2016 Iowa Caucus Thread

[r3volution 3.0]

Agreed. Not to offend anyone of the yutes here, but I have little to non faith in the millennial generation to further the liberty movement.

There are more hardcore libertarians among the millennials than among their parents and grandparents (<--internet).

...unfortunately (and totally predictably, given the public school curriculum), the vast majority of millennials are socialists.

...which is to say that the destiny of libertarian millennials is to be a gold nugget in a pile of shit.

 

[parocks]

Nope, they weren't. And they didn't need to be, either. What we needed was their votes. But, here, on RPFs the purity squad is so busy running people out of here who don't walk lockstep with them, that they overlooked this crucial point. WE NEED VOTES and not only from the self-ordained purity squad.

agree.

 

[Dianne]

CSPAN just said Rand is staying in. Good! Lots can happen in the coming months.

That's great, as he should. He has nothing to be ashamed about tonight, where Bush/Christie/Kasich should crawl into a hole somewhere.

 

[ApathyCuredRP]

There are more hardcore libertarians among the millennials than among their parents and grandparents (<--internet).

...unfortunately (and totally predictably, given the public school curriculum), the vast majority of millennials are socialists.

...which is to say that the destiny of libertarian millennials is to be a gold nugget in a pile of shit.

Yep yep yep. At what point should I as a pie giver, say fuck it, and become a pie taker? Retiring at 35 sounds pretty fun.

 

[Dianne]

omg, looks like the wicked witch won.

 

[Chieppa1]

Rand needs to stay in just to get on that debate stage and sound completely different from the other candidates. He just needs to go full Ron at this point. Fucking scare this country into voting for peace. Explain to them that these others on stage are completely nuts and want to get their kids killed.

 

[Alldayallie]

Tonight showed there will be a brokered convention.

 

[moraha]

One thing everybody has to remember....Mccain was 4th place in Iowa in 2008 and he ended up winning the nomination. Rand needs to change SOMETHING from now on, but it's not over.

Hopefully others behind Rand drop out and it makes things easier. I'm also hoping Carson drops out and endorses him, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[groverblue]

Someone needs to be fired from this campaign.

 

[JenH88]

I think we are headed to a brokered convention and it will be a bloodbath on the way to it and it will be Rubio at the end of the day. I actually thought it would be Rubio from the start ...sadly. The establishment in DC will pour money into Rubio now.

Theyve BEEN pouring money into Rubio hardcore. Here in SC ive gotten two political mailers over the past month. BOTH Rubio.

 

[HarryBrowneLives]

Rand needs to stay in just to get on that debate stage and sound completely different from the other candidates. He just needs to go full Ron at this point. Fucking scare this country into voting for peace. Explain to them that these others on stage are completely nuts and want to get their kids killed.

He needs to stay in and go full on Ron Paul to the wall for my money. Screw it

 

[ApathyCuredRP]

Rand needs to stay in just to get on that debate stage and sound completely different from the other candidates. He just needs to go full Ron at this point. Fucking scare this country into voting for peace. Explain to them that these others on stage are completely nuts and want to get their kids killed.

Can't go wrong I suppose. Drop truth bombs. Talk about the petro-dollar. Talk about why we are in the middle east. Talk about the Fed. Talk about false flags. Talk about it all.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Yep yep yep. At what point should I as a pie giver, say fuck it, and become a pie taker? Retiring at 35 sounds pretty fun.

The top few percent of the population will always do fine: they'll always find gainful employment in the MIC, or Wall Street, or the Politburo.

...depending on the historical situation.

Libertarianism is an humanitarian ideology.

...it's about helping the great masses of fucking morons who just killed us in Iowa.

If you weren't a humanitarian, you would be here.

So, when do you give it up and become a pie-taker?

Never, would be my guess.

 

[Dianne]

Yep yep yep. At what point should I as a pie giver, say fuck it, and become a pie taker? Retiring at 35 sounds pretty fun.

Works for Rubio. He's a 40 something year old "retiree", collecting his Senate salary and benefits, while not showing up to work. He is a typical welfare recipient. I could understand someone taking a leave of absence and not accepting pay, in order to take months off to look for another job. But Rubio continues to collect every dime he can from the taxpayer while not doing a lick of work, or showing up for work.

 

[parocks]

The people don't want logic ...They want a government with a $19T dollar debt to give them freebies and the blood of Mexicans and Muslims. That is the message of this election thusfar.

The message is set by, things are controlled by, oligopoly media. You really can't say what "the people" want these days.

The message thusfar? If you talk about Trump all the time, he'll get some votes. The guy who you don't let in the debates will not be seen as a front runner. Rand Paul did better than Jeb Bush in Iowa. The media is not pushing Rand Paul. That doesn't help, and it didn't help Ron either.

But you can't figure out what people want from the outcomes of elections.

 

[Millennial Conservatarian]

Time to go full Ron

 

[adam220891]

CSPAN just said Rand is staying in. Good! Lots can happen in the coming months.

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[parocks]

Can't go wrong I suppose. Drop truth bombs. Talk about the petro-dollar. Talk about why we are in the middle east. Talk about the Fed. Talk about false flags. Talk about it all.

The problem with that is that Rand has a future that he likely wants to preserve. He's got to keep winning in Kentucky.

 

[ApathyCuredRP]

The problem with that is that Rand has a future that he likely wants to preserve. He's got to keep winning in Kentucky.

I guess he also values his life and doesn't want to be shot.

 

[Swift456]

Rand needs to stay in just to get on that debate stage and sound completely different from the other candidates. He just needs to go full Ron at this point. Fucking scare this country into voting for peace. Explain to them that these others on stage are completely nuts and want to get their kids killed.

Agreed logically he makes the most sense, but emotionally he doesn't hit home all the way. He need to start go after peoples emotions like the rest of the candidates do.

Still wonder why what happened to the 10,000 kids. Probably more than half of them just stay home and were half-ass. And then you got a lot of comp with Rubio, Trump, Carson and Cruz.

But Rand still beat Bush and Christie and another governor in Kasich. It's a decent performance.

And he already has a ground game set up in New Hampshire and has campaigned there a lot. So let's see how he does. Let's keep fighting and believing and hopefully Rand turns it up a notch here.