70 grams of protein daily cuts death in heart failure cases by 50 percent

[donnay]

LOL at using Daily Fail or Mail to criticize a source as unreliable!

It was all over the media it just happened to be the first report I saw and posted it. But here is more info:

Is Snopes a credible and authoritative source of information?

Snopes is now 50% owned by an ad agency (Proper Media) and they make money by generating millions of views on the 3rd-party advertisements on their website. It simply makes sense for them to seek out articles that are viral to “debunk”, so that they can piggy-back on that traffic and generate more advertising revenue.
Snopes was founded by a husband and wife team who are now in the middle of a contentious divorce in which founder David Mikkelsen has been accused of embezzling $98,000 of company money to spend on “himself and prostitutes”.
Snopes now has a hired team of suspect fact checkers who collaborate to debunk falsehoods that are trending on the internet.
These fact checkers reportedly have no editorial oversight and do not follow standard journalistic procedures such as interviewing the authors of articles they are trying to debunk to get all sides of the story.
Snopes doesn’t have a formal screening process for hiring fact checkers and for evaluating applicants for any potential conflicts of interest. Without such standards, it is very easy for them to be infiltrated by those who work with the industry and who have a hidden agenda.

https://foodbabe.com/do-you-trust-s...ading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/

 

[Zippyjuan]

It was all over the media it just happened to be the first report I saw and posted it. But here is more info:


https://foodbabe.com/do-you-trust-s...ading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/

Another "reliable source". Foodbabe?

 

[donnay]

[MENTION=15197]zippy[/MENTION]

 

[farreri]

Snopes is your proof. Seriously?

You should talk with all the questionable "holistic" website sources you post!!!

But if you have any more reputable source that proves the official Atkins death story correct, please post.

 

[farreri]

However, Atkins’ widow and Dr. Stuart Trager, the spokesperson for Atkins Physicians Council, both contend Robert Atkins weighed less than 200 pounds at the time of his accident, claiming “During his coma, as he deteriorated and his major organs failed, fluid retention and bloating dramatically distorted his body and left him at 258 pounds at the time of his death, a documented weight gain of over 60 pounds.”

Oh, both Atkin's wife and Atkin's own spokesman doctor for his own business empire "contend" he weighed under 200 upon admission. Two unbiased sources there!

Why do you think Mrs. Atkin's refused an autopsy? How did anyone know it was ice that caused him to slip and not something internal that made him faint, like a heart attack (which he once had), or a stoke? And how do we know there was actual ice where his body was found?

And again, would a competent hospital really allow a coma patient to gain over 60 pds of fluid?!

 

[Zippyjuan]

Oh, both Atkin's wife and Atkin's own spokesman doctor for his own business empire "contend" he weighed under 200 upon admission. Two unbiased sources there!

Why do you think Mrs. Atkin's refused an autopsy? How did anyone know it was ice that caused him to slip and not something internal that made him faint, like a heart attack (which he once had), or a stoke? And how do we know there was actual ice where his body was found?

And again, would a competent hospital really allow a coma patient to gain over 60 pds of fluid?!

Dr Atkins fell and hit his head on the icy pavement of East 55th Street, Manhattan, on April 8 last year outside his Atkins Center for Complementary Medicine. He was taken to the New York-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medical Center and died there on April 17.

Based on weather that day- April 8, 2003, there was an excellent chance for ice. http://www.nydailynews.com/archives...interrupts-city-fling-spring-article-1.665728

HOW FLAKY CAN APRIL BE?

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, April 8, 2003, 12:00 AM

Enough already! The city's biggest April snowstorm in 21 years turned back the calendar yesterday on New Yorkers who thought it was finally safe to put away their winter coats. "I thought that the worst was over - and now the blizzard is here," griped Patti Van Dyke, 32, an actress from the upper West Side. "Enough is enough!

" The spring storm - which dumped more snow than fell all last winter - sent more than 700 snowplows into the streets and sandals back into the closet. Starting just after 9 a.m., the wintry blast picked up speed as the day went on, forcing city dwellers to dig out the shovels. "I was thinking, 'We're going to have to work hard again,' " said Julio Martinez, 46, of the Bronx, as he shoveled snow outside the Majestic apartment building on W. 72nd St., where he works. "I just hope it's the last time.

" The storm piled 4 inches of snow onto an already rough winter that saw more than 45 inches fall in Central Park. All of 3 1/2 inches fell last winter. "I'm, like, dying to wear my summer clothes and sandals," said Stephanie Lopez, 27, an actress from Elmhurst, Queens. "I'm dying to get my toes out so my pedicure is worthwhile.

" The snowstorm fouled up travelers' flight schedules, with hundreds of flights canceled at Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark airports. After-school programs at city schools were canceled, and plenty of suburban schools closed for the day. The storm also forced the Yankees to postpone their home opener against the Minnesota Twins until 4:05 p.m. today. But, with cloudy skies and temperatures in the 30s, it won't exactly be a beautiful day for baseball. And winter may not be done beating up on New York just yet. Freezing rain - possibly even more snow - could come tomorrow, said Joe Tabaco, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service.

