A bit surprised to read this quote from Dr. Paul

I think you all need to stop being so anal. Yes the other republican candidates aren't ideal, but they are still better then the democRATs. Look at Obama's administration - they've said their concern is not even with gas prices rising, they said they WANT gas prices to go up to force people to buy fuel efficient vehicles. I have nothing against fuel efficient vehicles and I agree it should be a long term goal to cut dependence on fossil fuels, but unless the government wants to buy me a $30,000 hybrid car tomorrow, I don't see any way I'm going to be able to get one. What these rich democrats do not realize is 99% of Americans can not afford to just go out and plop down 30 grand or more on a new car without thinking twice, just because they can with their millions of dollars. But sure democrats, keep destroying the country. We will see how good the economy is when unemployment is at 75% or higher because no one can afford to drive back and forth to work every day with $9.00 per gallon gasoline. This should be enough reason to vote a republican into office.

I think we can all agree that Ron Paul is our hero, sure, and a million times better than any of the other republican candidates. But sorry, if Ron Paul endorses Romney, than Romney is good enough for me. Ron Paul is far more wise than me, or ANY OF US HERE and we should trust his wisdom. If he would rather see any republican take the white house, we should too.
 
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LibertyInNY said:
I think you all need to stop being so anal. Yes the other republican candidates aren't ideal, but they are still better then the democRATs. Look at Obama's administration - they've said their concern is not even with gas prices rising, they said they WANT gas prices to go up to force people to buy fuel efficient vehicles. I have nothing against fuel efficient vehicles and I agree it should be a long term goal to cut dependence on fossil fuels, but unless the government wants to buy me a $30,000 hybrid car tomorrow, I don't see any way I'm going to be able to get one. What these rich democrats do not realize is 99% of Americans can not afford to just go out and plop down 30 grand or more on a new car without thinking twice, just because they can with their millions of dollars. But sure democrats, keep destroying the country. We will see how good the economy is when unemployment is at 75% or higher because no one can afford to drive back and forth to work every day with $9.00 per gallon gasoline. This should be enough reason to vote a republican into office.

I think we can all agree that Ron Paul is our hero, sure, and a million times better than any of the other republican candidates. But sorry, if Ron Paul endorses Romney, than Romney is good enough for me. Ron Paul is far more wise than me, or ANY OF US HERE and we should trust his wisdom. If he would rather see any republican take the white house, we should too.
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That is a terrible way to look at things. Ron Paul is a stud, but he won't be around forever. Our movement needs to be based on philosophy, or it will die a slow, pathetic death.
 
LibertyInNY said:
I think you all need to stop being so anal. Yes the other republican candidates aren't ideal, but they are still better then the democRATs. Look at Obama's administration - they've said their concern is not even with gas prices rising, they said they WANT gas prices to go up to force people to buy fuel efficient vehicles. I have nothing against fuel efficient vehicles and I agree it should be a long term goal to cut dependence on fossil fuels, but unless the government wants to buy me a $30,000 hybrid car tomorrow, I don't see any way I'm going to be able to get one. What these rich democrats do not realize is 99% of Americans can not afford to just go out and plop down 30 grand or more on a new car without thinking twice, just because they can with their millions of dollars. But sure democrats, keep destroying the country. We will see how good the economy is when unemployment is at 75% or higher because no one can afford to drive back and forth to work every day with $9.00 per gallon gasoline. This should be enough reason to vote a republican into office.

I think we can all agree that Ron Paul is our hero, sure, and a million times better than any of the other republican candidates. But sorry, if Ron Paul endorses Romney, than Romney is good enough for me. Ron Paul is far more wise than me, or ANY OF US HERE and we should trust his wisdom. If he would rather see any republican take the white house, we should too.
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sorry, you've been around but you haven't figured it out either.

Say Romney wins, is he going to stop driving up the debt and stop inflating the currency? No. It doesnt matter if its a D or R in the office. We are going to get what is coming regardless. Whether Ron Paul becomes the nominee and wins or doesn't become the nominee at all, if we are going to want lower gas prices, we are going to have to make CONGRESS abolish the Federal Reserve.

I don't know about you, but I have only voted 2 times in my life. Both were for George Bush a Republican. There is nothing that will get me to vote again, besides RP being on the ballot.
 
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Then you are not a Ron Paul supporter, so please don't vote for him. If you think you know what is best for America and Ron doesn't, maybe you should go run for president.
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If he asks me to vote for Romney, I'll lose a great deal of respect for the man. My faith in him has limits.
 
Feeding the Abscess said:
That is a terrible way to look at things. Ron Paul is a stud, but he won't be around forever. Our movement needs to be based on philosophy, or it will die a slow, pathetic death.
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Maybe so, but this movement exists because of Ron Paul. He is our pioneer, our shepherd, and if he says something is good, I know it's good. I will trust him. He has earned it.
 
I'm just gonna either vote for a third party like the libertarian party or not at all if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination. I personally have no preference between establishment republican and establishment liberal. Republicans can actually be worse on some civil liberties so I see neither as superior to the other.

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If he asks me to vote for Romney, I'll lose a great deal of respect for the man. My faith in him has limits.
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Oh come on.
 
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Then you are not a Ron Paul supporter, so please don't vote for him. If you think you know what is best for America and Ron doesn't, maybe you should go run for president.
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Really did you just tell someone NOT to vote for Ron Paul because he WON'T vote for Romney even if Ron Paul whispers it in his ear while dreaming? If you think Ron Paul knows what is best for every one of his supporters, maybe you should go become a doctor.
 
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Maybe so, but this movement exists because of Ron Paul. He is our pioneer, our shepherd, and if he says something is good, I know it's good. I will trust him. He has earned it.
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Ron Paul himself said ideas are the only things that matter; that politicians are pretty much irrelevant.
 
Really people need to stop harping on every little thing. Gotta get priorities straight. If RP says that he thinks it would be better to vote for Mitt Romney than Barack Obama people can agree or disagree. I disagree because I think they're so similar it doesn't matter. But the important thing is does Ron Paul vote like Mitt Romney in Congress? No he doesn't. So a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for the liberty movement, which is what we need to build more so than any one individual. Otherwise all we'll be stuck with is Mitt Romneys because of our own self-defeatist ways.
 
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I think a Republican needs to beat Obama too...So that Ron will be vindicated when the new republican president does nothing to change our march toward tyranny.
 
So let me get this one straight. He is playing the left/right paradigm game just enough to make his message more appealing to regular voters and all of you are freaking out? I don't even know what to say on here anymore. This is exactly how Ron Paul should have been talking from the get go. He has avoided talking about Obama for far far too long. I personally think it's too little too late. Every single time Romney talks about getting rid of Obama, he gets loud applause because it's a message that resonates with ALL Republicans. It's an excellent way to reach out to people who may not have taken a serious look at you before.

You all wanted electability ads and greater appeal to the "older" voters right? Well this the type of stuff that works and I think he should have been saying this for months. It is the first step. You can't say you are able to beat Obama if you never talk about or attack him.

If you think this somehow implies Ron will endorse Romney, it is a figment of your own imagination.
 
Maybe Ron is just watching our backs. When/If Obama wins the general, no one will be able to blame Ron for being a non-team player, someone who won't even support a fellow Republican in the general, just like last time. It's a complaint I hear often.
 
I could see RP accepting, and I would gladly support RP as vice president if he got the following concessions from Romney, and Romney only:

1. Appoint Jim Grant as Fed Reserve Chair
2. No wars without a congressional declaration
3. Legalize competing currency
4. 250 billion+ year one budget cuts
5. Fix our corporate tax code
6. Abolish the TSA
 
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