11/11/11 - "Bring Them Home" (BTH) Moneybomb - Idea Thread

chris41336 said:
We need to make this moneybomb not even necessarily about support for Ron. This is to support an idea of bringing the troops home because war destroys the family. Ron is just the carrier of this message, and this moneybomb will be all about that.
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I think this is key. There's broad appeal to ending the wars across the country, and raising that money for the campaign to push hard in the early states will get Ron Paul the votes to win the primary.

Another thing that we need to highlight is that if Ron Paul doesn't get the money to win the primary, there will be *no* anti-war candidate! Obama has proven to be weak on anti-war, and the other Republican candidates are even worse.
 
vetsforpaul fails specifically because it focuses too much on Paul and it's vets for. I am not a Vet, and most other Ron Paul supporters aren't Vets. It's disingenuous to think that everyone donating that day is a Vet. Thus I have no motivation to advertise it or donate that day with that kind of theme.

Bring Them Home is so much better. Anyone get a domain yet?
 
I think this is a great idea and Ill discuss the opportunity to do something with my meetup, like Flag waving and general anti-war peaceful protests. There were some people up here handing out Ron Paul for Peace signs for the campaign they can help a bunch too. As soon as we have a really good looking image for this I would like a copy. Also, the yellow ribbon over the heart on a greyscale picture would be awesome just make sure that it doesn't violate Beyond the yellow ribbon usage rights or whatever. Furthermore, the idea someone came up with about BRING - THEM - ALL - HOME would be awesome. I have a meetup to go to on monday and tuesday so i can spread it at both. :-) When we have a graphic for the money bomb/ Vets day rally we should disseminate it very quickly on twitter,facebook, an email to the campaign and so on.
 
What about "Bring US home" as a possible name? The US is a double entendre meaning both "us" as in the troops themselves and U.S. meaning the United States. It puts the moneybomb in a place where the troops are using direct address toward the American people and asking the People to support the troops by allowing them to come home, and it supports the popular message of America protecting itself at home in the United States rather than spreading ourselves thin via unpopular empire-building.

We put yellow ribbons with "Support our troops" and "Bring US home" and "11.11.11" on the strings. (And no, yellow ribbons as a method of conveying troop support and hope for their safe passage home can never be overdone. Pretending that yellow ribbons are overdone would be like telling a woman engagement rings at proposals are overdone. Ron Paul looks classy with a yellow ribbon and looks like a poser with a POW. Comparing the current state of America to the plight of a prisoner of war is obscene, tactless, and repulsive. Ron Paul's foreign policy national defense position is the most misunderstood platform of Ron's campaign, so using a universally understood symbol for American troop support and safe passage home is the most effective way to communicate the message of ending the needless wars and protecting the American homeland where it's most needed: at home.
 
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The campaign could push for it to be an issue by opening up a challenge on Foreign Policy, bring some focus on it by exposing everyone else's subpar records. I think that is even the theme of the next debate as well.
 
BringUShome.com isn't available.
lucent said:
Well, it might confuse people on the date of the moneybomb. Also, they wouldn't come home till 2013 when Paul actually becomes president.
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Haha, 2013 would confuse people even more. You always advertise the election year, not inauguration. Like "change in 2008" wouldn't actually come until 09, but you still promote the election year. And if you start adding 11s to the domain, that gets messy and would look awful on a sign.

I don't really care either way, but someone needs to jump on a domain and run with it. If dusman or whomever wants to use bringthemhome2012, I'm offering.
 
Does anyone know who the RonPaulSignBomb.com organizers are? It'd be nice if they'd get on board this time and coordinate their efforts with the moneybomb.
 
Like the idea and everything... but I would strongly advise against it. It's polarizing, and it will make Paul and us an easy target for the jingoistic media and public. It will be a sure way to turn off many of the voters we need to reach.

It should NOT be a politicized event. We're already holding it on a day with a purpose. It should be about honoring troops. Nothing more. Of course we will understand bringing troops home is our way of honoring and supporting them... but that's a personal issue, and using a controversial personal issue is a sure way to set us back for the nomination process.

NEXT year when we face Obama... that's when we'll need the BTH.

- Darin
 
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Yeah, if you make it about bringing the troops home, you will lose a lot of potential support. Remember, we need to expand the support base, not preach to the choir more.

The message should be, we support the troops, the troops want Ron Paul to be President, so everyone that wants to support the troop should choose Ron Paul.
 
Darin said:
Like the idea and everything... but I would strongly advise against it. It's polarizing, and it will make Paul and us an easy target for the jingoistic media and public. It will be a sure way to turn off many of the voters we need to reach.

It should NOT be a politicized event. We're already holding it on a day with a purpose. It should be about honoring troops. Nothing more. Of course we will understand bringing troops home is our way of honoring and supporting them... but that's a personal issue, and using a controversial personal issue is a sure way to set us back for the nomination process.

NEXT year when we face Obama... that's when we'll need the BTH.

- Darin
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One of Ron Paul's primary platform is ending the wars.

realtonygoodwin said:
Yeah, if you make it about bringing the troops home, you will lose a lot of potential support. Remember, we need to expand the support base, not preach to the choir more.

The message should be, we support the troops, the troops want Ron Paul to be President, so everyone that wants to support the troop should choose Ron Paul.
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A moneybomb is not about expanding the support base. It is about preaching to the choir because it is the choir that donates money. Just supporting the troops doesn't cut it for marketing it towards Ron Paul supporters.
 
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