Why do you think Mrs. Atkin's refused an autopsy?

Unless a cause of death is suspicious, a autopsy is generally not necessary. https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/autopsy-decision#2

Autopsies: When Are They Done?

When someone dies and it’s not clear why, a doctor usually conducts an exam of the body. That’s called an autopsy.

If you and your family are dealing with the sudden loss of a loved one, you may find comfort in getting answers at this difficult time. But you should also know that autopsies don’t always have to be done. If you do need one, it’s usually both a medical and a legal process.

You can ask for an autopsy if you have questions about how a family member died. And sometimes doctors will ask your permission to do one if they have questions.

When Is It Optional?
A doctor might ask you to allow an autopsy if your loved one died of an unexpected illness.

They’re usually trying to learn more about what happened, either to ease your mind, to learn whether other family members might be in danger of the same thing, or to find out something that might help other doctors.

In some cases, a condition that a person had in life can only be diagnosed after they die. For instance, doctors can learn for certain that someone had Alzheimer's disease only after they examine the brain in an autopsy. It’s up to the family to decide whether to allow it.

The dead person’s next-of-kin also can ask for an autopsy if there are some concerns about why someone died. In addition to public officials, some private firms do them for a fee.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Actress Natasha Richardson (wife of Liam Neeson) also died from an epidural hematoma due to a blunt impact to the head. She was not in a coma for nine days but did die from her injuries. Was it because she had a heart condition or followed some diet? No, because she hit her head while skiing. https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/story?id=7119825&page=1

Richardson fell Monday at the Mont Tremblant ski resort in Quebec. She initially appeared fine and joked about the fall, but the ski patrol insisted she see a doctor. Richardson declined, the resort said in a statement Tuesday.

Thursday, ABC News learned more details about what happened between when Richardson fell and when she sought medical attention. At 12:43 p.m. Monday, the first call to the paramedics was made. An ambulance arrived at 1 p.m. and transported Richardson from the foot of the mountain to the infirmary by sleigh.

Richardson thought she was fine and didn't want to stay at the infirmary. At 1:10 p.m., Richardson signed hospital waiver paperwork and walked 300 yards to hotel along with her ski instructor. She was back in her room by 1:30 p.m.

At 2:59 p.m., paramedics received a second call for help. An ambulance showed up at the hotel exactly ten minutes later. Richardson was conscious but showing signs that made paramedics call the hematology department at the Centre Hospitalier Laurentien in Ste-Agathe, where the ambulance took her.

On Wednesday, a Canadian newspaper confirmed that an ambulance was dispatched to the resort right after the accident, but the paramedics were told they were not needed and left.

"They never saw the patient," Yves Coderre, the operations manager for the ambulance service, told the Globe and Mail. "So they turned around."

"When you have a head trauma you can bleed. It can deteriorate in a few hours or a few days," Coderre added. "People don't realize it can be very serious. We warn them they can die and sometimes they start to laugh. They don't take it seriously."

Richardson was later transferred to Hôpital du Sacre-Coeur in Montreal before being flown to New York City's Lenox Hill Hospital Tuesday, where her relatives rushed to her side.

On Tuesday night, Richardson's mother, actress Vanessa Redgrave, was seen entering the New York City hospital. So was Richardson's sister, Joely Richardson. Neeson also reportedly was by her side. Actress Lauren Bacall was photographed visiting the hospital Wednesday afternoon.

The Toronto Star reported that Richardson, lying heavily wrapped in blankets in an intensive-care bed, tubes covering her face, was loaded into an ambulance outside Montreal's Hôpital du Sacre-Coeur at 12:30 p.m. Tuesday, in preparation for her flight to New York.

A spokesperson for the resort noted Richardson was not wearing a helmet while skiing and didn't collide with anything when she fell. Thursday, in the wake of her death, Quebec officials said they are considering making helmets mandatory on ski slopes, according to The Associated Press.

I don't support the Atkins diet but don't see it as the reason for his death.

Also worth noting that the source who leaked part of his medical records was a vegan anti- Atkins group. https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/doctor-who-got-atkins-death-report-selling-his-own-diet-book

 

[donnay]

You should talk with all the questionable "holistic" website sources you post!!!

But if you have any more reputable source that proves the official Atkins death story correct, please post.

The Truth About How Dr. Robert Atkins Died
By Laura Dolson
Updated April 17, 2018

Long after his death in 2003, the rumor that Dr. Robert Atkins "died of his own diet" persists. Concerns over his low-carb, high-fat diet have been a topic of much debate over the years and his death did little to quell them.

The falsehoods concerning Dr. Atkins' death were primarily propagated by the vegan group the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine as well as related groups and individuals.

A vocal opponent well before his death, Dr. Dean Ornish, was among those. He wrote an opinion piece in a March 2007 edition of Newsweek that contains some untruths, which were later retracted by the magazine*.

