5 states will have 'social media privacy law' or 'facebook password law'

[Nirvikalpa]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

Next we'll here the "If employers aren't allowed to demand sexual favors from employees they don't have a right to commerce."

Oh, they already do.

yes, exactly. Why shouldn't employers be allowed to demand sexual favors ? What can they "threaten" them with? If your employer has something that belongs to you, that's not their bargaining chip, but if what they have is "their property", why can't they use it "against you"?

SMFH.

 

[Acala]

So we should just allow employers to keep demanding more and more ridiculous, privacy-invading measures? Should we allow it to keep happening to the point where all businesses are doing it, and in order to gain employment, you HAVE to give up your privacy? No sane person is going to say "no" and resort to homelessness or starvation; everyone needs to fucking eat. No one is going to start robbing banks because they would rather not face prison.

Those looking for employment will bite the bullet and give up their privacy for the almighty dollar. Once people start giving up their privacy to employers, others will follow and a growing number of people looking for work will just accept it and give in. A lot of people here like to pretend we're living in a pure free market right now. The problem isn't going to self-correct.

This reminds me of the argument where you say something you dislike about the way our country is being run , and some asshat will say, "WELL, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN MOVE." So when all employers start demanding we give up our privacy, what are you going to say? "HEY MAN, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN DON'T WORK. GO DUMPSTER DIVE SOMEWHERE, MARXIST!"

This is the same specious argument that is made to justify EVERY SINGLE BIT of socialist legislation in this country. It is based on the false assumption that people are too stupid or predatory to be allowed to manage their own affairs and need the magicaly unstupid unpredatory hand of government to manage their lives for them.

It does not stand up to reason and it has been a failure in practice.

 

[Kregisen]

When minimum wage laws were passed there wasn't a rash of employers demanding access to private data so your argument has no merit. In the future employers may demand brain scans of people. I'm sure you'll be okay with that too. In some states in feudal Asia, some employers would tell their servants "If you consent to letting me test my sword by killing you I'll will take care of your family for the rest of their lives." I guess that's okay too. You know what? This isn't "libertarian central". Everyone isn't required to be a libertarian or think exactly like you. It's times like these that I proudly say I'm not a libertarian.

Employers can demand whatever the hell they want. They do NOT have to hire you or give you whatever employment offer you want. They do not have to offer you whatever salary you want. They do not have to give you whatever location you want, or whatever position you want. They can offer you whatever they hell they want, and if you agree to it, you sign the contract and you get hired.

The argument saying employers should not be able to offer low privacy benefits is no different than offering low economic benefits (such as salary). This is the exact same argument.

Everyone isn't required to be a libertarian or think exactly like you.

I never said anyone had to be....stop putting words into my mouth. I said people who believe what you just said are not libertarians. If you already admit you aren't, then there's no foul. But just like 95% of Republicans shouldn't be calling themselves small-government conservatives, people who are trying to make it illegal for an employer to hire an employee who is willing to show the employer their facebook profile, are nothing but big-government liberals on this issue. Case closed.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It would appear so.

So I think there is nothing really to bother with anymore.

You have the "left" stripping rights through "democracy" and the "right" stripping rights through "corporatocracy".

So, I guess the only choice a free person has left is which orifice to take your raping in...

So we should just allow employers to keep demanding more and more ridiculous, privacy-invading measures? Should we allow it to keep happening to the point where all businesses are doing it, and in order to gain employment, you HAVE to give up your privacy? No sane person is going to say "no" and resort to homelessness or starvation; everyone needs to fucking eat. No one is going to start robbing banks because they would rather not face prison.

Those looking for employment will bite the bullet and give up their privacy for the almighty dollar. Once people start giving up their privacy to employers, others will follow and a growing number of people looking for work will just accept it and give in. A lot of people here like to pretend we're living in a pure free market right now. The problem isn't going to self-correct.

This reminds me of the argument where you say something you dislike about the way our country is being run , and some asshat will say, "WELL, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN MOVE." So when all employers start demanding we give up our privacy, what are you going to say? "HEY MAN, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN DON'T WORK. GO DUMPSTER DIVE SOMEWHERE, MARXIST!"

 

[Anti Federalist]

Employers can demand whatever the hell they want. They do NOT have to hire you or give you whatever employment offer you want. They do not have to offer you whatever salary you want. They do not have to give you whatever location you want, or whatever position you want. They can offer you whatever they hell they want, and if you agree to it, you sign the contract and you get hired.

No, that is true.

But they can be told to stay the fuck out of my private affairs and effects.

Tough shit for them.

 

[Dr.3D]

It would appear so.

So I think there is nothing really to bother with anymore.

You have the "left" stripping rights through "democracy" and the "right" stripping rights through "corporatocracy".

So, I guess the only choice a free person has left is which orifice to take your raping in...

Anybody still selling chastity belts?

 

[Anti Federalist]

This is the same specious argument that is made to justify EVERY SINGLE BIT of socialist legislation in this country. It is based on the false assumption that people are too stupid or predatory to be allowed to manage their own affairs and need the magicaly unstupid unpredatory hand of government to manage their lives for them.

It does not stand up to reason and it has been a failure in practice.

Yes, it has failed because the prime directive has not been followed: government exists only to protect individual rights.

 

[Acala]

Yes, it has failed because the prime directive has not been followed: government exists only to protect individual rights.

Yup. And that includes the right to make your own rules on your own property. And does NOT include the right to make other people accept you on your terms on THEIR property.

 

[emazur]

This is about the federal government, not states, but is relevant to the topic:
U.S. employees set to be forced to give bosses their Facebook PASSWORDS

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An attempt to ban US bosses from asking employees to hand over their Facebook login details has been blocked by Congress.

A last minute alteration to the controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) that would have prevented employers demanding that prospective employees disclose social media passwords as a condition of employment was voted down in the house of representatives.

The proposal, put forward by Democrat Ed Perlmutter was defeated by a 224-189 majority, according to the Huffington Post.

Handing over passwords could legally be a condition of acquiring or keeping a job, said WebProNews

I haven't checked to see who voted what on this provision but it would interesting to see how guys like Amash voted