96% of MSNBC viewers believe Bundy is a domestic terrorist.

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I am very tempted to say that statistic is manipulated (which it very well may be), but other threads, like the "Yahoo comments on Bundy" thread does indicate there is a trend to support Govt abuse.

Voltaire and something about "the chains that slaves revere"...
 
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I am very tempted to say that statistic is manipulated (which it very well may be), but other threads, like the "Yahoo comments on Bundy" thread does indicate there is a trend to support Govt abuse.

Voltaire and something about "the chains that slaves revere"...
But the other threads of government trolls dictating opinion through unconventional means (social media and comment sections, for example) would lead me to believe that most are merely tired propaganda tactics used to depress and overwhelm their opposition.

Fucking Tokyo Roses and government whores.

I wouldn't be surprised if the number represented a certain demographic, but MSNBC is journalistically the lowest of the low.
 
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But the other threads of government trolls dictating opinion through unconventional means (social media and comment sections, for example) would lead me to believe that most are merely tired propaganda tactics used to depress and overwhelm their opposition.

Fucking Tokyo Roses and government whores.

I wouldn't be surprised if the number represented a certain demographic, but MSNBC is journalistically the lowest of the low.

Just another contributing factor: Govt PAYS for Pro Govt Shills to post their replies on popular boards. Most people think what the group thinks, which is why so many of us are here.
 
Just another contributing factor: Govt PAYS for Pro Govt Shills to post their replies on popular boards. Most people think what the group thinks, which is why so many of us are here.

I don't need to worry about thinkin', what with only one functional cell remaining....
 
MSNBC is journalistically the lowest of the low.
Right now I agree with you.

But FOX/MSNBC are all equals in the larger scheme. It depends on the times. MSNBC made some really good points when Bush was waging his wars across the globe. People saw Obermann, Matthews and Maddow as heroes against the war at one time on these forums. They were against the Patriot Act, the wars etc. Beck Hannity, et el were for every kind of tyranny. Once Obama was in they flipped sides.

It will happen again when republicans regain the Whitehouse. All of the sudden MSNBC will be against the wars, Patriot Act, NDAA. Beck Hannity, et al will before it all. They are all paid whores. They coral the sheep into their left/right paradigm to fight each other.

It reminds me of the so-called "swing voter" Kennedy. He coincidentally swings in favor of tyranny to make it look like there is a difference.
 
With a republican back in the Whitehouse in 201, Beck will go back to maligning us again and people on the forum will say "I think Ed Schultz is really coming around these days."
 
Right now I agree with you.

But FOX/MSNBC are all equals in the larger scheme. It depends on the times. MSNBC made some really good points when Bush was waging his wars across the globe. People saw Obermann, Matthews and Maddow as heroes against the war at one time on these forums. They were against the Patriot Act, the wars etc. Beck Hannity, et el were for every kind of tyranny. Once Obama was in they flipped sides.

It will happen again when republicans regain the Whitehouse. All of the sudden MSNBC will be against the wars, Patriot Act, NDAA. Beck Hannity, et al will before it all. They are all paid whores. They coral the sheep into their left/right paradigm to fight each other.

It reminds me of the so-called "swing voter" Kennedy. He coincidentally swings in favor of tyranny to make it look like there is a difference.
Very true.

There are those with principle who whenever given the chance to be on either medium calls out their hypocrisy. Jeremy Scahill, Glenn Greenwald, Ron Paul etc. With the rise of alternative media and their hypocrisy tubed for all to see, their days as broadcast propagandists are numbered.
 
Very true.

There are those with principle who whenever given the chance to be on either medium calls out their hypocrisy. Jeremy Scahill, Glenn Greenwald, Ron Paul etc. With the rise of alternative media and their hypocrisy tubed for all to see, their days as broadcast propagandists are numbered.
I truly hope you're right. I've been getting cynical these days.
 
This Clip Of Chris Hayes Vs. Bundy Supporter Assemblywoman Michele Fiore Is Awesome

http://therightscoop.com/this-clip-...orter-assemblywoman-michele-fiore-is-awesome/

Last night, Chris Hayes face off against Assemblywoman Michele Fiore over the ongoing saga of the Bundy Ranch. Fiore reminds us why we love TV.

Fiore for the win! The Assemblywoman is feisty, unflappable, stays on message, goes at Hayes hard, and comes out looking great. A terrific segment and a good interview by Hayes, amazingly enough. The best part was when she left him flat-footed right at the end after catching him with the slaughter question. Although Hayes salvages the moment for himself with the barbecue crack. You can agree or disagree with Bundy or Fiore all you want, but that is how you handle a hostile interview.

Someone call Michele Fiore and tell her to seek higher office immediately. Or at least have her email me for an interview!!

video at link
 
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I keep hearing this bizarre concept of "Federal Lands" being thrown around.

They are not Federal Lands.. They are public Lands.. Owned by no one. and should be managed by the counties that they are in. By the people that live near and around them.
They belong to the "people". They are not owned by the Federal Government. or should not be by any stretch of imagination.
 
I don't need to worry about thinkin', what with only one functional cell remaining....

Then I got you beat, I have two cells! Only problem is one is out and lost somewhere and the other is out looking for it!
 
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