How did Dr. Atkins die and was his diet to blame? The answer is complicated and it is best to fully examine the facts of his life and death rather than listen to the rumors.

How Long Was Atkins in His Diet?
Dr. Atkins was a cardiologist who first developed his diet in the early 1970s. He was convinced that an excess of carbohydrate was having negative effects on his patients' health and weight.

Atkins published his first book, "Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution" in 1972, and many times over the years stated that he followed his plan himself. He was very public, appearing on television often and had many photos taken. By all accounts, he was healthy and fit for most of that time.

Cardiomyopathy
In 2000, Dr. Atkins developed cardiomyopathy, an incurable heart condition which has a number of different causes.

It is thought that his cardiomyopathy was due to a viral illness. His physician stated at the time that there was no evidence that his diet contributed to the condition. His coronary arteries were reported to have been checked at that time and found to be free of blockages.

Cardiomyopathy makes it more likely that a person will have a cardiac arrest (heart stopping), which happened to Dr. Atkins two years after his diagnosis.

Again, the cardiac arrest was not thought to be diet related because his coronary arteries were clear. His cardiologist stated that (other than the cardiomyopathy), Atkins had "an extraordinarily healthy cardiovascular system."

Was Atkins Overweight?
William Leith, a writer who interviewed Dr. Atkins around the time of his cardiac arrest, stated that "he looks to be just under 6 feet tall and around 200 lbs – not skinny, not thin, but definitely not fat." A report from the doctor's company, Atkins Nutritionals, stated that he played tennis competitively and that his weight was frequently checked, and in the years before his death it remained below 195, and six feet tall.

A medical report at the time of his admission to the hospital, which was later made public by his widow, states that he was 195 pounds on admission to the hospital. This would give him a body mass index (BMI) of 26, which is just over the range considered to be "normal weight." At most, he was very slightly overweight.

Atkins' Death
On April 8, 2003, at age 72, Dr. Atkins slipped on the ice while walking to work. In the fall, he hit his head and this caused bleeding around his brain. He lost consciousness on the way to the hospital, where he spent two weeks in intensive care.

His body deteriorated rapidly and he suffered massive organ failure.

During this time, his body apparently retained an enormous amount of fluid. His weight at death was recorded at 258 pounds (again, records say that he was 195 upon entering the hospital). His death certificate states that the cause of death was "blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma."

Following this, Dr. Richard Fleming, a Nebraska doctor known to be anti-Atkins and associated with the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, requested Dr. Atkins' medical records. These should not have been released but were mistakenly sent nonetheless.

The medical examiner's report had a hand-written note that Atkins had a history of myocardial infarction (heart attack), congestive heart failure, and hypertension (written "h/o MI, CHF, HTN"). The above Committee made much of this and began the rumor that Atkins had "died of his own diet."

A year following his death, his widow released a statement taking what she called "unscrupulous individuals" to task for spreading falsehoods about her husband. Apparently, those individuals are still having a measure of success because the misconceptions remain to this day.

A Word From Verywell
The actual cause of Dr. Atkins' death, according to the reports, was the head injury that he sustained, rather than the diet program he created. However, these facts should not be used to determine whether or not the Atkins Diet is right for you. Speak with your doctor, a nutritionist, or a dietician and ask any questions you have. They can offer the best advice for your weight loss goals.

* In March 2007, Newsweek magazine published a correction stating, "An earlier version of this story contained an inaccurate account of events surrounding the death of Dr. Robert Atkins. Newsweek regrets the error."

Source:

Kleinfield NR. Just What Killed the Diet Doctor, And What Keeps the Issue Alive? New York Times. February 11, 2004.

Leith W. The Hungry Years: Confessions of a Food Addict. London, UK; Bloomsbury Publishing: 2005.

Rowland R. Atkins Diet Author Home After Cardiac Arrest. CNN. April 25, 2002.

Teicholz N. The Rivalry Between Atkins and Ornish. In: The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat, and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet. New York, NY; Simon & Schuster: 2014.

https://www.verywellfit.com/how-did-atkins-die-2241657

 

[euphemia]

Nobody is immortal. We are all going to die and there is nothing that can be done to change that. There is something about living in a disciplined way that adds depth and texture to life, but we really can't extend our lives by doing anything. People die from all different kinds of things. Maintaining a healthy weight allows more freedom to enjoy life but it's really not anyone's call to make when we die.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Another "reliable source".

Mr. Dishonest speaks.

 

[monte]

Silly disinformation. We know (and have long known) for a fact high fat/high protein/low simple carb nutrition plans work The ketogenic diet is high protein and has been prescribed for a variety of conditions for about a century now. Macro breakdown:

According to those charts the keto diet is lower protein than the SAD. I'm pretty sure high protein can keep you out of ketosis, anyway.

 

[shakey1]

70 grams is only about 2.5oz... so pretty easy to get that daily.