Interesting, I fought my ex-husband very hard on the circumcision issue, I feel it's a barbaric and inhumane procedure with absolutely no redeeming or health value. I lost the debate. I have also had to fight my ex very hard to contribute both financially and in giving "Dad time" to the kids we both created. All of you
must know that this is not at all uncommon. As such, my children have spent far more time with their mother than their father (who, interestingly enough, has for years used Jesus as a reason to not spend time with his boys, "I would, but I have to go to church.") Now that they are adults he will begin paying the real price. My oldest son, almost 21, has two entries in his cel phone for his parents. His father's entry is his father's first name (and he never answers his calls or returns his messages), I am "Mom". Yes, I know it works both ways, too.
I find it amusing to read that some of you are inferring that it is women who prompt men to do something about whatever penile dysfunctions they may have, very amusing. As if it even comes close to being an apt comparison. I would also never dare tell a man what to do with his penis unless he was using it on or against me (for instance, please don't show me your pecker when I haven't asked to see it, and don't touch me with it unless I've indicated I want you to).
So, since the majority of you have never actually physically been pregnant, I am wondering, what would you do if you lost many jobs due to very bad pregnancy-related nausea and other issues? Have you lost a job simply because you were pregnant? Ever been told to go on welfare by the Labor Board because you were fired specifically for being pregnant and couldn't find someone to hire you through your last trimester? How about the puking? Ever end up in the emergency room because you couldn't stop throwing up? This is specifically directed at the men (I don't seem to be able to pick out very many women participating here).
Very much as a woman, I
do think I should have a right to choose, and I don't think that I should be forced to move away from my home in order to exercise that right. I also think that it is not unreasonable to draw a line, as you so aptly point out, at the moment of conception we are talking about a zygote, a blob of cells, and immediately before birth we are hardly talking about a blob of meat. That is why I feel that the usual 12 week cut off limit is usually reasonable. I do not think that it is a wasted exercise to consider still all the children who will wait their whole lives to be adopted, only to be turned out by the state system at the age of 18.
However, those are my personal views and those do not, in my mind, take away from the larger message and greater possibilities we are presented with by a man such as Ron Paul.
I love Mexicans, Mexican food, Mexican culture, etc... my spanish is a bit rusty but still usable... still, I can't see why anyone would want to turn the United States into the same third world country that Mexico is.
I don't think anyone does. And, if it were the same, do you think Central Americans (it's
not just Mexicans who jump the border folks!), South Americans, people from Caribbean and African nations, and poor Asian countries would be clamoring to get here if it were?
tsoldrin said:
At it's simplest, Mexico is far richer in nearly every natural resource and look what's come of it. That's exactly what America would become with open borders. It's likely it'll happen anyway with the poorly implemented immigration policy, just more slowly.
You know, we've accepted poor, illiterate immigrants with few to no job skills in the past, and it didn't cripple us. Why is it suddenly the case now? Of course, living in California and learning as much about our history as I have, I also understand that we already
were Mexico.
I'm not saying that we don't have a problem, I don't want the U.S. to be the receiving grounds for misfits and criminals. However, coming from a family who sponsors many Mexicans who may or may not have initially arrived illegally to get their greencards
and citizenship, I know that many, many of them go on to be very productive members of our society. And really, that's what I want to see; come one come all (not too many at a time, please), but become American and contribute to us as a whole.
