73 Percent of Americans Are ‘Scared’ to Use Driverless Cars

[DamianTV]

They WANT these computerized nightmares because it is CONTROL THRU DEPENDENCY. Those who can not drive for themselves become dependent on machines to do it, or other people, and the people are being phased out.

Another thing that takes a huge shit in my cheerios is Keyless Entry. Its fine as long as you can use an actual key to get into the car when the battery dies due to cold weather. But these fucking idiots cant get it thru their thick skulls to leave the fucking key as a goddamn backup in case the battery dies. Just went thru this.

THERE IS NO FUCKING MECHANICAL KEY WHEN THE BATTERY DIES.

 

[Stratovarious]

They have driverless exercise machines at the gym.

 

[Stratovarious]

They WANT these computerized nightmares because it is CONTROL THRU DEPENDENCY. Those who can not drive for themselves become dependent on machines to do it, or other people, and the people are being phased out.

Another thing that takes a huge $#@! in my cheerios is Keyless Entry. Its fine as long as you can use an actual key to get into the car when the battery dies due to cold weather. But these $#@!ing idiots cant get it thru their thick skulls to leave the $#@!ing key as a goddamn backup in case the battery dies. Just went thru this.

THERE IS NO $#@!ING MECHANICAL KEY WHEN THE BATTERY DIES.

ha ha, I know, I opted out of everything 'smart' I could in my Cherokee Latitude.
I have a key slot if needed in the driver side door.

Driverless vehicles are like where they are taking Drone Tech, responsibility is no longer in
the hands of the operator, in fact injury and death hold no one responsible, there is
not incentive for safety , no one is to blame.
They can use this and will to execute whomever they chose, ooooops, that pesky software.

They will also be able to shut down entire towns from using their vehicles or entire states from same.
Say something in social media, get shut down.
No guilt of any crime, just get on a 'list' .
Social Scoring will be part of the tyranny.

 

[Stratovarious]

I wasn't polled, make that 73.0000010174 %

 

[DamianTV]

ha ha, I know, I opted out of everything 'smart' I could in my Cherokee Latitude.
I have a key slot if needed in the driver side door.

Driverless vehicles are like where they are taking Drone Tech, responsibility is no longer in
the hands of the operator, in fact injury and death hold no one responsible, there is
not incentive for safety , no one is to blame.
They can use this and will to execute whomever they chose, ooooops, that pesky software.

They will also be able to shut down entire towns from using their vehicles or entire states from same.
Say something in social media, get shut down.
No guilt of any crime, just get on a 'list' .
Social Scoring will be part of the tyranny.

You mentioned the Back Door to dismantle Freedom, the deprival of Self Responsibility, which means no person has ANY accountability to themselves. Driving to work and killed someone? Soon it will be "nobody's fault", and we place less and less value on human life. If death has no consequences, then life has no value.

 

[Stratovarious]

You mentioned the Back Door to dismantle Freedom, the deprival of Self Responsibility, which means no person has ANY accountability to themselves. Driving to work and killed someone? Soon it will be "nobody's fault", and we place less and less value on human life. If death has no consequences, then life has no value.

That's right its the software's fault or in the case of the drones; ''We are holding A I software responsible, they are
going to pay hell'' .......right ha ha.......

Those who can not drive for themselves become dependent on machines to do it...

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Not only this /\ but we will breed a whole new crop of people that will have never had any
experience driving, they won't even know what that would really mean , 'in time' .

 

[Swordsmyth]

Due to flaws in how the software running self-driving cars works, they may be more likely to run over black people.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not only this /\ but we will breed a whole new crop of people that will have never had any
experience driving, they won't even know what that would really mean , 'in time' .

Recent aviation and maritime accidents prove that trend.

Over reliance on computerized control systems, leading to fatal errors, when those systems failed or became unreliable and pilots and/or helmsmen were unable to maintain control/navigate safely and effectively.

 

[Stratovarious]

Recent aviation and maritime accidents prove that trend.

Over reliance on computerized control systems, leading to fatal errors, when those systems failed or became unreliable and pilots and/or helmsmen were unable to maintain control/navigate safely and effectively.

I can believe that.
Another thing that troubles me is that autonomous means 'practical' anonymity and
un accountability, no one will serve prison sentences for faulty software/interfacing etc.
Especially regarding drone operations, and killer drone operations.........it will just be
''oh well, what can we do'' .....

 

[Stratovarious]

Due to flaws in how the software running self-driving cars works, they may be more likely to run over black people.

SPLC will be calling for reparations.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Tesla Model S in China accelerates out of control “on its own,” crashed into the river

 

[Stratovarious]

Tesla Model S in China accelerates out of control “on its own,” crashed into the river

For anyone that read the article , it will be apparent and humorous to note that Fred Lambert is very likely a Big Grid , Socialist-Globalist.
''Evidence points to that...''

 

[Swordsmyth]

For anyone that read the article , it will be apparent and humorous to note that Fred Lambert is very likely a Big Grid , Socialist-Globalist.
''Evidence points to that...''

