2014 NFL Season **OFFICIAL THREAD**

[CPUd]

I thought about the timeout thing for a while, and went back to look at the action before the play. Once they got lined up, Pete Carroll I believe was fully expecting NE to call a time out, once that happened, SEA would bring in different personnel and do a run play. They likely had a high probability play that NE hasn't seen yet and wasn't ready for, but didn't want to use their time out until after 3rd down. With the guys they had on the field and the way NE was lined up, not calling timeout, he called the pass play and told Wilson to throw it away to stop the clock if he didn't have a receiver.

This would give them 3rd down to run the play they had been saving, and in the event they did not make it, they let the clock run down to 2 seconds, call time out and put everything on 4th down, the last play of the game.

But NE having that timeout, what they would have likely done is call the timeout to keep them from running down the clock to 2 seconds, and on the next play they would let the runner score with maybe 30 seconds left. This would have been plenty of time to get the ball back into FG range and tie the game.

Big problem with that pass play- Butler said they actually worked on that play in practice and he got beat, so when he saw them line up, he was ready for it. Also said he saw Russell Wilson looking over at the receivers before the snap.

 

[JK/SEA]

ME?...irate?...why no dear sir, tis merely a childs game, a game wrought with suspence, intrigue, a grand mystery if you will. I have nary a concern with my own anxieties that may persist.

FUCK THE PATRIOTS. BASTARDS...THE WHOLE FUCKIN BUNCH OF EM.

The way i see it, this SHOULD have been Seattles THIRD Superbowl win.

next year right?

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!....SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!.

there...i feel better now.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Seattle was running out the clock and about to score a TD for a 3 point lead...why were the Patriots not calling timeouts?

I can only think of one reason.

Yep. Me too. Confidence.

You know, it kind of reminds me of a line from an old movie that i was watching the other day. it went like this...

Billy the Kid. Talking to Doc...You remember the stories John use to tell us about the the three chinamen playing Fantan? This guy runs up to them and says, "Hey, the world's coming to an end!" and the first one says, "Well, I best go to the mission and pray," and the second one says, "Well, hell, I'm gonna go and buy me a case of Mezcal and six whores," and the third one says "Well, I'm gonna finish the game." I shall finish the game, Doc.

 

[JK/SEA]

You shut your whore mouth!

this.

 

[robert68]

Seahawks' Pete Carroll explains ill-fated call in Super Bowl XLIX

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-netwo...7631/Carroll-What-should-ve-happened-happened

 

[CPUd]

It makes more sense now after reading this:
http://nflbreakdowns.com/malcolm-butlers-interception-wilson-superbowl/

More confirmation that NE knew what was coming. They are not going to call timeout if they have a guaranteed interception.

 

[ropo]

Lol who the fuck is this ropo dude? Clearly someone that hasn't payed attention to either patriots games or NFL rules since the beginning of the Brady-Bellichick era.

No, I'm honestly wondering what you're talking about with regard to the refs here. They screwed up a roughing the kicker in the first series, missed a Patriots defender tripping a Seattle receiver, made a ticky-tack call for a late hit by Seattle, and missed a blatant helmet-to-helmet hit on a Patriot receiver. Otherwise they let em play and I loved that.

 

[tommyrp12]

Not that I went into the details of deflate gate, but where is the evidence of wrong doing? They found under pressurized footballs with no explanation. That's it as far as I know. Now this article does not rule out wrong doing but it dose give you guys some food for thought. It could all be due to the environment.


Deflation Experiments Show Patriots May Have a Point After All

 

[JK/SEA]

Not that I went into the details of deflate gate, but where is the evidence of wrong doing? They found under pressurized footballs with no explanation. That's it as far as I know. Now this article does not rule out wrong doing but it dose give you guys some food for thought. It could all be due to the environment.


Deflation Experiments Show Patriots May Have a Point After All

thats funny...your name is Tommy...

nah, couldn't be.

 

[tommyrp12]

Ok you found me out.

 

[Madison320]

I thought about the timeout thing for a while, and went back to look at the action before the play. Once they got lined up, Pete Carroll I believe was fully expecting NE to call a time out, once that happened, SEA would bring in different personnel and do a run play. They likely had a high probability play that NE hasn't seen yet and wasn't ready for, but didn't want to use their time out until after 3rd down. With the guys they had on the field and the way NE was lined up, not calling timeout, he called the pass play and told Wilson to throw it away to stop the clock if he didn't have a receiver.

This would give them 3rd down to run the play they had been saving, and in the event they did not make it, they let the clock run down to 2 seconds, call time out and put everything on 4th down, the last play of the game.

But NE having that timeout, what they would have likely done is call the timeout to keep them from running down the clock to 2 seconds, and on the next play they would let the runner score with maybe 30 seconds left. This would have been plenty of time to get the ball back into FG range and tie the game.

Big problem with that pass play- Butler said they actually worked on that play in practice and he got beat, so when he saw them line up, he was ready for it. Also said he saw Russell Wilson looking over at the receivers before the snap.

I don't think passing the ball in that situation was a bad call. But passing the ball OVER THE MIDDLE was a terrible idea to me. The whole defense was in the middle to defend the run. A much safer play would be to fake the handoff to Lynch and run a bootleg with the option to pass.

 

[JK/SEA]

Monday morning quarterbacking in full swing.

personnally, i think you can 'over think' a situation.

Damn, your one yard away from winning the Superbowl, and sometimes ya just have to go to your power runner, especially with 2 downs to do it.

http://www.komonews.com/sports/Eric-Johnson-I-woulda-run-the-dammed-ball-290578201.html

 

[CPUd]

I don't know if a touchdown alone would have won it for them, unless it was the last play of the game. These are 2 of the few teams ever who could give up a score and answer with their own in the last 30 seconds of a game.

But what I was really expecting to happen was for the Seahawks to score on a run play right then, NE gets the ball back, moves it to around the 50-yard-line before someone intercepts Brady. Or the next likely thing would be to get into FG range, kick it and have the first ever overtime, where whoever won the toss would score a TD and end it.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I don't think passing the ball in that situation was a bad call. But passing the ball OVER THE MIDDLE was a terrible idea to me. The whole defense was in the middle to defend the run. A much safer play would be to fake the handoff to Lynch and run a bootleg with the option to pass.

Agree. Was saying that right after the play.

 

[cajuncocoa]

thats funny...your name is Tommy...

nah, couldn't be.

Not just Tommy....Tommy...rp...12

 

[Brian4Liberty]

the 'gronk' threw the first punch.

you have a problem with self defense?...

the whole fuckin patriot team should have been banned from playing in this game...

Irvin started it all. The Refs got that right. He came in after the play and started pushing. Gronkowski reacted to that and pushed back.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Irving started it all. The Refs got that right. He came in after the play and started pushing. Gronkowski reacted to that and pushed back.

I'm being persnickety, but his name is "Irvin".

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I'm being persnickety, but his name is "Irvin".

Damn autocorrect!

 

[Natural Citizen]

Damn autocorrect!

Suuuuure..

You probably just pick your favorite team based upon which one has the coolest looking hemets, huh.

I'm just messing with you. Heh...

 

[Zippyjuan]

Everybody can argue over what did or should have happened but it was a great game to watch. Especially all that action in the final two minutes of both halves. Not quit by either team. (I doubt my Bronco's would have been close against either of them).