70% of college students admit to cheating

[Promontorium]

You got your worthless degree, it gets you a job. Getting a job isn't a right, or even a gift. If you can do a job well, it shouldn't matter if you have a degree. But it does. Eventually, if enough people scam a degree, you'll need a Masters, which I think is the point we're at now. If it continues, the Masters will be worthless and you'll need a doctorate (like every one of my junior college teachers). As long as the standard is so misguided, it will continue to be a futile race.

College is a complicated beast. I've been given subjective grades. I've seen rigidty fail as well. I am rather confused as to what exactly college is supposed to accomplish. If it's to pass on information, I have a lot of ideas to improve things. If it's to teach people how to be better leaders, better employees, better humans, I have many ideas on how to improve. If it's to cheat, get high, drink, and bang sluts, then I say they are doing quite well.

 

[Vessol]

That's pretty sad. I think the one and only time I ever cheated was on a 4th grade spelling test. I clumsily slipped a paper to peak under my desk. Teacher of course noticed it, grabbed it and told me that I failed the test and had detention. I then had to tell my parents what I did. Never cheated once after that. I don't always get the most spectacular grades, and I could probably do well to study more, however I feel pride knowing that I don't ever cheat.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

You got your worthless degree, it gets you a job. Getting a job isn't a right, or even a gift. If you can do a job well, it shouldn't matter if you have a degree. But it does. Eventually, if enough people scam a degree, you'll need a Masters, which I think is the point we're at now. If it continues, the Masters will be worthless and you'll need a doctorate (like every one of my junior college teachers). As long as the standard is so misguided, it will continue to be a futile race.

College is a complicated beast. I've been given subjective grades. I've seen rigidty fail as well. I am rather confused as to what exactly college is supposed to accomplish. If it's to pass on information, I have a lot of ideas to improve things. If it's to teach people how to be better leaders, better employees, better humans, I have many ideas on how to improve. If it's to cheat, get high, drink, and bang sluts, then I say they are doing quite well.

Once upon a time, the point of higher education was enlightenment. Nowadays, thanks to discrimination laws, the degree functions more as a substitute for an IQ test (and a way to get into a whole lot of debt that can't be discharged in bankruptcy ). Another example of a giant fuck-up in the system thanks to gov'ment intervention.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

That's pretty sad. I think the one and only time I ever cheated was on a 4th grade spelling test. I clumsily slipped a paper to peak under my desk. Teacher of course noticed it, grabbed it and told me that I failed the test and had detention. I then had to tell my parents what I did. Never cheated once after that. I don't always get the most spectacular grades, and I could probably do well to study more, however I feel pride knowing that I don't ever cheat.

Good man! I never cheat either. Really, most college classes aren't very hard anymore anyways (in my experience).

 

[TCE]

Good man! I never cheat either. Really, most college classes aren't very hard anymore anyways (in my experience).

They're not hard, but they're a ton of work. This semester I have 70 pages or so just in final exams. If I add up all of the other papers, it's a scary number. So kids, at 5:00 am will say "screw it" and use Wikipedia or something. I don't cheat and probably never will, but the college system is severely broken. To the same extent, we could start talking about Gen Eds.

 

[juvanya]

I am not among them. I can truthfully say that I have never cheated in school. Not even copying homework answers. The concept just never crossed my mind. I would simply not hand it in.

 

[oyarde]

That's pretty sad. I think the one and only time I ever cheated was on a 4th grade spelling test. I clumsily slipped a paper to peak under my desk. Teacher of course noticed it, grabbed it and told me that I failed the test and had detention. I then had to tell my parents what I did. Never cheated once after that. I don't always get the most spectacular grades, and I could probably do well to study more, however I feel pride knowing that I don't ever cheat.

Detention for that ? thats terrible . I got tons of detention in High School , but it was always for cutting class for more important things like fishing , hunting , beer drinking .

 

[oyarde]

When I was a junior , with about a month of school left , I had to kind of negotiate out of some because I had more days than there was days left in the school year .....

 

[oyarde]

When I was a junior , with about a month of school left , I had to kind of negotiate out of some because I had more days than there was days left in the school year .....

Now , THAT was depressing . I would leave detention , go to ball practice and then to work .

 

[heavenlyboy34]

They're not hard, but they're a ton of work. This semester I have 70 pages or so just in final exams. If I add up all of the other papers, it's a scary number. So kids, at 5:00 am will say "screw it" and use Wikipedia or something. I don't cheat and probably never will, but the college system is severely broken. To the same extent, we could start talking about Gen Eds.

70 pages of exams? What is your major? Are you taking a shitload of credit hours? (I kept mine at 12-15 per semester so I could focus and have spare time for my own work/projects) My exams were mostly the scantron variety. The essay exams were at most 2-3 pages or so. (I majored in music composition at that time)