You're all voting for Johnson so the LP gets matching funds, right?

limequat

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Been out of the forums since Rand dropped out. Was planning to sit this election out, when I read that the LP will be eligible for $10 million in Federal matching funds if Johnson crosses the 5% threshold.

Personally, I like Gary anyway, but isn't getting the LP $10 million a goal we can all get behind?
 
Been out of the forums since Rand dropped out. Was planning to sit this election out, when I read that the LP will be eligible for $10 million in Federal matching funds if Johnson crosses the 5% threshold.

Personally, I like Gary anyway, but isn't getting the LP $10 million a goal we can all get behind?

Vote for the LP candidate so that Weld can get campaign welfare in 2020? I'll pass, thanks.
 
Yep, that's what I'm doing. 5% to Johnson might be the only positive thing out of this election cycle. Doubtful that he hits it though.

I'm also in NY where Hillary is going to crush Trump, despite the fantasies and delusions of the Trump supporters.
 
I am. I hope he gets it. It looked good for a while but now his RCP average is down to 4.7. That's typical for third party candidates close to the vote though.
 
I met a couple of Gary Johnson supporters the other day. An actual couple. They handed me a few stickers and we chatted for a bit. Nice folks.
 
I met a couple of Gary Johnson supporters the other day. An actual couple. They handed me a few stickers and we chatted for a bit. Nice folks.

There are actually Johnson signs all over town here. Both on public corners and in yards. I had nothing to do with them. It was kind of a surprise.
 
Unfortunately his numbers have been dropping in recent polls. I really hope he maintains 5%.
 
My dream scenario is that Johnson wins New Mexico, and Clinton/Trump both come up shy of 270 electoral votes. Then the house votes for Johnson out of spite. President Johnson

This could actually happen and has a probability greater than zero. Next best would be a similar situation with McMullen winning Utah.
 
My dream scenario is that Johnson wins New Mexico, and Clinton/Trump both come up shy of 270 electoral votes. Then the house votes for Johnson out of spite. President Johnson

This could actually happen and has a probability greater than zero. Next best would be a similar situation with McMullen winning Utah.

There's a neocon out in Utah who has an infinitely higher chance of having this happen to him than GJ.
 
If the LP finally qualifies for matching funds with a barely libertarian at all like Johnson as the nominee, what kind of message do you think that sends? What incentive would they have for running a more libertarian candidate in 2020? If the LP ever nominated somebody with enough popular support to win the Presidency, the money would come naturally anyway. If Ron Paul were younger and had run as LP this cycle he would have raised tens of millions easily. Chasing Federal money is a fool's errand that only corrupts the party without any benefit.
 
Nope he's a horrible candidate and a Libertarian should not ask for government handouts.
 
Nothing says "Libertarian" quite like requesting that the State should be used as a means to collect revenue to campaign for elections!!!
 
Nothing says "Libertarian" quite like requesting that the State should be used as a means to collect revenue to campaign for elections!!!

To be fair, the Libertarian candidate should worry about tearing down the funding after obtaining it. It would simply put the LP on more (very small amount more) equal footing with the two major parties. It's the system we live under and it's designed that way for a reason.
 
I voted for him so he wins. But that doesn't look real promising. America would be on such a better path if he did. Demokracy, fuck yeah!
 
Unless someone can post a link here showing any Johnson's statement in opposition to Iraq war from prior to 2003, he will get ZERO support from me.
 
It's his own fault that he's doing so poorly in the polls.

Amen.

And I'm NOT going to vote for Johnson - as specs pointed out, my first thought was "Hey aren't libertarians supposed to be AGAINST federal handouts?"

If they get money this year it will embolden all the kidney-smellers who put Johnson in the nomination to begin with. The last thing anyone needs is reinforcing the idea that Johnson is some kind of answer to our problems.
 
I thought we are doing it so they are on the ballot in 2020? I guess strategically you might not want a libertarian on the ballot in 2020 if Rand Paul becomes the Republican nominee because that would take away votes.
 
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