2 Japanese Nationals caught trying to dump 134 billion in treasuries

It seems something similar happened last year, which was jointly investigated by Japan and Korea related to 2 Koreans and a Japanese man attempting to exchange 500 billion en in forged Japanese securities for cash at a Korean bank. According to the Korean media, one of the Korean men was also suspected of having attempted an exchange of forged American railroad securities for cash.

I've been discussing all of this with other people in Japan; there's been all kinds of speculation, including the idea that the main media networks, such as NHK and TBS, aren't following up on the story because it may involve North Korea. I would hope that it doesn't, as that may add fuel to the fire.

source:
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/world/korea/081111/kor0811111334000-n1.htm
 
I guess let's keep gathering links and news coverage from around the world and when we have a lot, forward all of it to ALL the MSM outlets... and the lower tier ones too! "Democracy Now" loves covering things like this.

Is this story on other forums? I can't seem to see any other in depth dialog going on across the net.

I do love the HYPOCRITICAL timing to the Japanese Finance Minister on the US Greenback... no mention that he has intervened twice this year to Prop the dollar/devaluation of the YEN.

Such Fiscal Propaganda Nonsense by these 101 government amateurs.
 
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If the SEC says the bonds are fake Italy should just say then we will just sit on the bonds and the guys get should get charged. Check Mate. I sure wouldn't send them to the SEC who can't do anything right. If they get charged they might squeal.

If the are not fake, Italy will want their take and this whole mess blows up. Who claims the rest of the money. Catch 22

Somehow I don't think this is going away. The FED,Treasury. and our media have been very quite.
 
Should the U.S. or the Fed rather even care who holds these.
Its just debt to us... right?
 
If they are real, and the US or another Country had some kind of under the table deal going on, and Italy takes 40 percent of the money they are going to care. Unless it was a set up for Italy to get the money I could not see them wanting to give up 40 percent of that kind of money.

It does seem strange this is not being discussed in the US. I suspect next week they will no longer be able to ignore with the SEC involved.
 
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If the SEC says the bonds are fake Italy should just say then we will just sit on the bonds and the guys get should get charged. Check Mate. I sure wouldn't send them to the SEC who can't do anything right. If they get charged they might squeal.

If the are not fake, Italy will want their take and this whole mess blows up. Who claims the rest of the money. Catch 22

Somehow I don't think this is going away. The FED,Treasury. and our media have been very quite.

The Socio-Fascist state of Italy is in dire need of money...U.S. military base in Vicenza, Italy. The project, approved by a joint Italian-US Military Construction Committee working under the still-classified 1954 Bilateral Infrastructure Agreement, includes 25 new buildings with lodging for 1200 soldiers and multi-story car parks for over 800 vehicles.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12417[url]http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12417[/URL]
In a failed attempt to quell fierce local opposition, in November 2007 changes were made to the project that moved the base just a few hundred meters away to the Italian military side of the same area. The airport itself has been shut down and the runway has just recently been destroyed to make room for the new base. As part of the “compensation package” offered by the Italian government, a new runway will be rebuilt on what is left of Dal Molin at a cost of 11.5 million euros to Italian taxpayers.

Nancy Pelosi is such an Idiot... read the circumstance and her moronic statements.

Meanwhile, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was in also Italy where she met with Prime Minister Berlusconi and thanked him for the hospitality given to U.S. troops in Italy. Speaking to Italian parliament she said, “I wonder how many Americans know that there are 14,000 U.S. troops in Italy, how many know of the Italian leadership role in combating nuclear proliferation.” She promised a new era of cooperation between the U.S. and allies. “There is no way that we will establish a policy that then imposes upon others obligations for which they have no consultation.”

And was she aware that, while visiting the US Air Force Base in Aviano, she was practically sitting on top of 50 U.S. nuclear warheads stored at the base (another 40 are stored at the Ghedi Torre base) in violation of the spirit of the non-proliferation treaty?
Pelosi’s remarks raise a number of questions. Does the Speaker know that Italian taxpayers cover close to 40% of the operating costs of U.S. bases in Italy? Does she know that last October in a local referendum, which had officially been suspended just four days before it was to take place but was held with help of hundreds of volunteers, 95% of the 24,094 voters who did participate, voted against the new U.S base at Dal Molin?
 
