<8/29/08> Who Are You Voting For?

[shepburn]

bump

 

[josephadel_3]

Ralph Nader - Both Barr and Baldwin are absent from Maine Ballot.

 

[josephadel_3]

Ok, I guess we'll just let the neocons rule forever then, while we remain a splintering movement with 100 different parties to vote for.

Honestly, the only way for us to win (EVER) is going to be by taking over a major party from the ground up. Voting for these no-name guys in no-name parties isn't going to help. I hate it, but that's the way it is. You either have to play within the system, or tear it down and start over, and while I would prefer to do the latter, it's not something one can do on one's own, so I will do what I can until the Revolution gets here for real.

Obama is a neoconservative, just more open about his socialist ideology.

 

[Kludge]

Bump

 

[heavenlyboy34]

+1

As much as I respect the LP and CP, the only way we can ever advance our ideals besides violent revolution is through taking over the GOP.

OR-leave it to die like a useless horse with 2 broken legs, drowning in the vommit and drool of its own mediocrity and seek a better future elsewhere. I'm up for THAT! I take Bob Barr (with reservations, but hope it turns out right).

 

[josephadel_3]

OR-leave it to die like a useless horse with 2 broken legs, drowning in the vommit and drool of its own mediocrity and seek a better future elsewhere. I'm up for THAT! I take Bob Barr (with reservations, but hope it turns out right).

Where's the dead horse beating emoticon when you need it?

Screw the GOP. I'm going Independent, my initial gut instinct since I was ten years old.

 

[DAFTEK]

Where's the dead horse beating emoticon when you need it?

Screw the GOP. I'm going Independent, my initial gut instinct since I was ten years old.

Ron Paul wants to take back the GOP.... :o I went independent after being a Republican all my life, then i realized what a big mistake i made thanks to many of the members here, i am now a Ron Paul Republican again...

 

[Kludge]

bump

 

[Standing Like A Rock]

who the hell voted for the socialist party usa?

 

[DAFTEK]

who the hell voted for the socialist party usa?

lol.....

 

[Cascadian]

We're not voting (my husband and I). Already played the lesser-of-two-evils voting game. The last 30 to 40yrs, or more, of Americans voting for the lesser-evil has been largely responsible for where we are today. We really don't want to be part of that process again. We only registered again last Fall to vote for Ron Paul.

Everyone here wanted change, but what do some do? Ron Paul doesn't win the nomination and they go back to the same-ol' same-ol'. These folks can support the State with their vote if they wish, but since, in theory, governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, we are, once again, withdrawing our consent.

 

[NewFederalist]

I commend your logic. I don't necessarily agree with it but I understand your point.

 

[Cascadian]

We weren't trying to make a point, really. Just stating why we choose not to vote in this election. If not for Ron Paul we would not have compromised our principles and voted in the primaries. We were even delegates! Another way of putting it, if not for Ron Paul we would not have set foot in the cesspool.

Even so, we would have written Ron Paul in, but as he pointed out, that is futile. We will continue to do what we think is right. We will not support a corrupt system by being willing participants. We will continue to spread the message of liberty, as we have for years.

Truth Warrior posted this on another thread, and it sums up our beliefs regarding government:

"I heartily accept the motto,—"That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe—"That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. The objections which have been brought against a standing army, and they are many and weighty, and deserve to prevail, may also at last be brought against a standing government. The standing army is only an arm of the standing government. The government itself, which is only the mode which the people have chosen to execute their will, is equally liable to be abused and perverted before the people can act through it. Witness the present Mexican war, the work of comparatively a few individuals using the standing government as their tool; for in the outset, the people would not have consented to this measure." -- Henry David Thoreau "Civil Disobedience" ( 1st paragraph )

 

[Mesogen]

We're not voting (my husband and I). Already played the lesser-of-two-evils voting game. The last 30 to 40yrs, or more, of Americans voting for the lesser-evil has been largely responsible for where we are today. We really don't want to be part of that process again. We only registered again last Fall to vote for Ron Paul.

Everyone here wanted change, but what do some do? Ron Paul doesn't win the nomination and they go back to the same-ol' same-ol'. These folks can support the State with their vote if they wish, but since, in theory, governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, we are, once again, withdrawing our consent.

 

[Captain Shays]

Chuck Baldwin has my vote, my support and my money

 

[mediahasyou]

Is Voting an Act of Violence?
http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/073.php

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Why does Bob Barr sit like a woman? Still voting for him, though. ha. I could never sit that way, I'd be thinking I look gay.

 

[Kludge]

Final bump before restart.

 

[kombayn]

I'm voting for the Nader/Gonzalez ticket.

 

[NewFederalist]

After yesterday's Mongolian Cluster Fvck I am going to re-think my vote.