70 grams of protein daily cuts death in heart failure cases by 50 percent

[Anti Federalist]

Heart failure patients who eat 70 grams of protein a day boost their chances of avoiding death by almost 50 per cent

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...re-50-cent-likely-survive-eating-protein.html

Heart failure patients who eat 70 grams of protein a day boost their chances of avoiding death by almost 50 per cent
Around ten per cent of elderly people live with heart failure
Their heart weakens with age and is inefficient at getting blood around the body
To fight this, they should eat more protein as it helps build up muscle mass
Patients who have a small amount of protein in their diet are 46 more likely to die than those that eat more

By JOE PINKSTONE FOR MAILONLINE

Eating plenty of protein could be the key to fighting heart failure in the elderly.

A study of more than 2,000 Europeans looked at, and compared, a person's heart health with their protein intake.

It found that people who ate the smallest amount of protein had a 46 per cent higher chance of death than those who ate the most.

Experts believe that having a diet with a high protein content helps to build muscle mass, and can help keep the heart stronger for longer.

Protein can be found in large quantities in food such as nuts, eggs and meat.

HOW CAN A PERSON EAT 70G OF PROTEIN A DAY?

Protein is common in several different food sources and can get into the body in a variety of ways.

Chicken is a common source, with a 32g serving of protein for every 100g.

The average chicken breast weighs about 113 grams, meaning two chicken breasts will provide 72 grams of protein.

Eggs are another good source of protein to help contribute to the target of 70 grams a day.

One large boiled egg contains around 6 grams of protein.

Nuts are a great natural way of ingesting protein, with 100 grams providing around 20 grams of pure protein.

Nuts also contain a lot of natural fat, so a balanced diet is recommended.

Dairy is also a good source of protein, with 100 grams of cheese producing around 25 grams of protein.

A mixture of these foods can easily contribute to the target 70 grams of protein over the course of a day in a variety of meals.

Protein supplements also exist in various guises, to aid in easily boosting protein intake.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Highly recommend Dave Ruel's Protein Chef cookbook for this. Lots of tasty and nutritious ways to eat these foods that aren't bland and boring. <3

 

[angelatc]

Highly recommend Dave Ruel's Protein Chef cookbook for this. Lots of tasty and nutritious ways to eat these foods that aren't bland and boring. <3

But that requires cooking. I'd rather eat peanut butter.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

But that requires cooking. I'd rather eat peanut butter.

LOL Yeah, but you can make big batches and warm stuff up later during the week. I get bored of PB, protein powder, and chicken myself.

 

[Suzanimal]

The average chicken breast weighs about 113 grams, meaning two chicken breasts will provide 72 grams of protein.

Not my experience with store bought chicken. Most of those breasts weigh around twice as much.

 

[specsaregood]

Not my experience with store bought chicken. Most of those breasts weigh around twice as much.

Well that's after it stuffed full of water.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Not my experience with store bought chicken. Most of those breasts weigh around twice as much.

Chicken breasts today look like turkey breasts from 20 years ago. The ones in the stores around here are huge.

28 grams is one ounce. If you are consuming more protein, you are probably consuming less fat and sugar (assuming you are consuming the same amounts). This isn't a huge amount of protein- the chicken breast example would only be a quarter pound of meat a day. It does not say that higher amounts offered more benefit.

https://www.webmd.com/heart/news/20...angerous-for-those-at-risk-of-heart-disease#1

This Diet May Be Dangerous With Heart Disease Risk

Weight gain, early death noted in study of older adults

A high-protein diet may backfire for people at risk for heart disease -- increasing the likelihood of weight gain and early death, a new study suggests.

Replacing carbohydrates and fats with protein is touted as a quick way to weight loss. But this long-term Spanish study of older adults found these high-protein diets -- think Atkins and South Beach, for example -- may be harmful.

When protein replaced carbohydrates, for instance, the eating plan was linked to a 90 percent greater risk of gaining more than 10 percent of body weight. It was also linked to a 59 percent higher risk of death from any cause, the researchers found.

When protein replaced fat, risk of death rose 66 percent, the researchers said.

"These results do not support the generalized use of high-protein diets as a good strategy for losing weight," said lead researcher Monica Bullo, of Pere Virgili Health Research Institute in Reus.