Wow

This story is amazing!

There is no way to slice it that doesn't raise huge questions and create huge consequences.

I can't imagine they are counterfeit. What fool would counterfeit $500 million bonds and think they could succeed in passing them?

I could easily fit this incident into my own economic doomsday scenario - while Japan verbally supports the dollar, it is secretly trying to unload dollars in exchange for . . . what? Gold? At current prices, $135 billion buys an awful lot of gold. Like . . . um . . . ALL of it?

Very bizarre.

One conclusion is almost inescapable: the picture of the world you get from official government statements and from the MSM is a mere shadow of the reality. Nearly everything important that governments, banks, etc are doing is done secretly.
 
this story is amazing!

There is no way to slice it that doesn't raise huge questions and create huge consequences.

I can't imagine they are counterfeit. What fool would counterfeit $500 million bonds and think they could succeed in passing them?

I could easily fit this incident into my own economic doomsday scenario - while japan verbally supports the dollar, it is secretly trying to unload dollars in exchange for . . . What? Gold? At current prices, $135 billion buys an awful lot of gold. Like . . . Um . . . All of it?

Very bizarre.

One conclusion is almost inescapable: The picture of the world you get from official government statements and from the msm is a mere shadow of the reality. Nearly everything important that governments, banks, etc are doing is done secretly.

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http://seekingalpha.com/article/143...cies-in-the-134-5-billion-bearer-bond-mystery

some great analysis here.


Here’s yet another huge financial story that has been virtually blacked out by the US financial media. Although on the surface, this story appears to be a non-event, if we consider some of the released facts about this case, you will understand why I consider it to be a huge story. On June 8th, the Asia News reported the following story:

“Italy’s financial police (Guardia italiana di Finanza) has seized US bonds worth US 134.5 billion from two Japanese nationals at Chiasso (40 km from Milan) on the border between Italy and Switzerland. They include 249 US Federal Reserve bonds worth US$ 500 million each, plus ten Kennedy bonds and other US government securities worth a billion dollars each. Italian authorities have not yet determined whether they are real or fake, but if they are real the attempt to take them into Switzerland would be the largest financial smuggling operation in history; if they are fake, the matter would be even more mind-boggling because the quality of the counterfeit work is such that the fake bonds are undistinguishable from the real ones.”

Here are just a few fascinating facts about this case (at least they are being reported as “facts” at this current time):

(1) Though the smugglers have been identified in the press as “Japanese nationals” there has yet to be any confirmation if the smugglers were indeed Japanese or of some other ethnicity. How difficult is it to confirm the ethnicity of the smugglers and why is this information being kept secret?

(2) According to a brief Bloomberg article regarding this story, the seized bearer bonds allegedly were dated as of 1934. Since bearer bonds in denominations of $500 million did not exist in 1934, the bonds were deduced as fake, though the Italian police are still waiting for a declaration regarding the bonds’ authenticity from the SEC. There is something truly “off” about this declaration. How can the quality of the forged bearer bonds be so meticulous that they “are indistinguishable from the real ones”, yet the people involved in the alleged forgery so ill-informed as to not date the bearer bonds with a more recent year that would not immediately identify them as fraudulent? How hard would it have been to date the bearer bonds with a more recent year? An equivalent analogy would be if an expert art forger meticulously re-created a Picasso oil canvas and then erroneously signed the work with the wrong artist’s name. This story just does not add up.

(3) The Bloomberg story also reported that there is no known existence of the alleged 10 Kennedy bonds that were discovered in the smuggler’s suitcases, each with a denomination of $1 billion. Again, this discovery defies any logical explanation. Why would expert counterfeiters make 249 bearer bonds with denominations of $500 million apiece, each indistinguishable from the real thing, and then instead of just making 20 more such bonds, decide to make 10 bonds in denominations of $1 billion a piece in a bearer bond design that has never existed? Were the alleged counterfeiters just too lazy to confirm if Kennedy bearer bonds were ever a legitimately issued security? Again, this story makes no sense.

(4) On March 30, 2009, the US Treasury Department announced that USD $134.5 billion remained in its Troubled Asset Relief Program [TARP]. The stated amount of seized bearer bonds was $134.5 billion. Coincidence?