If the system malfunctioned why couldn't it have created a false log as well?

 

[Stratovarious]

If the system malfunctioned why couldn't it have created a false log as well?

Yes, no doubt.
Perhaps Drivers could mount dash cams , one in normal dash position and one configured or mounted
to view the driverside floor, monitoring the pedals.

 

[Swordsmyth]

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=2]Hackers have reportedly begun using stickers which confuse Tesla’s autopilot system to trick the cars into driving into the wrong lanes or towards oncoming traffic.[/h] Forbes reports that Keen Labs, a Chinese cybersecurity research group which is regarded as one of the best in the world, has successfully developed two different methods of confusing Tesla autopilot’s lane-recognition tech. The first method the researchers tried was to alter the lane markings on the road, adding patches to the ground to make them seem blurred. This worked but the patches on the road were particularly conspicuous and easily seen by drivers, as a result, Keen Labs determined this would be too hard to implement in the real world.
Keen Labs then attempted to create a “fake lane” after they discovered that Tesla’s autopilot would detect a laneway once it tracked three small stickers placed on the ground. The hackers tested this theory on a test track by placing small stickers at an intersection, believing they could trick the Tesla vehicle into thinking the patches marked out the continuation of the right-hand lane. This proved correct as the car took a turn into the real left lane which could easily have caused an accident on a real road.
Keen Labs wrote in a paper: “Our experiments proved that this architecture has security risks and reverse-lane recognition is one of the necessary functions for autonomous driving in non-closed roads. In the scene we build, if the vehicle knows that the fake lane is pointing to the reverse lane, it should ignore this fake lane and then it could avoid a traffic accident.”
Keen Labs also developed a method to control tesla’s windscreen wipers and take control of the cars steering using a game control pad, but both of these methods were quite impractical to implement and as a result did not pose a particular security threat. But Keen Labs warned that the fake lane hack would be easy to implement using cheap materials.

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019...opilot-into-driving-towards-oncoming-traffic/

 

[Stratovarious]

You don't even need to be a hacker to victimize occupants , all a thug needs
to do is stand in front of your wife's car and rob her, or stand behind it while
parked, the car isn't going anywhere.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

You mentioned the Back Door to dismantle Freedom, the deprival of Self Responsibility, which means no person has ANY accountability to themselves. Driving to work and killed someone? Soon it will be "nobody's fault", and we place less and less value on human life. If death has no consequences, then life has no value.

Ya know, back in the mid-90s, my driver's ed teacher predicted driverless cars would be coming any day nao, and it was a good idea. I don't think he thought it through like you did. But he was a coach of some sort, and didn't seem like someone who thought much about philosophy and ideas.

 

[pcosmar]

Ya know, back in the mid-90s, my driver's ed teacher predicted driverless cars would be coming any day nao, and it was a good idea. I don't think he thought it through like you did. But he was a coach of some sort, and didn't seem like someone who thought much about philosophy and ideas.

I saw it first in Playboy Magazine,,, a self driving van..

mid to late 70s.. and it ran on a cassette tape with pre recorded trip info.

still not ready for prime time.

 

[DamianTV]

Ya know, back in the mid-90s, my driver's ed teacher predicted driverless cars would be coming any day nao, and it was a good idea. I don't think he thought it through like you did. But he was a coach of some sort, and didn't seem like someone who thought much about philosophy and ideas.

Thats Schooling vs Learning.

Even Driving has a need for the philosophy of taking responsibility for both ones self, and the reasonable safety of others while operating ANY machine that could cause them harm. A good example I think is Drunk Driving. I dont give a shit about the law, I choose to not drive drunk because I can not afford to cause harm to myself, my car, or someone else. The law in the case of Drunk Driving is a bandaid for the problems caused by people that do not take responsibility for exercising their ability to travel. Same thing with guns. Break into a gun owners house then the person doing the breaking and entering should expect to get shot. However when going target shooting, people do exercise responsibility by being careful where they point then gun and visually checking to make sure there are no people where the target being shot is at.

Self Driving Cars as a tool of assistance is fine, once we get to that point. There are some people that flat out should not drive. For the majority of people, having the ability to travel great distances quickly is a big part of liberty. Rewind a couple hundred years and instead of self driving cars, we had self driving horses! Horses used to be a form of freedom just as cars are today. A lot of it depends on where a person lives. Some might be able to rely on Public Transportation, but when a person lives in Cuba and their trains typically run 12 hours behind, that just does not cut it in other parts of the world.

I am actually glad that we are not at a point where the Self Driving Cars are ready for Primetime. Its not just about driving, but the concepts of self reliance, problem solving, self maintenance, and the ability to adapt to situations. Once Self Reliance is replaced by dependency, then the dependent people typically do not resist, even when the authority upon which they are hopelessly dependent becomes Tyrannical in its nature, those people have no chance of being a catalyst for meaningful sustainable change.