3 Reasons the Rand Paul Campaign Failed

I don't know what really happened but I feel very let down by the liberty movement. Trying to analyze it just makes me feel worse. Ron brought me out of my political cave and gave me some hope. I feel like I have been made a fool by believing in freedom.
 
I don't know what really happened but I feel very let down by the liberty movement. Trying to analyze it just makes me feel worse. Ron brought me out of my political cave and gave me some hope. I feel like I have been made a fool by believing in freedom.

That's why these same people are in here constantly driving in wedges. They want you to feel helpless so they can sell you on their own personal Path to Liberty. Now that a few weeks have passed and peopel don't pay as much attention, they are trying to rewrite the narrative to suit their own goals.
 
That's why these same people are in here constantly driving in wedges. They want you to feel helpless so they can sell you on their own personal Path to Liberty. Now that a few weeks have passed and peopel don't pay as much attention, they are trying to rewrite the narrative to suit their own goals.

I am not too worried about it. If no other place in my mind, heart and spirit I am free and know what liberty is. I was really hoping it would become a physical reality for all.

Also I know that most people don't want liberty they are afraid of it.
 
Inside Jeb Bush's $150 Million Failure

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/jeb-bush-dropping-out-set-up-to-fail-213662

Basically could be reading Rands obituary:

Most critically, the playbook, people who have read it tell POLITICO, contained nothing about Donald Trump, who would spend the next excruciating year turning Bush into his personal patrician piñata.
“The rules all changed this year. It was all about taking on the establishment,” said a Republican operative close to the Bush family. “When you’re the son and brother of former presidents, the grandson of a U.S. senator, how do you run in a year like this? It is just a year of personality, not message. All of a sudden, there was no path for him. They just kept falling back on his record as governor, which is all he has—and no one gives a shit.”
 
I am not too worried about it. If no other place in my mind, heart and spirit I am free and know what liberty is. I was really hoping it would become a physical reality for all.

Also I know that most people don't want liberty they are afraid of it.

That's all you need to keep in mind.

Until the tiny minority that holds freedom, at all levels, to be the one and only true cause worth fighting for and is willing to drag the rest of Boobus along, kicking and screaming whether they want to or or not, we're pretty much doomed to the same old same old.

In the meantime, carve out as much of a free life as you can in an unfree world.

Reject the system and its institutions of control.

Reject the technological containment/convenience grid.

Reject the system's mind numbing conformity to the political winds of the day.

Be your own person.
 
IMHO, 1 and 3 are the kind of minor things that insiders obsess over. Minor tweeks.

Number 2 is right on the head. It was the biggest factor, and it was completely out of the control of Rand and his campaign. A loudmouthed billionaire celebrity entering the race is uncontrollable. ISIS attacks in Paris were another uncontrollable event.

The real reason: the vast majority neither understand, nor want freedom. Many of those who have even a vague notion of it flee, hands flailing wildly with a look of complete terror in their eyes, screaming "ANARCHY... ANARCHY... RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!" They don't want the costs in terms of risk and responsibility. They want all the benefits, but none of the burdens. Therefore, Rand Paul becomes very uninteresting for them - hateful, even.
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The rest simply have not the faintest clue as to what freedom actually is. They believe that they are free, perceiving their prison walls as something other than that.

For those who want actual freedom, I suggest you start praying for a meteor strike, freedom-friendly aliens to land on the South Lawn, or Jesus to hurry his ass up and get the hell back here, if he is coming at all, and straighten this shit right out, because I am sorry to say that it will not likely to be forthcoming by other means. The vast majority of humanity is against you to the point of being quite willing to kill you themselves if necessary, but far more amenable to having someone else do it for them.

I wish I had better news, and I do advocate for positive action no matter how futile. Crazy things happen and you never know with even this situation. Just don't expect the good outcome because so far as I can see, even that will be sorrow-laden because I see no way to achieve proper freedom without killing at least 3 billion human beings, worldwide. But with any luck, something I didn't see will make itself apparent - a miracle of sorts, and the race of men will claw its way back to something of decent life. Whatever the final outcome, it stands to be quite the adventure. :)
 
too bad both party's don't adapt to having a 'let the chips fall where they may' philosophy...
 
There were many reasons on why things didn't go as well as we would have liked.

Rand is an introvert, his campaign needed to accept this and adjust away from the standard event to accommodate it.

This cycle has been a circus, Trump and Sanders drew the attention which made Rand's lectures fall flat.

Rand's speeches didn't leave any room for applause or crowd participation.

The suggested speech sent out to caucus captains was an informational speech, not a persuasive speech.

At the end of the day, it was if they were giving features of a dictionary as opposed to trying to sell the dictionary.
 
I think it was number 1. Rand decided to play ball with the establishment; i.e., endorse Mitch McConnell, endorse Mitt Romney, something his Dad would have never done. Also, Rand did not include his Dad in the campaign until the very end, which was too late. I don't know why he didn't embrace his Dad and use Ron to campaign. That would have given him 22% in Iowa plus the extras he would pick up for being younger than his Dad and some of the good legislation he has proposed in the Congress.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dianne again."

