30,000 soldiers Afghan surge will be rerouted to Haiti?

[Liberty Star]

Even if 100K or more people have been killed in tragic Haiti quake, this will be very significant move if what heard through grapevine is true. Currently US Coast guard from Miami and other military is helping with rescue in Haiti, some are asking Obama to appoint a military general to oversee Haiti mission and reroute planned 30K military Afghan surge to Haiti immediately.

Not confirmed yet but if Obama mobilized 30K troops planned for Afghanistan to head to Haiti instead, would you support it?

 

[LittleLightShining]

Yes.

 

[Mini-Me]

Can't we just keep them home?

However, if the choices are between occupying Afghanistan and doing humanitarian [?] work in Haiti, it's a tough call. On one hand, it would certainly be more productive and moral of the military to build things and such in Haiti than kill people and occupy Afghanistan. However, US soldiers in Haiti will likely harm more than help the situation, and they'd likely be used to impose a police state to "keep the peace"...and it wouldn't be good to give yet another country another reason to hate us. In addition, after going to Haiti, are we going to still send 30,000 to Afghanistan anyway? In that case, it would also require yet more government extortion of taxpayers to tack on a supposed humanitarian mission in front of that.

It's like that "youmustchoose.com" website, where you're given two bad options, and you're not allowed to pick "neither."

 

[Dieseler]

They really don't need a great number of men trained to kill and occupy, sure they will need some security for what they really need though which is humanitarian aide and workers trained in setting up refugee camps, infrastructure repair and people to distribute charitable contributions.

If Obama were to reroute 30k men with a military General I would assume they were taking advantage of Haiti's horrid situation and were in the process of nation building as opposed to what they should be doing.

 

[Liberty Star]

This is only what is in news so far:

January 13, 2010

U.S. Military May Deploy Troops in Haiti

(AP/Matt Marek/American Red Cross) Officials are "very seriously looking at" sending U.S. troops into Haiti for security purposes, U.S. Southern Command General Douglas Fraser told reporters Wednesday.

Obama promises all-out relief effort in Haiti

AP – Obama calls reports from Haiti 'Truly heart-Wrenching'

By MATTHEW LEE and JULIE PACE, Associated Press Writers Matthew Lee And Julie Pace, Associated Press Writers – 3 mins ago

WASHINGTON – U.S. officials laid out a massive military response to the Haiti earthquake Wednesday, saying that ships, helicopters, transport planes and a 2,000-member Marine unit were either on the way or likely to begin moving soon.

A State Department official said the U.S. was checking into reports of at least three possible deaths of Americans in Haiti. Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley added that only 100 of the estimated 45,000 Americans living in Haiti had been able to communicate with U.S. officials and verify they were safe and sound.

Gen. Douglas Fraser, head of U.S. Southern Command, said one of the U.S. Navy's large amphibious ships was likely to head to Haiti with a Marine expeditionary unit aboard. Fraser said other U.S. military forces were on alert, including a brigade, which includes about 3,500 troops.

 

[LittleLightShining]

I would rather see my neighbors who are in the VT National Guard go to Haiti than Afghanistan.

 

[Zippyjuan]

The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson and its group is on its way from being re-fueled and refurbished in Norfolk on its way to its base in San Diego. It is being diverted to Haiti to help out there. If the Port Au Prince Airport is damaged, supples can be landed on its deck and shipped to land. They stopped in Florida to pick up emergency supplies for Haiti.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Milita...-carrier-to-help-with-Haiti-earthquake-damage

 

[Liberty Star]

Supply ships will help, however there is very large number of people still trapped in collapsed structures for which Haiti has neirher rescue personnel nor needed gear. That's what boots on the ground are being contemplated for I think.

 

[jclay2]

I can't believe some of you guys are even talking about this! The answer is no. We don't need any more foreign interventions. I don't care what their intentions are, it never bodes well for us or the people of the countries we "help". Lets stop the madness and not even give the statist the concession of considering any foreign interventions.

 

[Zippyjuan]

It is not a millitary intervention- it is a humanitarian effort. If your town and home were devistated by a large earthquake you would probably be grateful for the help.

 

[Danke]

If the Port Au Prince Airport is damaged, supples can be landed on its deck and shipped to land.

lol

 

[polomertz]

It is not a millitary intervention- it is a humanitarian effort. If your town and home were devistated by a large earthquake you would probably be grateful for the help.

True, unless they brought their guns.

 

[Liberty Star]

True, unless they brought their guns.

When military went on rescue mission when Katrina hit, they probably did not bring guns. Any humanitarian mission would be same way.

 

[Johnnybags]

Best time to take the sh%thole over

put in puppets all over and then hand the slave labor to corporate America. Er, secure it I mean. Our soldiers will love Cite Soleil.

 

[stilltrying]

Did Haiti even ask for 30,000 American troops? Or are we the empire who is telling them they are getting 30,000 troops? This is a sovereign country right? Why not 30,000 State Dept. employees? Oh I see get our boys and girls in the UN Peacekeeping mind, the global force for good, eh. Keeping the peace with guns? You dont do what I say you are breaking the peace therefore I may and can use my weapon against you.

You are a sovereign citizen of Haiti but since I am here under the humanitarian peacekeeping mission you must do as I says the general to the enlistees to the citizens.

 

[Liberty Star]

American-Haitians with families there are also lobbying for rescue effort, and this may be a factor too:

A State Department official said the U.S. was checking into reports of at least three possible deaths of Americans in Haiti. Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley added that only 100 of the estimated 45,000 Americans living in Haiti had been able to communicate with U.S. officials and verify they were safe and sound.

 

[pcosmar]

Short Term Memory Loss.

NO way.
Do you all forget Somalia? (humanitarian aid)??
Do you remember Jean-Bertrand Aristide? (puppet government)?

The best thing to do with Haiti is stay far away from it.

 

[BenIsForRon]

Whatever, I know bad things can come from it, but America has so much other shit on its plate, I don't think we're going to be doing anything but serious short term relief there.

So I will support this move, as long as we stay out of the law enforcement role.

 

[Mini-Me]

Whatever, I know bad things can come from it, but America has so much other shit on its plate, I don't think we're going to be doing anything but serious short term relief there.

So I will support this move, as long as we stay out of the law enforcement role.

Actually, I think that's exactly why we're going there...for "security."

 

[Kylie]

put in puppets all over and then hand the slave labor to corporate America. Er, secure it I mean. Our soldiers will love Cite Soleil.

Jesus.

What a shithole. Even before the earthquake. This is why the liberals still have backing. Because of places and little girls who look like this. It's pitiful to see that little one living that kind of life.

But then I think, who the hell am I to think I can make her life better by giving her more stuff? Decent stuff?

What a conundrum.