79 YEARS to the Date, Oct. 24, 1929 Here comes the CRASH!

[BeFranklin]

One week until the election.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

One week until the election.

How much money does the Plunge Protection have in coordination with JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, BofA, Wells, and Citi?

There has to be trails on all this market manipultions... PPT, etc

Same for the PM's and Paulson playing games with allowing Market Manipulations with allowing the above financials liquified over the past 90 days.

This is getting to be frigin Fiasco with INSIDER FEDERAL TRADING... you absolutely KNOW... the FEC has analysis tools to that automatically flag alarms.

Seems like all the government and banks are in on the SCAM

 

[DFF]

HOLLYWOOD, I took a lot of heat for this in another thread, but I'll say it again: if the PPT is propping up the US market and preventing it from crashing, good.

Yes, I know it's illegal as Hell, yes I know manipulations screw a lot of traders, but in the words of Spock "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one."

Extreme situations require extreme measures; Friday was a good example, and I suspect today will be as well.

 

[LibertyEagle]

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one."

You do realize, don't you, that this is close to a description of mob rule, or democracy. It's not exactly what we're about, since we believe in a Republic which protects the minority, or the one, against the force of the majority.

 

[DFF]

How can you separate the individual from the majority with regards to the credit crisis? Last I checked, we're all in this together, and if the market crashes, we all pay. Then the chances for a true Republic, which I wholeheartedly support, will evaporate, as we'll wind up with either Socialism or Marshal Law.

 

[Truth Warrior]

FWIW, the next Fibonacci ( Elliot Wave theory ) number would be 89 years from 1929, and not 79. That would tend to make 2018 a possible year of MAJOR concern.<IMHO>

2008 is 21 years ( Fibonacci number ) after 1987, however. http://www.ask.com/web?q=Fibonacci series&o=10616&l=dir&qsrc=167

Stay tuned for further developments.

 

[Dr.3D]

de⋅cep⋅tion
   /dɪˈsɛpʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [di-sep-shuhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the act of deceiving; the state of being deceived.
2. something that deceives or is intended to deceive; fraud; artifice.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Deception

The manipulation by the PPT and others is only an act of deception. They wish to make people believe things are different than they really are. This is an act of fraud.

By propping up the markets and making them appear better than they are, they are only influencing people to make more bad investments. By giving the market the appearance of doing better than the rest of the worlds markets, they are deceiving people into throwing more good money after bad.

This of course works in their favor, as when the market does finally correct for the manipulation, they will claim capitalism doesn't work and the free market needs to be regulated. Little do people understand, the market has been regulated and manipulated for so long, that is the reason it is failing.

 

[Truth Warrior]

You do realize, don't you, that this is close to a description of mob rule, or democracy. It's not exactly what we're about, since we believe in a Republic which protects the minority, or the one, against the force of the majority.

Since the individual is the smallest most numerous MINORITY, how come so many of us are so UNPROTECTED in your Republic ( so called )?

( I still think it's just a sociopathic plutocratic oligarchic kleptocracy, BTW. )

VOTE on!

 

[Dr.3D]

Since the individual is the smallest most numerous MINORITY, how come so many of us are so UNPROTECTED in your Republic ( so called )?

( I still think it's just a sociopathic plutocratic oligarchic kleptocracy, BTW )

The answer should be quite simple. This is not a Republic, nor has it been since the inception of the Federal Reserve and the violations of the U.S. Constitution have become so prevalent.

Ignore the U.S. Constitution and there is no Republic.

 

[Truth Warrior]

The answer should be quite simple. This is not a Republic, nor has it been since the inception of the Federal Reserve and the violations of the U.S. Constitution have become so prevalent.

Ignore the U.S. Constitution and there is no Republic.

Well, since [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Federal Constitution Is Dead[/FONT] , you keep on voting in and FOR the "system" because ............................ ?

