11/11/11 - "Bring Them Home" (BTH) Moneybomb - Idea Thread

[realtonygoodwin]

The focus of everything we do from here on out, needs to be on expanding the base. We will not win if we don't.

 

[lucent]

The focus of everything we do from here on out, needs to be on expanding the base. We will not win if we don't.

We get money to the campaign so the campaign can expand the base. If the campaign doesn't get enough money, this whole thing is over.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

Yes but.
The campaign has been getting money, and spending it on these great ads and everything...and the base hasn't grown in the last couple months. Growth has been stagnant at best. Bring them home reminds rank and file Republicans that they don't like him.

 

[lucent]

Yes but.
The campaign has been getting money, and spending it on these great ads and everything...and the base hasn't grown in the last couple months. Growth has been stagnant at best. Bring them home reminds rank and file Republicans that they don't like him.

If his support doesn't go up, then it doesn't go up. He currently has an anti-war ad running in various States. It is apart of his platform and you are going to have to deal with it. He isn't going to censor what he is running on just to get more votes and neither are we.

 

[pacodever]

If his support doesn't go up, then it doesn't go up. He currently has an anti-war ad running in various States. It is apart of his platform and you are going to have to deal with it. He isn't going to censor what he is running on just to get more votes and neither are we.

Agreed. The troops support Ron BECAUSE he is against unconstitutional wars, nation building, and unsustainable military adventurism. Rank and file Republicans who support that type of policy will NEVER support Ron Paul. Don't separate his message from the money bomb.

Also, be careful with the military symbols you use. Yellow ribbons are good as blue and gold stars used appropriately. But please DO NOT use P.O.W., M.I.A., or military awards or decorations for promotion, unless you are highlighting Ron's. Many veterans would find that offensive.

 

[RIPLEYMOM]

What a great idea, and starting now is insightful. Can a short video be attached to the embeddable ticker? Or, can the statistic showing military contributions be displayed on the ticker?

The case for the desperateness of America's small but numerative contribution record to Paul needs to get out there. What is that saying? Out of many, comes one?

 

[lucent]

So anyone want to volunteer to get a domain and start working on the website?

 

[chris41336]

I agree about needing to expand the base but I disagree about this moneybomb being more polarizing.

There are tons of rank-and-file republicans who want our troops to come home. Hell, I'm sure a lot of them have family over there. This isn't anti-troop. This is simply about having our families together and our soldiers who have been fighting hard d come home and help defend us here where it matters, like on ouur border.

Also, I think we have decided on the yellow ribbons. Whoever said they were overused has been overruled =P haha.

 

[PatriotOne]

Bring Them Home theme fabulous. Yellow ribbons...not fabulous. I have always wondered why "yellow" ribbons were used to Support our Troops. Colors have meaning in the subconscious of people.....

In the English language, yellow has traditionally been associated with jaundice and cowardice.[5] Yellow is associated with the word "caution" and is the second light on stop lights. The color is associated with aging as well, for both people and objects (e.g. "yellowed" paper). Ethnographically, the term "yellow" has been used as a slang term for both Asians ("yellow peril") and, in the early 20th century, light-skinned African-Americans (High yellow).

"Yellow" ("giallo"), in Italy, refers to crime stories, both fictional and real. This association began in about 1930, when the first series of crime novels published in Italy had yellow covers. The term "yellow movie" (黃色電影) can refer to films of pornographic nature in Chinese culture, and is analogous to the English "blue movie".[6] Lastly, it is associated with sensational journalistic practices, or yellow journalism, and resistance to militant trade unions.[7]

In the United States yellow is also associated with the Libertarian Party

In the United States, a yellow dog Democrat was a Southern voter who consistently voted for Democratic candidates in the late 19th and early 20th centuries because of lingering resentment against the Republicans dating back to the Civil War and Reconstruction period. Today the term refers to a hard-core Democrat, supposedly referring to a person who would vote for a "yellow dog" before voting for a Republican.

 

[chris41336]

Did someone register bringthemhome2012.com from this site already today? Apparently someone registered the domain TODAY after it was mentioned in this thread. It would be nice to know it wasn't a troll and was someone who was trying to help, lol.

 

[parocks]

This has been settled for a long time

The donation page for Veterans Day Moneybomb is up and done
The facebook page for Veterans Day Moneybomb is up and done

The theme is basically - look at this good looking picture of Ron Paul in uniform.

Sounds good to me. Since this clearly was discussed before, and been settled, it's pretty simple.

http://vetsforpaul.com/
Ron Paul's Veterans Day Moneybomb 11.11.11
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-Support-The-Troops-Moneybomb-planning-thread
Support The Troops Moneybomb

 

[PatriotOne]

Blue ribbons on the other hand...............

Culture and the Meaning of Blue:

In many diverse cultures blue is significant in religious beliefs, brings peace, or is believed to keep the bad spirits away.
Blue conveys importance and confidence without being somber or sinister, hence the blue power suit of the corporate world and the blue uniforms of police officers. Long considered a corporate color, blue, especially medium and darker blues, is associated with intelligence, stability, unity, and conservatism. Just as seeing red alludes to the strong emotions invoked by the color red, feeling blue or getting the blues represents the extremes of the calm feelings associated with blue, i.e. sadness or depression, lack of strong (violent) emotion. Dark blue is sometimes seen as staid or stodgy — old-fashioned.