"Long-term efficacy and safety of these diets deserve more attention," she said.

However, the study only found an association between dietary protein, weight gain and death rates, not a cause-and-effect link.

Bullo isn't sure why high-protein diets may promote weight gain. But their connection to early death is a little clearer, she said, noting that high protein intake is related to kidney disease, changes in sugar and insulin metabolism, and changes in blood fat.


The researchers analyzed data from a government-funded trial of more than 7,000 men and women. Participants, all aged 55 and over without heart disease, filled out food questionnaires that assessed protein consumption for roughly five years. All had either type 2 diabetes or three or more of these risk factors: smoking, high blood pressure, poor cholesterol levels, overweight or obesity, or a family history of premature heart disease.

The study results were scheduled for presentation Friday at the European Congress on Obesity in Prague, Czech Republic. Research presented at meetings is usually considered preliminary until published in a peer-reviewed medical journal.

More at link.

 

[donnay]

Well that's after it stuffed full of Chlorinated water.

FIFY

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Chicken breasts today look like turkey breasts from 20 years ago. The ones in the stores around here are huge.

28 grams is one ounce. If you are consuming more protein, you are probably consuming less fat and sugar (assuming you are consuming the same amounts). This isn't a huge amount of protein- the chicken breast example would only be a quarter pound of meat a day. It does not say that higher amounts offered more benefit.

https://www.webmd.com/heart/news/20...angerous-for-those-at-risk-of-heart-disease#1



More at link.

Silly disinformation. We know (and have long known) for a fact high fat/high protein/low simple carb nutrition plans work The ketogenic diet is high protein and has been prescribed for a variety of conditions for about a century now. Macro breakdown:

 

[Zippyjuan]

Large amounts of protein put a strain on your kidneys and liver. You need a variety of foods. Atkins is only high fat in the first stage- then you are supposed to start replacing it with complex carbs like nuts, fruits, and vegetables- you aren't supposed to stay at the high fat/ high protein stage.

The Atkins diet is split into 4 different phases:

Phase 1 (induction): Under 20 grams of carbs per day for 2 weeks. Eat high-fat, high-protein, with low-carb vegetables like leafy greens. This kick-starts the weight loss.

Phase 2 (balancing): Slowly add more nuts, low-carb vegetables and small amounts of fruit back to your diet.

Phase 3 (fine-tuning): When you are very close to your goal weight, add more carbs to your diet until weight loss slows down.

Phase 4 (maintenance): Here you can eat as many healthy carbs as your body can tolerate without regaining weight.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/atkins-diet-101#section10

After Induction Is Over, You Can Slowly Add Back Healthier Carbs

Despite what you may have heard, the Atkins diet is actually quite flexible.

It is only during the 2-week induction phase that you need to minimize your intake of healthier carb sources.

After induction is over, you can slowly add back healthier carbs such as higher carb vegetables, fruits, berries, potatoes, legumes and healthier grains like oats and rice.

 

[farreri]

Heart failure patients who eat 70 grams of protein a day boost their chances of avoiding death by almost 50 per cent

"Elderly patients with heart failure." You should probably have added that to your title so as to not be misleading about who the article was talking about.

A study of more than 2,000 Europeans looked at, and compared, a person's heart health with their protein intake.

It found that people who ate the smallest amount of protein had a 46 per cent higher chance of death than those who ate the most.

How small? Pretty important to know as elderly people have a higher tendency of not getting enough calories which automatically means they wouldn't be getting enough protein as well as not enough carbs & fats, all important for heart health.

Protein can be found in large quantities in food such as nuts, eggs and meat.

Why did you bold eggs and meats, but not nuts as the article mentioned? Biased much?

Any article to make you feel better about your bad dietary habits, huh?

 

[farreri]

Atkins

He keeled over from his arteries getting clogged, but his wife didn't want the truth to be known, so she refused an autopsy!

 

[Zippyjuan]

He keeled over from his arteries getting clogged, but his wife didn't want the truth to be known, so she refused an autopsy!

https://www.verywellfit.com/how-did-atkins-die-2241657

On April 8, 2003, at age 72, Dr. Atkins slipped on the ice while walking to work. In the fall, he hit his head and this caused bleeding around his brain. He lost consciousness on the way to the hospital, where he spent two weeks in intensive care.