(5) The two well-dressed Japanese men opted to travel to Chiasso on a local train normally full of Italian manual laborers commuting to Switzerland. If they were really intent on successfully smuggling these bonds, counterfeit or real, why would they not take more care to select a travel route in which it was literally impossible for them not to stick out like two sore thumbs? Again, this part of the story defies all logic.

(6) The bearer bonds were discovered in a hidden briefcase compartment after a customs inspection. Again, if the bonds were indeed authentic and owned by a nation state, they could have been transported in a diplomatic pouch exempt from customs searches that would have guaranteed transport without detection.
Thus, all of the above irreconcilable and illogical points, other than the coincidence of the amount of the bearer bonds exactly matching the remaining TARP fund amount declared on March 30th, seem to indicate that not only were the seized bearer bonds counterfeit, but also that the smugglers were intent on being caught.
Before I continue, let’s review the purpose of bearer bonds.

Here is the Wikipedia definition of bearer bonds:

“A bearer bond is a debt security issued by a business entity, such as a corporation, or by a government. It differs from the more common types of investment securities in that it is unregistered – no records are kept of the owner, or the transactions involving ownership. Whoever physically holds the paper on which the bond is issued owns the instrument. This is useful for investors who wish to retain anonymity. The downside is that in the event of loss or theft, bearer bonds are extremely difficult to recover.”

If you recall the Michael Mann movie “Heat”, starring Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino, during a daring daytime armored car robbery, the criminals specifically targeted millions of dollars of bearer bonds for theft precisely because of the above qualities of bearer bonds that make them very difficult to trace. Again, due to the properties of bearer bonds, it seems highly unlikely that $134.5 billion of bearer bonds would be transported, if they were real, by two men with no security, since theft almost guarantees that they would be lost forever.

Thus far, about the only piece of information that appears to be reliable as reported by various news sources regarding this huge mystery is the remarkable authenticity of the 249 seized bearer bonds in denominations of USD $500 million. If any of the other facts, as they are being reported, are remotely accurate, then the bearer bonds were likely counterfeit. Still, the interesting part of this story, at least to me, is that the smugglers seemed intent on being caught with the counterfeit bonds. This leads me back to my previous question. What possible reason would the smugglers have for wanting to be caught? One of the quickest ways to sabotage and usher in the death of a currency is to raise legitimate questions about its ability to withstand counterfeiting efforts. Prove that counterfeiting is not only possible but highly likely, and the world’s confidence in the sabotaged currency will undoubtedly plummet.

In fact, this very tactic was applied during World War II when the Nazis launched Operation Bernhard in an attempt to crash the British economy by producing, by 1945, 132 million expertly counterfeited British pounds, a figure that represented roughly 15% of all real British pounds in circulation at the time. The counterfeit pounds were produced by expert printers and engravers supervised by an SS officer named Bernhard Krueger. As well, historical evidence exists that the Allies considered launching a counter-counterfeit plan against the Nazis as well. During this time, it was also alleged that the Bank of Italy counterfeited their own money by issuing the same securities twice with identical registered numbers and codes in order. The purpose of this counterfeiting was to secretly expand monetary supply without public transparency or accountability. Perhaps then, this $134.5.billion bearer bond mystery was an attempt of a nation state to shake the world’s confidence in the position of the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency.

There should be little debate that the world’s emerging economies in Russia, Brazil, China and certain Gulf Nations are at economic war today with the world’s Western nations and their economic allies. The currency war being fought today is sure to get much uglier in the foreseeable future, in both open tactics as well as secretly executed tactics. Currently, if the currency war were the world series of poker, the US and the UK would be holding a pair of 2s and relying on nothing but bluffs to keep the rest of the world at bay. Conversely, the Chinese and other emerging nations with large surpluses would be holding straight or royal flushes, and likely quietly maneuvering to go “all in” at some point.