In Iran, blue is the color of mourning while in the West the something blue bridal tradition represents love.

 

[XTreat]

When I table my first talking point is ending the wars. Almost everyone agrees with me and this is not a polarizing policy it is a SELLING point. 70% plus of the country wants to end the wars. Only 1 candidate wants to do that.

 

[harikaried]

We get money to the campaign so the campaign can expand the base. If the campaign doesn't get enough money, this whole thing is over.

Absolutely. Get the campaign donations now from everyone including Democrats and Independents to help the campaign run ads targeting the primaries.

However, we should still consider the effect on the Republican voters, and we can tailor the message to focus on cutting spending. Tie it back to the Plan to Restore America - "save US $800 billion!"

 

[lucent]

This has been settled for a long time

The donation page for Veterans Day Moneybomb is up and done
The facebook page for Veterans Day Moneybomb is up and done

The theme is basically - look at this good looking picture of Ron Paul in uniform.

Sounds good to me. Since this clearly was discussed before, and been settled, it's pretty simple.

http://vetsforpaul.com/
Ron Paul's Veterans Day Moneybomb 11.11.11
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-Support-The-Troops-Moneybomb-planning-thread
Support The Troops Moneybomb

So how many viral YouTube videos do you think you can make with the theme of Ron Paul in a uniform?

If you haven't noticed, people talking about "Bring Them Home" don't care for vetsforpaul.com. Quit trying to push it. You act as if the grassroots has leaders that we must listen to and that these dictators have "settled" this.

 

[parocks]

So how many viral YouTube videos do you think you can make with the theme of Ron Paul in a uniform?

If you haven't noticed, people talking about "Bring Them Home" don't care for vetsforpaul.com. Quit trying to push it. You act as if the grassroots has leaders that we must listen to and that these dictators have "settled" this.

Me personally? I could make a bunch. But one thing that Ron Paul supporters like to do is make videos.

The grassroots does reach a consensus, and then acts on it. There are defacto leaders, sometimes certain people can make consensus. Right now, I'd argue that if Gage and Dusman and Justin Pagewood got together on this and came up with something a little different, but still in the spirit of the thread where this has been discussed and settled, I'd be good with that.

The grassroots doesn't particularly want its projects that are moving forward in a collaborative way to be distrupted by people who do not seem to be helpful.

Share your thoughts on the existing thread.

We get it, you'd prefer a theme more in keeping with antiwar sensibilities. Others wish to play up that Ron Paul is a veteran, and that Ron Paul gets the most money from active duty military.

I'd argue that we've made enough bold moves for the antiwar left, and that we should work on getting Likely Republican Primary Voters.

We just had an energizing, but risky, moneybomb, and a safer, more traditional moneybomb is a nice balance.

But this was all decided a week or 2 ago. A functioning site is working. If improvements in design are required, dusman could make the site look like the bto site.

I'm in favor of plastering Ron Pauls pic in a uniform all over the internet.

 

[lucent]

Me personally? I could make a bunch. But one thing that Ron Paul supporters like to do is make videos.

The grassroots does reach a consensus, and then acts on it. There are defacto leaders, sometimes certain people can make consensus. Right now, I'd argue that if Gage and Dusman and Justin Pagewood got together on this and came up with something a little different, but still in the spirit of the thread where this has been discussed and settled, I'd be good with that.

The grassroots doesn't particularly want its projects that are moving forward in a collaborative way to be distrupted by people who do not seem to be helpful.

Share your thoughts on the existing thread.

We get it, you'd prefer a theme more in keeping with antiwar sensibilities. Others wish to play up that Ron Paul is a veteran, and that Ron Paul gets the most money from active duty military.

I'd argue that we've made enough bold moves for the antiwar left, and that we should work on getting Likely Republican Primary Voters.

We just had an energizing, but risky, moneybomb, and a safer, more traditional moneybomb is a nice balance.

But this was all decided a week or 2 ago. A functioning site is working. If improvements in design are required, dusman could make the site look like the bto site.

I'm in favor of plastering Ron Pauls pic in a uniform all over the internet.

It won't be successful. Just as it wasn't successful in 2007. You know your idea has been tried. It failed because it is horrible marketing. To get people motivated into doing something, whether it is donating or spreading the word, you need to invoke an emotional response. "Paul was a Veteran" and "Paul got the most donations from the military" are both bland.

If you haven't noticed, dusman and Gage are missing in action. There is no sign of them. Gage is ever barely around to begin with.

 

[LatinsforPaul]

Bring US Home isn't bad, but I still prefer Bring Them Home.

I prefer "Bring Them All Home"

 

[Carole]

You need to use this graph in a video perhaps?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/ronpaulmilitarydonationsspeakingtimedebates.png

 

[lucent]

I prefer "Bring Them All Home"

That's good, but in a domain bringthemallhome, spells the word mall which looks weird.