Writing-in Ron Paul to Win in Iowa, NH, Maine: The Numbers Are There

[James_Madison_Lives]

As the new launch WriteInRon2012.com reports:

In Iowa, 2008, Paul had 11,800-plus votes—or about 10% of the vote—while in 2012 he had over 26,000 votes, a 121% increase. In contrast, interest in Romney in this state collapsed over the same period, with a -0% increase, from 30,021 to 30,015 votes. In New Hampshire Paul’s rise was even more dramatic, going from only about 8% in 2008 to nearly 23% in 2012, a 210% rise, while Romney’s rise was a mere 29%. Maine was so corrupted by rigging that the numbers aren’t completed, but the rise for Paul was meteoric.

Jared Glenn in LewRockwell.com observes "How the GOP Establishment Stole the Nomination From Ron Paul":

Days before the caucuses, Paul held a commanding lead in the polls and all the momentum, with every other candidate having peaked from favorable media coverage and then collapsed under the ensuing scrutiny....For the first time ever, the Iowa GOP changed the final vote count to a secret location . After the caucus, results from 8 precincts (including those with colleges, in a state where Paul won 48% of the youth vote) went missing. Interestingly, these were all precincts Romney lost in 2008. In addition, GOP officials discovered inaccuracies in 131 precincts. Though polling in a comfortable first place, Paul finished third in this non-binding straw poll, behind Romney and Santorum.

And down east in Maine, Glenn tells us:

Ben Swann reported on shenanigans... Even though only 84% of votes had been counted; State GOP Chairman, Charlie Webster, declared Romney the winner over Paul by less than 200 votes. Hancock and Washington Counties hadn't voted yet because Webster cancelled the caucuses due to an impending snowstorm, promising they could vote later and their votes would be counted. The snowstorm never occurred and he later reneged on his promise, telling voters in those counties their votes would not be counted after all. Washington County was Paul's strongest in the state in 2008.

All this is in addition to the ample mathematical evidence of vote-flipping against Paul in Iowa and NH detailed in the study "Evidence of Algorithmic Vote Flipping in GOP Primary Elections" linked at the Von Mises Institute website.

As for whether the votes will be officially counted, this is not as important as having an accurate count proving who actually won. It will be up to the states' electors who vote their conscience and decide which results to honor. WriteinRon2012.com makes a startlingly simple and ingenious proposal: use the absentee ballot to prove your vote, which is paper and can be photocopied. The beauty of Iowa, NH, and Maine is that, population-wise, they are small. With some kind of ground organization it is entirely conceivable that, given proof against the dirty tricks which are likely to be deployed, and given Paul's true numbers, strong, perhaps even winning, write-in votes can be cast.

Such showings would throw a spotlight on these states' election machinery for the next 3 years, perhaps forcing enough reform for Ron or Rand at last get a fair shake in 2016.

 

[rb3b3]

Does anyone know if new York allows for write ins? I'm in long island and I'm writing Ron Paul in regardless!!

 

[RonRules]

Does anyone know if new York allows for write ins? I'm in long island and I'm writing Ron Paul in regardless!!

NY is one of the states where the candidate must file. There's another thread that keeps the Write-In status for all states.

Here's the Write-In strategy for 2012:
http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/our-strategy/

There are two main goals here:
1) To actually win at least ONE state

We believe that at least Iowa can be won. We have to concentrate or time and money efforts on that state, but you can still Write-In Ron where you live. You can also for example Write-In Gary Johnson where he has been removed from the ballot, like recently in Oklahoma. We would prefer ONLY in Iowa that you would Write-In Ron instead of Gary Johnson. Vote for whoever you want in 49 states, but lets please make an effort to win ONE for Ron.

2) To guarantee that your vote will be counted: Use the method described about 1/2 down the page here: http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/our-strategy/
All the forms have been produced and ready to use:
http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/forms/

Iowa is winnable and this will open up the path to liberty candidates in 2016.

 

[dntrpltt]

NY is one of the states where the candidate must file. There's another thread that keeps the Write-In status for all states.

Just a quick thought off the top of my head, in the states that have Sore Loser Laws, what are the possibilities of securing the Americans Elect line? Oklahoma, I know, is trying something like this. (Just to be clear, here, I support ballot access and allowing whoever wants to to vote for whoever they want and have it counted, but I probably will not be voting RP in the General.)

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

Does anyone know if new York allows for write ins? I'm in long island and I'm writing Ron Paul in regardless!!

