12/16 Promotion - Want $6.5 Million? We Need 65,000 Pledges for $100 on TeaParty11.com

[FA.Hayek]

I just went through a bunch of Ron Paul youtube videos and left a comment about the Tea Party moneybomb, please youtube Ron Paul, look for comments talking about the moneybomb and upvote it, otherwise they'll be buried by other comments

 

[qwerty]

Could we add the official youtube video for the first post ?

 

[Sentinelrv]

Could we add the official youtube video for the first post ?

I added it.

 

[european]

If someone can make a GOOD flier, or half flier. I'll start printing and passing out.

Spanky check out the low resolution pdf:
http://www.ronpaulproducts.com/pictures/RonPaul_Brochure_11x17_V2_Low.pdf

Or visit the forumthread
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...oducts.com-THE-SUPER-BROCHURE-FOR-.07-or-less!!!!!


or send him a message: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=1621 and get the high resolution pdf.

Edit: erm, after posting this comment, I guess you meant a flyer for this moneybomb? I think I lack some sleep. hahaha

 

[Spanky]

I meant for the moneybomb

But yes I will be getting those in hands when it's time for Indiana to vote

 

[nathanielyao]

There's two other things I need. A Facebook pledge widget and printable flyers.

In case any of you noticed, I used a lot more example images in this thread and I included a lot of copy and paste messages that people can quickly use to promote the money bomb.

Flyer courtesy of Liberty Broadsides, will see if they can add the website address directly on the flyer:

 

[TexMac]

Now that you have this thread, are you going to email the Black This Out list? We've waited too long if you ask me.

Not this again..

Why can't the list be handed over to Josh or an elder?

I'm not promoting this until we get an answer to this question.

What is wrong with the email list for BTO? Why can't we use it? Stop disappearing and dodging this question. I don't want to direct any more people to the BTO-style website until we figure out why the emailers keep flaking out.

Does the list need to be managed by someone else? Or is there something technically wrong with it? Let's get this hashed out NOW.

 

[nathanielyao]

Working on finding out now, I'll get you an answer as soon as I can.

I'm not promoting this until we get an answer to this question.

What is wrong with the email list for BTO? Why can't we use it? Stop disappearing and dodging this question. I don't want to direct any more people to the BTO-style website until we figure out why the emailers keep flaking out.

Does the list need to be managed by someone else? Or is there something technically wrong with it? Let's get this hashed out NOW.

 

[TexMac]

Also, Sentinelrv, I think facebook has changed the event invitations somehow, because I am no longer allowed to invite all my friends using the greasemonkey script. I get a message telling me to only invite people who will be "interested" in this event. I went back and tried inviting less people and it let me invite about 30, but when I tried to invite 30 more, it stopped me again.

I'm not too upset about this because I think inviting people to the fb event is futile anyway. They already can't message people, and there are 10,000 "awaiting reply." Those people will never get a message about the event. They blew off their invitation, so they have no reason to ever visit that page again and you can't message them.

Too many of our RP people on facebook join so many RP events and pages and have so many RP friends, that it's hard to keep up with notifications. Right now, I have 30 notifications and I've already checked them once today, so it can be easy to get lost in the noise. If someone checks their notifications and doesn't go to the event immediately and click attending, they will most likely never become aware of that event again. If they are invited once, they can never be invited again, so even if they're "friends" with multiple RP people, they'll only get one invitation.

As it is, the only point to inviting people to this "official" event is to get the message to them about the pledge website, which they can very easily miss. I doubt the results of inviting people to the fb event is worth the effort.

 

[TexMac]

Also, Gage had about a thousand email pledges at his site for the 11-11-11 bomb and those need to be incorporated into our master list somehow. Is anyone doing that?

 

[TexMac]

The teaparty11.com site still says "11,538 Pledges So Far." All but a few hundred of those are in reality BTO email addresses that have been added to the TeaParty site even though they never actually pledged to the TeaParty moneybomb. Last I read, those were supposed to be sorted out and the BTO emails taken out of the count. This has apparently not happened yet.

Those emails need to be removed before we get in to a bunch of controversy when people who haven't pledged to the TeaParty bomb try to pledge and find out they are already pledged. Some people won't mind but there are likely a LOT who do and will be angry. This needs to be a priority, as in ASAP.