The Illegality, Immorality, and Violence of All Political Action
http://users.aol.com/xeqtr1/voluntaryist/vopa.html

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." -- Benjamin Franklin

 

[Dr.3D]

Well, since [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Federal Constitution Is Dead[/FONT] , you keep on voting in and FOR the "system" because ............................ ?

The Illegality, Immorality, and Violence of All Political Action
http://users.aol.com/xeqtr1/voluntaryist/vopa.html

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." -- Benjamin Franklin

I'm not voting for the same system.
If I were going to vote for the same system, I would be voting for one of the two party clowns.

Edit: What would you suggest doing to change the system?

 

[Truth Warrior]

I'm not voting for the same system.
If I were going to vote for the same system, I would be voting for one of the two party clowns.

Edit: What would you suggest doing to change the system?

Not voting is a non-violent REVOLUTIONARY act.<IMHO>

"Do as you please - but harm no other in their person or property."



"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi

 

[Dr.3D]

Not voting is a non-violent REVOLUTIONARY act.<IMHO>

"Do as you please - but harm no other in their person or property."



"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Now I didn't say I wasn't going to vote. I just said I wasn't going to vote for the status quo. If more people would stand up for what is right and stop voting for the lesser of two evils and instead vote for the person who would try to change what has been happening to the U.S. Constitution, things would get a lot better pretty fast.

Since we do not vote in the Judges of the U.S. Supreme Court, there is no way we can elect ones that are not appointed by the status quo in Washington D.C.

The SCOTUS has been and will be interpreting the U.S. Constitution they way the powers that be have wanted them to interpret it for a long long time now, and it is time that stopped.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Now I didn't say I wasn't going to vote. I just said I wasn't going to vote for the status quo. If more people would stand up for what is right and stop voting for the lesser of two evils and instead vote for the person who would try to change what has been happening to the U.S. Constitution, things would get a lot better pretty fast.

Since we do not vote in the Judges of the U.S. Supreme Court, there is no way we can elect ones that are not appointed by the status quo in Washington D.C.

The SCOTUS has been and will be interpreting the U.S. Constitution they way the powers that be have wanted them to interpret it for a long long time now, and it is time that stopped.

THE question was:

Edit: What would you suggest doing to change the system?

I merely answered your question.

By voting, YOU, and the others in the MINORITY, are supporting, endorsing AND giving your consent to the CURRENT "system". WHO you vote for, and why, is totally irrelevant, in that context.<IMHO> Voting is simply playing the "system's" RIGGED game.




"We shall get nowhere until we start by recognizing that political behavior is largely non-rational, that the world is suffering from some kind of mental disease which must be diagnosed before it can be cured. " -- George Orwell

 

[Dr.3D]

THE question was: I merely answered your question.

By voting, YOU, and the others in the MINORITY, are supporting, endorsing AND giving your consent to the CURRENT "system". WHO you vote for, and why, is totally irrelevant, in that context.<IMHO>




"We shall get nowhere until we start by recognizing that political behavior is largely non-rational, that the world is suffering from some kind of mental disease which must be diagnosed before it can be cured. " -- George Orwell

Not voting isn't going to change anything either.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Not voting isn't going to change anything either.

So why even bother playing the "system's" RIGGED game?

I'll grant your statement, if you grant mine.

"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -- Emma Goldman

The Power of Non-Violent Resistance
http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/027b.php

 

[Dr.3D]

So why even bother playing the system's RIGGED game? I'll grant your statement, if you grant mine.

The Power of Non-Violent Resistance
http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/027b.php

That leads to the question, what are we doing here on the Ron Paul forums?

Why even try to do a damned thing?

 

[Truth Warrior]

That leads to the question, what are we doing here on the Ron Paul forums?

Why even try to do a damned thing?

Two very EXCELLENT questions.<IMHO>

How many BILLIONS have been spent on THIS election year? How much totally WASTED time, energy and resources overall, and all for WHAT idiotic outcome?