I remember the exact day and time when Rand endorsed Romney on Fox- I was shocked. People here were - at first - pretending it didn't happen. That was when the real Rand came out of the closet. "A different kind of Republican" all right- one who craps on the supporters that literally made his father. It's as if Rand started to believe it was all about him.

Both Pauls seem to have an arrogant standoffish kind of attitude towards their supporters. Rand reaped the rewards. Enough already.
 
The real reason: the vast majority neither understand, nor want freedom. Many of those who have even a vague notion of it flee, hands flailing wildly with a look of complete terror in their eyes, screaming "ANARCHY... ANARCHY... RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!"

When all else fails, blame the dumb voters. And whatever you do, don't blame the snot nosed filth that both Pauls seem to insist take part in their campaigns. A winning strategy!
 
I apologize I didn't take the time to read the whole thread, but I find just the title annoying to see every time visiting the forum.

"Failed?" You do realize, practically every politician secretly aspires to president some day - and scheme, deal and compromise to enable even the slightest possibility. Even with that, each of these politicians would be lucky to have a 1% (1-in-100) shot of becoming president. And of the ones who openly try, realize also that the establishment doesn't have a problem with 98% of them because they are compliant, cooperative and embrace horrible policies for power, so the special interest money, the media machine, etc. are not arrayed against them to make it even more difficult.

Yes, there are things that could've been improved, and a different result that was hoped for. But to have tried something with such low odds to begin with, and to take on the entire establishment at the same time is not "failure." Indeed - to assist a first-term senator through those odds, to have once been thought the frontrunner, to have rallied an ideological minority and have come close to breaking through the might of the status quo should rightly be considered quite an accomplishment, or at least the most heroic of attempts.

It used to be just one constitutionalist in Congress, Ron Paul. Now we've multiplied our forces to include Rand, Thomas, Justin, Walter Jones, Curt Clawson, and a host of other potential allies like Dave Brat and Mike Lee who kick the establishment's butt every election and bringing liberty viewpoints forward. We should strive to build on that success, build the movement, and stick together when worthy but low percentage plays like winning the presidency or bumping off incumbents are finished, and go all out in every battle to maximize our chances and fan the flames of liberty.

Onward and upward!
 
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When all else fails, blame the dumb voters. And whatever you do, don't blame the snot nosed filth that both Pauls seem to insist take part in their campaigns. A winning strategy!

It is pretty much exactly this. We can't blame the professionals, because they were paid and were doing a fantastic job, even when they weren't. Now, if you wanted to wait until after everything has fallen apart and blame them, but kept silent when it actually mattered the most, that is okay.

The voters doing what they have always done are to blame though, definitely not the politicians and people in campaigns designed to reach those voters.

So, now that we are blaming the voters, let me ask you.
HOW HARD HAVE YOU VOTED?
Did you vote twice? Three times? Maybe even four?
Is your freedom limited to only one vote?

WHO are you voting for?
If you aren't voting for Vermin Supreme, why are you voting?
 
This was the perfect set up for a candidate like Rand. He just failed miserably.

This political environment is ripe for a anti-establishment guy like Rand. It is why Cruz and Trump are killing it.

The problem with Rand was he focused on all the wrong topics and he wanted to make up for his fathers mistake by courting the establishment.

The key problem was the messaging. People don't care about stuff like spying or the FED. That is just reality.

If Paul or any liberty candidate focused there message on the following they'd have done awesome this excellent:
1. Stopping illegal immigration
2. Defeating ISIS while not nation building countries that haven't attacked us
3. Pro-Life/Guns
4. Reducing deficits, taxes, and Obamacare and tying all that into jobs

He would have appeared as a 'sane' and 'likeable' alternative to Cruz and Trump. Instead he ran the campaign on issues that literally don't even hit the survey of what is important to GOP voters.
 
This was the perfect set up for a candidate like Rand. He just failed miserably.

This political environment is ripe for a anti-establishment guy like Rand. It is why Cruz and Trump are killing it.

The problem with Rand was he focused on all the wrong topics and he wanted to make up for his fathers mistake by courting the establishment.

The key problem was the messaging. People don't care about stuff like spying or the FED. That is just reality.

If Paul or any liberty candidate focused there message on the following they'd have done awesome this excellent:
1. Stopping illegal immigration
2. Defeating ISIS while not nation building countries that haven't attacked us
3. Pro-Life/Guns
4. Reducing deficits, taxes, and Obamacare and tying all that into jobs

He would have appeared as a 'sane' and 'likeable' alternative to Cruz and Trump. Instead he ran the campaign on issues that literally don't even hit the survey of what is important to GOP voters.
Again you are failing to understand that Cruz will connect with the religious crowd better than Rand ever could and that Trump's personality cannot be competed with by Rand.
 
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