If the state convention had unbound the delegates they could have voted for whoever they wanted to.
20/28 Nevada Delegates Bound to Romney, but can vote freely on bylaws
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If the state convention had unbound the delegates they could have voted for whoever they wanted to.
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"If the state convention had unbound the delegates they could have voted for whoever they wanted to. "
Yes thats my point....Now no matter what now they are bound to Romney unless they obstain in which a possible Romney alternate could step in and make the vote for Romney.
If they were unbound they wouldn't be forced to vote for Romney and could vote for Paul.
So why didnt they try to unbind the delegates?
Yes thats my point....Now no matter what now they are bound to Romney unless they obstain in which a possible Romney alternate could step in and make the vote for Romney.
If they were unbound they wouldn't be forced to vote for Romney and could vote for Paul.
So why didnt they try to unbind the delegates?
Unbinding the delegates would have broken the delegate selection rules the Nevada GOP sent to the RNC back in October. The RNC is saying that if you break rules, you will get penalized (like how Florida lost half their delegates for breaking the calendar rule). The RNC said that one penalty may be that no delegates will be seated.
I'm sure the campaign weighed all the pros and cons and thought it was better to not try and unbind the delegates.
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The RNC clearly felt it would break their rules for the state convention to unbind the delegates. The RNC sent a lawyer to the convention this morning. That means they would have fought any attempt at the convention to unbound the delegates. That would also mean that (if we had successfully unbound the delegates at the state convention) the RNC would have fought the unbinding of these delegates when we got to the national convention too, probably try to have them removed.
Maybe the Ron Paul campaign feels confident that Romney won't win on the first vote in Tampa, why make a move that will be vigorously challenged by the national party? why not wait and let the delegates become unbound after the first vote at tampa, when their unbinding cannot be fought by the RNC as a breach of the rules? If we had done it today at state level it may have been overturned in Tampa or worse the delegates ejected. When it happens in Tampa after the first vote, there will be nothing the RNC can do about it.
I think.
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Ok now I see.This is nerve racking.
Jeremy
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That's why Texas and California are so important.
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So what are the states that we for sure already have?
I've heard that we won in MN (confirmed by wiki), IA, WA, LA and ME. Did I miss anything? It looks like we have the 5 state minimum, hopefully now the GOP establishment will refrain from pulling any shenanigans.
I've heard that we won in MN (confirmed by wiki), IA, WA, LA and ME. Did I miss anything? It looks like we have the 5 state minimum, hopefully now the GOP establishment will refrain from pulling any shenanigans.
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Only MN is official right now. ME will be official later today I believe. I know LA is going to happen, but it's not official yet. Not sure about IA and WA.
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Yea, well, unfortunately, Cali is WTA by CD. WTA is terrible for Ron, because Romney always wins the straw poll vote. Same with my state (NJ) which is even worse and is WTA state wide. Romney will win NJ hands down, no doubt about that, so thats 50 d's for him right there. Ron will obviously win some CDs in Cali, but i cant see him winning more than a 1/3 of them, if even 1/4. There are like only 7 repubs in the whole state of Cali anyway, its virtually liberal HQ out there. Then again, that could be a good thing, but maybe not.
Well what about MA? Didnt Romney get owned in his own state? He is already contesting that too though, along with ME. Its gonna be forever until all of those states are finalized with them endlessly contesting the shit, for obvious reasons
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Jeremy
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No, even if the MA dels weren't bound to Romney, Romney would still have the majority.Well what about MA? Didnt Romney get owned in his own state? He is already contesting that too though, along with ME. Its gonna be forever until all of those states are finalized with them endlessly contesting the shit, for obvious reasons
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ly-on-bylaws&p=4403304&viewfull=1#post4403304
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Yea, well, unfortunately, Cali is WTA by CD. WTA is terrible for Ron, because Romney always wins the straw poll vote. Same with my state (NJ) which is even worse and is WTA state wide. Romney will win NJ hands down, no doubt about that, so thats 50 d's for him right there. Ron will obviously win some CDs in Cali, but i cant see him winning more than a 1/3 of them, if even 1/4. There are like only 7 repubs in the whole state of Cali anyway, its virtually liberal HQ out there. Then again, that could be a good thing, but maybe not.
Well what about MA? Didnt Romney get owned in his own state? He is already contesting that too though, along with ME. Its gonna be forever until all of those states are finalized with them endlessly contesting the shit, for obvious reasons
I'm not sure Romney will win the straw vote in all cds IF Ron gets some media on delegates.
Someone is posting under another thread that under RNC rule 40, the delegates are only bound for the vote not other business so should count towards Ron's plurality number.
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It doesn't work that way. Those are the delegates to RNC. The delegates to NV STATE voted on this.
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After looking at our own delegate count here.
Nevada
Number of Delegates: 28 total
Delegate Allocation: All 28 awarded proportionally
Results:
Romney: 14
Gingrich: 6
Paul: 5
Santorum: 3
It appears that once santo and grich officially end their campaigns or if their delegates are already free, then we get half.
Is this right ?
Nevada
Number of Delegates: 28 total
Delegate Allocation: All 28 awarded proportionally
Results:
Romney: 14
Gingrich: 6
Paul: 5
Santorum: 3
It appears that once santo and grich officially end their campaigns or if their delegates are already free, then we get half.
Is this right ?
Bingo. Get your people to the RNC bound or unbound and try to change the rules BEFORE the 1st round even takes place.
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