7.62x39... OMG!!!

[Cowlesy]

My own flesh and blood relative who is an expert (it has been his business for 19 years) says running steel casing ammunition is bad.

Firing off a couple is okay, but sustained fire or any sort of rapid succession is bad.

I think part of it is a lot of that stuff is polymer coated, so it corrodes, and if you heat up a semi-auto too much you better have some solvent to clean the gunk out when you're done.

 

[JohnMeridith]

Main Entry:dis*in*for*ma*tion
Pronunciation:-*in-f*r-*m*-sh*n
Function:noun

: false information deliberately and often covertly spread


care to explain how this is disinformation??? I was TOLD this by a gun dealer at a gun show!

because its bullshit

 

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[Deborah K]

You need a dictionary then ,and some class. Because even if I'm wrong, which I know I am not, I'm NOT deliberately spreading false information. Do you sell steel rounds or something? Why the hostility? I am aware there are differing schools of thought on this. Share yours.

 

[ihsv]

I have put thousands upon thousands of steal-cased rounds through both my SKS and AK. Aside from the occasional faulty round, and a few issues with buildup in my SKS, I've not experienced any problems.

It may be bad to put steal-cased rounds through finicky weapons like the AR, but not so with the AK.

Is brass better in the long run? No doubt. It is a softer metal. However, if you're dealing with an AK, which was designed to use steal-cased ammo, I wouldn't worry about it. It may be quite different when you're talking about the AR platform, where you have to worry about ammo selection all the time anyway.

If you're using an AK or an SKS, buy the steal cased ammo and fire away.

If you're using a mini-30, or an AR with a 7.62x39 upper, you have to be much more selective in your ammo choices.

 

[JohnMeridith]

You need a dictionary then ,and some class. Because even if I'm wrong, which I know I am not, I'm NOT deliberately spreading false information. Do you sell steel rounds or something? Why the hostility? I am aware there are differing schools of thought on this. Share yours.

If you make such a bold statement not to purchase steel cased ammo and you aren't sure why, you are deliberately spreading bad info.


I'm not hostile toward you ms k, I like every one of your posts that i've read. Sorry if I came off that way and I'll overlook the class comment. But AKs eat steel cased ammo, thats what its out there for. I've lost count of how many rounds my used wasr has through it.


The brass cased 7.62 is for mini 30's for the most part.

 

[Chosen]

Harder on your weapon, not as soft as brass. Some ranges won't allow them, and I don't know if this is true but I heard that some manufacturers won't honor warranty if used. They are much dirtier than brass although they're much cheaper. Just buy brass and save your shells and sell them to make up for some of the difference.

The reason ranges won't allow them is because the casings mix in with the brass and they have to pick them out. Many ranges sell the brass by the pound. It is really an issue similar to green glass and recycling. At least this is the explanation I was given at a range I frequent.

From what reloaders have told me is that reloading steel can be done but it isn't worth it, it's irritating to say the least. You can reload the berdan primed ones apprently, but it isn't so much fun...
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/berdanreloading/index.asp

Aluminum cased ammo can be a pain tho'.

 

[Toureg89]

Harder on your weapon, not as soft as brass. Some ranges won't allow them, and I don't know if this is true but I heard that some manufacturers won't honor warranty if used. They are much dirtier than brass although they're much cheaper. Just buy brass and save your shells and sell them to make up for some of the difference.

its an AK, you dont have to baby it.

never heard of any ranges have policies against steel cased ammo being used.

dont have any warrantly on my rifle, so....

and like i said before, i dont worry about cleaning my rifle except for external rust due to Fl. humidity. could care less about cleaning after firing...

 

[ihsv]

I was TOLD this by a gun dealer at a gun show!

No offense, but I wouldn't take his word on that. A gun dealer is there to sell guns (and ammo), and unless you know them to be honest and above board, always take what they say at face value.

 

[B964]

I have put thousands upon thousands of steal-cased rounds through both my SKS and AK. Aside from the occasional faulty round, and a few issues with buildup in my SKS, I've not experienced any problems.

It may be bad to put steal-cased rounds through finicky weapons like the AR, but not so with the AK.

Is brass better in the long run? No doubt. It is a softer metal. However, if you're dealing with an AK, which was designed to use steal-cased ammo, I wouldn't worry about it. It may be quite different when you're talking about the AR platform, where you have to worry about ammo selection all the time anyway.

If you're using an AK or an SKS, buy the steal cased ammo and fire away.

If you're using a mini-30, or an AR with a 7.62x39 upper, you have to be much more selective in your ammo choices.

Yep. Steel is okay dokay for rifles built strong, like a Russian bear.

 

[Suzu]

At ClassicArms.us about 2/3 of the way down the main page they show a Russian 7.62X54R ammo. Well, they don't answer questions by email, so I'll ask here: Does anyone happen to know or can you tell by the picture whether it's corrosive or not?

 

[Chosen]

At ClassicArms.us about 2/3 of the way down the main page they show a Russian 7.62X54R ammo. Well, they don't answer questions by email, so I'll ask here: Does anyone happen to know or can you tell by the picture whether it's corrosive or not?

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo.htm

http://mosinnagant.net/i3tro4.asp

 

[Madcat455]

At ClassicArms.us about 2/3 of the way down the main page they show a Russian 7.62X54R ammo. Well, they don't answer questions by email, so I'll ask here: Does anyone happen to know or can you tell by the picture whether it's corrosive or not?

Lets see.. 80's production.. looks Milsurp.. so I'd have to say YES to it being at leaste mildly corrosive(but I'm just guessing). I'll let you know when I order some later today I"m gonna get the M91 with scope from them too.


Not that it's a big deal.. just rinse the barrel down with Windex or water at the range.. and clean it once you're home.

I clean mine after every range trip, so I didn't mind the corrosive Yugo x39 I got earlier.

 

[Madcat455]

At ClassicArms.us about 2/3 of the way down the main page they show a Russian 7.62X54R ammo. Well, they don't answer questions by email, so I'll ask here: Does anyone happen to know or can you tell by the picture whether it's corrosive or not?

It is corrosive.. FWIW. Pretty much ALL of it is, according to my dealer..LOL.

 

[Acala]

corrosive

Corrosive ammo is easy to deal with in a bolt action. You can run a windex patch through it at the range like a prior poster said. I would recommend that if your climate is humid. If the weather is dry, you can wait until you get home, get a funnel and pour a quart of boiling water down the barrel from the breach. It strips the corrosive salts AND gets the barrel good and hot so the remaining moisture is evaporated almost instantly. Clean and dry. Of course you still have the metal fouling and maybe some powder residue to deal with . . .

Corrosive ammo is a much bigger problem with gas operated arms. You have to clean out the whole gas system and you usually can't just pour boiling water through it.

 

[youngbuck]

f**k CTD, their price gouging is making me want to not buy anything from them.