Given that the discovery of $134.5 billion of bearer bonds in the suitcases of two Japanese nationals in Chiasso, Italy on the border of Switzerland qualifies as one of the largest smuggling operations in history, and given the various implications of such an act and the possible players involved, the silence regarding this huge story is simply stunning. It is not a huge story, per se, because of the counterfeiting operation, because accusations and revelations of massive money counterfeiting operations have occured in the past. It is a huge story, rather, due to all the inconsistencies of the story and the potential explanations that could explain these inconsistencies. The larger story at hand is, who are the players (nations) involved, and what was the intention of this likely counterfeiting operation? Maybe the future will reveal the answers to these questions. But maybe not
 

http://goldismoney.info/forums/archive/index.php/t-20524.html


2 Brits nabbed with $3 trillion in fake US fed notes
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topofthehour.aspx?StoryId=3274http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topoftheh...x?StoryId=3274

The National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) on Thursday said it has arrested two British nationals with $3 trillion fake US federal bank notes in their possession, DZMM reported.

NBI Director Reynaldo Wycoco identified the suspects as Paul Edward John Flavell and Sam Beany. The two listed their address as Unit 305 CEO Apartments in Jupiter Street, Makati City.

The suspects were not physically present during the press conference called by Wycoco at the NBI office in Taft Avenue, Manila. Only the suspects' photographs were shown to reporters.

Wycoco said NBI agents have also launched a manhunt for two other British nationals involved in the syndicate.

The two other suspects are Seki Mehmet Bayram and Peter Whittkamp.

Flavell and Beany's arrest came following a tip from international cargo forwarder DHL Philippines Inc. on April 14, Wycoco said.

The tip was about a shipment consigned to two foreigners, which was pending at the company warehouse.

The forwarder said the cargo was bound for Zurich, Switzerland.

The NBI dispatched a team to the DHL office. The agents were able to chance upon the suspects as they were paying the airway bill amounting to P53,967.

Company records show the suspects paid using a credit card.

Wycoco said Flavell and Beany did not resist arrest after they were made to open the cast-iron boxes containing bogus federal bank reserve certificates.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topoftheh...x?StoryId=3274

http://www.rumormillnews.com/OLDHEADLINES.htm
 
Posted on another forum

http://www.goldenagora.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=30

It is easy to verify the bonds are authentic; they have serial numbers...


The real problem here, and this is where trouble is gonna start, those types of bonds haven't been given out since the 80's, and the remaining outstanding balance of that particular type of bond is less than $134 billion.

The only way this could happen is if past administrations have been dealing bonds illegally off the books, if this has been happening in mass, which my cynical self tends to believe, we are going to be hit with a storm of bonds returning to destroy the bond market, as everybody rushes to cash out while they still can.

Weimar Republic and hyper inflation here we come!!
 
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[url]http://www.goldenagora.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=30[/URL]

It is easy to verify the bonds are authentic; they have serial numbers...


The real problem here, and this is where trouble is gonna start, those types of bonds haven't been given out since the 80's, and the remaining outstanding balance of that particular type of bond is less than $134 billion.

The only way this could happen is if past administrations have been dealing bonds illegally off the books, if this has been happening in mass, which my cynical self tends to believe, we are going to be hit with a storm of bonds returning to destroy the bond market, as everybody rushes to cash out while they still can.

Weimar Republic and hyper inflation here we come!!


You are probably correct. If the FED can print money out of thin air, then why can't Treasuries be printed out of thin air as well?
 
You are probably correct. If the FED can print money out of thin air, then why can't Treasuries be printed out of thin air as well?

"Backed by the Good and Solid Faith of the US Government!"
:rolleyes:

WE have a Banana Republic government with a Gilded Gold & Granite Capital.

I wonder who's doing the Immunity Legislation for the US government, the US Treasury, and THE FED?
 
this story just keeps getting more and more bizarre!

http://www.rense.com/general41/lost.htm

2.5 Trillion In Lost 1930's
US Treasury Notes? Naive Scam - Or Secret CIA Counterfeits?


A HAUL of $2.5 trillion dollars worth of United States Federal Reserve notes, dated 1934, bearing the signature of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, packed in sealed tins, some said to be protected by canisters of poisonous gas, does require explanation.....

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after reading the article some interesting thoughts materialize:

A) maybe the $134 billion in bonds are in fact legitimate, yet the were either produced by the CIA for some top secret pay-off as alluded to in the story above. would that count as counterfeit or not if an official government agency hands over bonds to another state?

B) or these bonds were never intended to be in general circulation and were only issued by the treasury for a covert operation to pay off a foreign government. but with the intention of never actually taking them back.

given the silence in the main stream media and the shenanigans our government has been up to i would guess scenario B being the most likely.
 
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