His body deteriorated rapidly and he suffered massive organ failure.

During this time, his body apparently retained an enormous amount of fluid. His weight at death was recorded at 258 pounds (again, records say that he was 195 upon entering the hospital). His death certificate states that the cause of death was "blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma."

 

[heavenlyboy34]

He keeled over from his arteries getting clogged, but his wife didn't want the truth to be known, so she refused an autopsy!

He died from a head injury, liar.

 

[farreri]

FACT CHECK: Dr. Robert Atkins' Death - snopes.com
Claim: Dr. Robert Atkins, proponent of the low-carbohydrate diet, died of a heart attack.
Status: Undetermined.

Famed nutritionist and author Dr. Robert Atkins died on 17 April 2003 at the age of 72 after sustaining head injuries in a fall outside his New York clinic. But did more underlie his demise than merely a slippery walkway?

As popular as the diet has proved to be with the masses, critics claim it raises the risk of heart disease and kidney stones. It is for this reason speculation about the cause of Dr. Atkins’ death is such a hot topic.

It is known Robert Atkins did indeed weather a heart attack during his lifetime. In April 2002, the diet guru issued a statement saying he was recovering from cardiac arrest related to a heart infection he had suffered from “for a few years.” He said it was “in no way related to diet.”

However, revelations in February 2004 from the city medical examiner’s report let slip the information that Atkins had suffered a heart attack, congestive heart failure, and hypertension, before his death. The report was given to the Journal by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group that advocates vegetarianism. Because the medical examiner’s office is claiming this information was circulated in error, it may not be possible at this time to determine if what was in that report referred to events that immediately preceded (and therefore might have caused) the doctor’s death, or if they were in reference to damage done over the course of a lifetime. (The report had been sent to a doctor in Nebraska who requested it. It was later discovered the person it was sent to was not “the treating physician” and so should not have had access to the report.) At present, the medical examiner’s office will only say Atkins died of a head injury from the fall. “I can’t comment on people’s previous conditions. It’s against the law,” said spokeswoman Ellen Borakove.

It needs be kept in mind that even if the medical examiner’s office does become more forthcoming, it still may not be able to answer the question of whether a heart attack brought about the demise of Dr. Atkins. An autopsy was not performed on him because of family objections to the procedure. Consequently, the medical examiner conducted only an external exam and a review of Atkins’ hospital records.

The state of Robert Atkins’ health is open to debate. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s body-mass index calculator, at 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/death-of-a-diet-doctor/
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[Zippyjuan]

The state of Robert Atkins’ health is open to debate. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s body-mass index calculator, at 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese.

He was only 195 when he was checked into the hospital after his fall- that is not obese but normal. He gained about 60 pounds of fluids while he was in a coma (which was at your link but conveniently left off). That is a BMI of 26.

However, Atkins’ widow and Dr. Stuart Trager, the spokesperson for Atkins Physicians Council, both contend Robert Atkins weighed less than 200 pounds at the time of his accident, claiming “During his coma, as he deteriorated and his major organs failed, fluid retention and bloating dramatically distorted his body and left him at 258 pounds at the time of his death, a documented weight gain of over 60 pounds.”

As for the reported heart attack and hypertension, the article also noted:

Because the medical examiner’s office is claiming this information was circulated in error, it may not be possible at this time to determine if what was in that report referred to events that immediately preceded (and therefore might have caused) the doctor’s death, or if they were in reference to damage done over the course of a lifetime.

It is known Robert Atkins did indeed weather a heart attack during his lifetime.

That heart attack was believed to have been caused by a virus- his arteries were reportedly clear at the time.


https://www.verywellfit.com/how-did-atkins-die-2241657

Cardiomyopathy

In 2000, Dr. Atkins developed cardiomyopathy, an incurable heart condition which has a number of different causes.

It is thought that his cardiomyopathy was due to a viral illness. His physician stated at the time that there was no evidence that his diet contributed to the condition. His coronary arteries were reported to have been checked at that time and found to be free of blockages.

Cardiomyopathy makes it more likely that a person will have a cardiac arrest (heart stopping), which happened to Dr. Atkins two years after his diagnosis.

Again, the cardiac arrest was not thought to be diet related because his coronary arteries were clear. His cardiologist stated that (other than the cardiomyopathy), Atkins had "an extraordinarily healthy cardiovascular system."

