, don't we? So look at the polls right now of who beats Obama, and vote for me!'

I honestly haven't the slightest objection.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

He does it to attract people who think he's a kook. Because, remember, this election is not about freedom to these people, but about beating Obama. Who cares if it's Adolf Stalin, as long as Obama is out of the white house.

 

[69360]

And why would Ron endorse him? It's not like Ron isn't aware that Romney says things to get elected.

To get a VP nomination for himself or Rand and advance the cause. To run on a platform that is the best he can do for the country with what he has to work with. We're in a lot of trouble as a country and a compromise on positions that is acceptable to both side's supporters is better than being shut out of the process.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

Ive seen him wave a couple of times and I didn't notice any nail holes in his hand.

 

[Sola_Fide]

"My nickname for you is Apostle Paul,” Laura Christian, a 55-year-old Paul supporter, told him.

“No, no, don’t go that far,” Paul told her.

*sniffle*

Dr. Paul is the Apostle Paul....the Augustine...the Martin Luther...the Samuel Adams of our day.

Why am in tears so much today?

 

[jolynna]

Thanks to the link to the Spokane speech.

QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE: "Is it ever o.k. to put your party ahead of your principles?"

RON PAUL: "NEVER"

'nuf said.

 

[jolynna]

Why wouldn't he? He wants to win the election and he's had no problem changing his positions in the past.

Let Romney change his positions to OUR way NOW if he is going to court us.

So far Romney's wooing of Ron Paul supporters leaves a LOT to be desired.

He's advocating the Patriot Act and NDAA. Wants Guatanemo camp to be TWICE as big so that the detainees won't have access to lawyers. Thinks there should be MORE eavesdropping (even in mosques) and spying minus warrants. This speech by Ron Paul in Spokane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v4S-qiSk1Is#!) specifically "digs" at Romney's use of the term "American Exceptionalism" which Romney uses to justify his imperialistic ideals (http://www.mittromney.com/sites/default/files/shared/AnAmericanCentury-WhitePaper_0.pdf)

ENDORSING ROMNEY NOW, would be like MARRYING A DRINKER WITH HOPES YOU CAN REFORM HIM. (How often does THAT ever work out?)

Ron Paul says he will NEVER compromise his principles. He won't ask his supporters to do it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v4S-qiSk1Is#)

In my opinion.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Ive seen him wave a couple of times and I didn't notice any nail holes in his hand.

No, but a swift 24hr ordeal would have been over by now, he's been enduring for 30+ years in the face of ridicule.

 

[jbuttell]

Maybe so, but this movement exists because of Ron Paul. He is our pioneer, our shepherd, and if he says something is good, I know it's good. I will trust him. He has earned it.

Agreed, but I find it somewhat strange that you'd even begin to entertain the idea that Ron would endorse Romney. Just isn't going to happen.