People need to be able to trust that we aren't doing anything shady with their emails, and this bogus count is really getting us off on the wrong foot.

 

[TexMac]

dup

 

[dusman]

The teaparty11.com site still says "11,538 Pledges So Far." All but a few hundred of those are in reality BTO email addresses that have been added to the TeaParty site even though they never actually pledged to the TeaParty moneybomb. Last I read, those were supposed to be sorted out and the BTO emails taken out of the count. This has apparently not happened yet.

Those emails need to be removed before we get in to a bunch of controversy when people who haven't pledged to the TeaParty bomb try to pledge and find out they are already pledged. Some people won't mind but there are likely a LOT who do and will be angry. This needs to be a priority, as in ASAP.

People need to be able to trust that we aren't doing anything shady with their emails, and this bogus count is really getting us off on the wrong foot.

This is why there is a delay. We're trying to separate these back out so that pledges are maintained on a separate list, but e-mail updates go out to all subscribers from both moneybombs. It's been a headache, but we should have it sorted out here very soon.

 

[TexMac]

This is why there is a delay. We're trying to separate these back out so that pledges are maintained on a separate list, but e-mail updates go out to all subscribers from both moneybombs. It's been a headache, but we should have it sorted out here very soon.

The email updates should only go out to people who have pledged to the particular bomb you are promoting, in this case the TeaParty bomb. There should be ONE email to the BTO list informing them of the new bomb. If people choose not to participate in the TeaParty bomb, they shouldn't get updates for it. If you send ALL of the updates to the whole list, you will get people unsubscribing en masse.

You have to respect people's wishes. They signed up for BTO, so it is reasonable to let them know about the next bomb. However, if they decide not to participate in the TeaParty bomb, you will only annoy them with updates to that bomb, triggering usubscribes. That is why the subscription has to start over for each new bomb.

 

[Sentinelrv]

The Tea Party website doesn't say anything in the disclaimer about getting daily updates. I think it should be made clear what they are signing up for.

 

[TexMac]

This is from Trevor's TeaParty email in '07:

13,340 subscribers 11/14/07

Please join us this December 16th 2007 for the largest one-day political donation event in history. Our goal is to bring together 100,000 people to donate $100 each, creating a one day donation total of $10,000,000.

Please visit TeaParty07.com to learn more.

Note the date, 11/14/07. As of TEN DAYS ago, in '07, there were already more pledges to TeaParty than there ever were to BTO. That's how behind this bomb is.

Can we please get realistic about how long it is going to take to get the site operational? "Very soon" doesn't do it. We need real information so we can make some serious decisions. Like possibly we should slap up a bare bones site with a feedburner email pledge box. Because if it's this difficult to get the site going, we need to do something different.

 

[dusman]

The email updates should only go out to people who have pledged to the particular bomb you are promoting, in this case the TeaParty bomb. There should be ONE email to the BTO list informing them of the new bomb. If people choose not to participate in the TeaParty bomb, they shouldn't get updates for it. If you send ALL of the updates to the whole list, you will get people unsubscribing en masse.

You have to respect people's wishes. They signed up for BTO, so it is reasonable to let them know about the next bomb. However, if they decide not to participate in the TeaParty bomb, you will only annoy them with updates to that bomb, triggering usubscribes. That is why the subscription has to start over for each new bomb.

This is our concern as well and why we haven't sent out an e-mail yet. We have to make it so that BTO list can transition to the TeaParty list, while also still being able to pledge to TeaParty11. Unfortunately, it's not as simple as it would seem. Luckily, we are pretty close to having a solution here.

Note the date, 11/14/07. As of TEN DAYS ago, in '07, there were already more pledges to TeaParty than there ever were to BTO. That's how behind this bomb is.

Can we please get realistic about how long it is going to take to get the site operational? "Very soon" doesn't do it. We need real information so we can make some serious decisions. Like possibly we should slap up a bare bones site with a feedburner email pledge box. Because if it's this difficult to get the site going, we need to do something different.

This is true, however keep in mind that subscribers aren't necessarily indicative of actual donors. For example, we had less than 1/3 of the total list Trevor collected for TeaParty07, but we still attracted 45k donors to BTO in comparison to 59k for TeaParty07. It was the second highest donor amount we've had for any of the moneybombs. This is representative of our improvement in promotional efforts outside of the list-building. We really should keep that in mind and duplicate our efforts from BTO.