 

[farreri]

He was only 195 when he was checked into the hospital after his fall- that is not obese but normal. He gained about 60 pounds of fluids while he was in a coma (which was at your link but conveniently left off). That is a BMI of 26.

Yeah, about that:

Yet according to a copy of his medical records, as turned over to USA Today by the diet guru’s widow, Atkins weighed 195 pounds upon admission to the hospital 8 April 2003 following his fall.

So did the doctors weigh him upon his admission to the hospital, or did the doctors just ask Mrs. Atkins how much he weighs?

And would a competent hospital really allow a coma patient to gain over 60 pds of fluid?!

 

[donnay]

FACT CHECK: Dr. Robert Atkins' Death - snopes.com
Claim: Dr. Robert Atkins, proponent of the low-carbohydrate diet, died of a heart attack.
Status: Undetermined.

Famed nutritionist and author Dr. Robert Atkins died on 17 April 2003 at the age of 72 after sustaining head injuries in a fall outside his New York clinic. But did more underlie his demise than merely a slippery walkway?

As popular as the diet has proved to be with the masses, critics claim it raises the risk of heart disease and kidney stones. It is for this reason speculation about the cause of Dr. Atkins’ death is such a hot topic.

It is known Robert Atkins did indeed weather a heart attack during his lifetime. In April 2002, the diet guru issued a statement saying he was recovering from cardiac arrest related to a heart infection he had suffered from “for a few years.” He said it was “in no way related to diet.”

However, revelations in February 2004 from the city medical examiner’s report let slip the information that Atkins had suffered a heart attack, congestive heart failure, and hypertension, before his death. The report was given to the Journal by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group that advocates vegetarianism. Because the medical examiner’s office is claiming this information was circulated in error, it may not be possible at this time to determine if what was in that report referred to events that immediately preceded (and therefore might have caused) the doctor’s death, or if they were in reference to damage done over the course of a lifetime. (The report had been sent to a doctor in Nebraska who requested it. It was later discovered the person it was sent to was not “the treating physician” and so should not have had access to the report.) At present, the medical examiner’s office will only say Atkins died of a head injury from the fall. “I can’t comment on people’s previous conditions. It’s against the law,” said spokeswoman Ellen Borakove.

It needs be kept in mind that even if the medical examiner’s office does become more forthcoming, it still may not be able to answer the question of whether a heart attack brought about the demise of Dr. Atkins. An autopsy was not performed on him because of family objections to the procedure. Consequently, the medical examiner conducted only an external exam and a review of Atkins’ hospital records.

The state of Robert Atkins’ health is open to debate. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s body-mass index calculator, at 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/death-of-a-diet-doctor/
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Snopes is your proof. Seriously?

'Fact checking' website Snopes on verge of collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn't told its readers THOSE facts)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ounder-accused-fraud-lying.html#ixzz5GpPYZVOJ

 

[Zippyjuan]

Yeah, about that:


So did the doctors weigh him upon his admission to the hospital, or did the doctors just ask Mrs. Atkins how much he weighs?

And would a competent hospital really allow a coma patient to gain over 60 pds of fluid?!

Liver and/ or kidney failure can lead to large amounts of fluid buildup in the body.

However, Atkins’ widow and Dr. Stuart Trager, the spokesperson for Atkins Physicians Council, both contend Robert Atkins weighed less than 200 pounds at the time of his accident, claiming “During his coma, as he deteriorated and his major organs failed, fluid retention and bloating dramatically distorted his body and left him at 258 pounds at the time of his death, a documented weight gain of over 60 pounds.”

https://www.medicinenet.com/ascites/article.htm#what_causes_ascites

Ascites is the accumulation of fluid (usually serous fluid which is a pale yellow and clear fluid) that accumulates in the abdominal (peritoneal) cavity. The abdominal cavity is located below the chest cavity, separated from it by the diaphragm. Ascitic fluid can have many sources such as liver disease, cancers, congestive heart failure, or kidney failure.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Snopes is your proof. Seriously?

'Fact checking' website Snopes on verge of collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn't told its readers THOSE facts)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ounder-accused-fraud-lying.html#ixzz5GpPYZVOJ

LOL at using Daily Fail or Mail to criticize a source as unreliable!