What I would recommend is focusing on getting web sites to add the widgets to their web sites and work on getting the word out. Meanwhile, we'll get the list straightened out, but we don't have to rest everything upon the list for decisions as it's only one aspect. Sentinelrv has great detail here on what can be done and we need as many people as possible going through and getting active in it.

 

[TexMac]

This is true, however keep in mind that subscribers aren't necessarily indicative of actual donors. For example, we had less than 1/3 of the total list Trevor collected for TeaParty07, but we still attracted 45k donors to BTO in comparison to 59k for TeaParty07. It was the second highest donor amount we've had for any of the moneybombs. This is representative of our improvement in promotional efforts outside of the list-building. We really should keep that in mind and duplicate our efforts from BTO.

No, actually, it's because the campaign is doing pretty much all the promotion with their own email list.

What I would recommend is focusing on getting web sites to add the widgets to their web sites and work on getting the word out. Meanwhile, we'll get the list straightened out, but we don't have to rest everything upon the list for decisions as it's only one aspect. Sentinelrv has great detail here on what can be done and we need as many people as possible going through and getting active in it.

We need some hard facts here. When will the list be operational? I posted before that I'm NOT encouraging anyone to sign up on a list we can't use.

We need to set up a process. When we want to send an email out, it should go out. We need Sentinelrv to be in charge of when the emails go out. We need you to put the ability to do this in his hands.

As things stand, it's my opinion that the email sign-up should be switched to feedburner on the TeaParty site so that there will be no more delay.

 

[dusman]

No, actually, it's because the campaign is doing pretty much all the promotion with their own email list.

We need some hard facts here. When will the list be operational? I posted before that I'm NOT encouraging anyone to sign up on a list we can't use.

We need to set up a process. When we want to send an email out, it should go out. We need Sentinelrv to be in charge of when the emails go out. We need you to put the ability to do this in his hands.

As things stand, it's my opinion that the email sign-up should be switched to feedburner on the TeaParty site so that there will be no more delay.

We've been discussing it all day and think we have a solution. We've at least got the pledge count once again accurate on the site, just need to update the pledge by day functionality.

I'm not sure what you mean by a list that can't be used. It is being used. Our promotional initiatives, such as getting web sites to publish the widgets, having people use social media and post on YouTube doesn't need to be dependent on the list-building, because the pledge feature is still functional and at this point, corrected.

Will has done a fantastic job with the e-mail campaigning, so we're going to keep it in his hands. Sentinel does a great job managing the promotional efforts and coordinating them here. Remember this is a team effort and each person has their designated roles.

 

[nathanielyao]

So here is the latest update with the lists as I understand it. There was attempt to merge the two lists for BTO and TP11, but unfortunately it affected the pledges to the TP11 list. There was some difficulty trying to separate the lists again without affecting the people who were pledged to TP11. They finally were able to separate them this afternoon. The original BTO list has now been restored intact. The TP11 list has been cleaned of all the previous BTO pledges that were merged with it. So the lists are now separated again.

The original concern was that people who are subscribed to both list will end up getting two emails each time an email was sent out. This will cause more people to inadvertently mark the emails as spam. Too many spam complaints and the account being used to maintain the lists will be closed automatically and both lists will be lost. That was why the list was merged in the first place. However, a solution to this this evening that would allow both lists to be kept separate and prevent duplicate emails.

There is an email right now that is being crafted that will be sent to the BTO list ASAP (I've seen parts of the email so this is definitely happening). As people pledge to the TP11 list, they will be removed from the BTO lists. Both lists should be available for the future as well. Hope this helps to answer any questions.

No, actually, it's because the campaign is doing pretty much all the promotion with their own email list.

We need some hard facts here. When will the list be operational? I posted before that I'm NOT encouraging anyone to sign up on a list we can't use.

We need to set up a process. When we want to send an email out, it should go out. We need Sentinelrv to be in charge of when the emails go out. We need you to put the ability to do this in his hands.

As things stand, it's my opinion that the email sign-up should be switched to feedburner on the TeaParty site so that there will be no more delay.