There is a write-in Ron Paul New York campaign, more info here:

http://www.dailypaul.com/254356/write-in-for-ron-paul-campaign-new-york-state

Also don't forget Richard Gilbert is suing to have write-ins counted everywhere regardless, and was/is looking for plaintiffs (just means you are a person from such and such state who wants this change.):

http://www.dailypaul.com/254688/plaintiffs-wanted-so-we-can-write-in-ron-paul-in-all-50-states

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

Just a quick thought off the top of my head, in the states that have Sore Loser Laws, what are the possibilities of securing the Americans Elect line? Oklahoma, I know, is trying something like this. (Just to be clear, here, I support ballot access and allowing whoever wants to to vote for whoever they want and have it counted, but I probably will not be voting RP in the General.)

Keep in mind sore loser laws don't apply to presidential elections, because you are actually voting for electors, not the candidate. Since an elector never ran before he is not a sore loser. Unforeseen good side effect of the electoral college system.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I really don't think this is going to happen. NH and IA are toss up states. Both campaigns are throwing millions of dollars at both states. ME has an even larger problem. Ron Paul has little support there. Plus, some of the ads meant for NH are also reaching people in ME.

 

[RonRules]

ME has an even larger problem. Ron Paul has little support there. Plus, some of the ads meant for NH are also reaching people in ME.

The plan is to concentrate on Iowa, but ME has very strong support for Paul. Without the fraud he clearly won the popular vote, he sweeped the convention, so I don't know what you're talking about.

It's also a way to make the GOP realize that the Liberty movement IS the swing vote. They'll lose IA and NH without us.

 

[nobody's_hero]

I worry that the figures you're using to make this sound possible are only taking into account the people who actually participated in the caucus process.

There are millions of more people who don't participate in the caucuses who will be voting for Romney because the T.V. told them Obama is bad.

 

[Keith and stuff]

The plan is to concentrate on Iowa, but ME has very strong support for Paul. Without the fraud he clearly won the popular vote, he sweeped the convention, so I don't know what you're talking about.

It's also a way to make the GOP realize that the Liberty movement IS the swing vote. They'll lose IA and NH without us.

Most people couldn't care less about the caucuses in Maine so people didn't both to vote. Around 2,000 people voted for Ron Paul in Maine. 2,000 votes isn't going to make a dent in 400,000 votes.

2008 Maine Results:
Obama 421,923
McCain 295,273
Nader 10,636
McKinney 2,900
Barr 251
Baldwin 177
Other 431

 

[RonPaulFever]

I can't wait until election day so this insanity will finally come to an end. This is so embarrassing.

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

I can't wait until election day so this insanity will finally come to an end. This is so embarrassing.

wait until a loaf of brad costs 20 bucks and dollars are worthless. That will be even more embarrassing.

 

[RonRules]

I can't wait until election day so this insanity will finally come to an end. This is so embarrassing.

Without this kind of discord, we can surely get people in 49 states to help win Iowa for Ron. This is entirely doable, but we need cohesion, not divisiveness.

Visualize this important success and help those that want to get this done. Meanwhile in all other 49 states, vote for who you want.

This effort is totally reasonable.

 

[69360]

A tiny percentage of voters in the general election participate in the primary. Usually less than 1%. There is absolutely no way on earth what you are proposing will be successful and Ron Paul as a write in could win a state. If he breaks 1% that would success.

 

[Uriah]

The title of this thread says.."the numbers are there". Umm, no they are not. Not here in Iowa. Obama and Romney will spend millions here in my home state alone. Iowa is a swing state. The political world is still extremely divisive. It's red or blue, Republican or Democrat, Romney or Obama. This write-in campaign would have to spend hundreds of thousands if not millions just to get enough Iowans aware they could write in Ron Paul. Then there is this nagging question to be asked -- Would they write-in Ron Paul? Well, that's gonna take millions more to convince enough Iowans to vote something other than the party line. As much as I would love to see Ron Paul win a state to make a statement -- it's not going to happen, barring something catastrophic.

I mentioned in another thread here, Iowa allows straight-ticket voting. Which means, put a mark next to "Republican", and you've just voted for every Republican on the ballot. Now your ballot is done. I don't have statewide data yet but in one county 27% of voters vote straight ticket. Grandma and grandpa don't want to take the time to write in a candidate and then go through the entire ballot, office by office.

This post isn't meant to keep anyone from writing-in Dr. Paul on the ballot. If that is your intention then please don't let me stop you. I am just trying to lay out reality here so folks don't get upset and cry corruption when Paul doesn't win a state as a write-in.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

I'm sorry, but I asked you two in your other thread why not try to get on the ballot instead of write-in, and you never replied. Did you even think about the question? I just wonder how much you've really thought this through. There is virtually no chance of a write-in candidate winning in a state-wide election. It would be unprecedented. Do you realize that? I'm not sure you do. I'm not sure you have a firm grasp on political realities... which is fine and good, by the way, as politics is not the most interesting nor productive thing to be knowledgeable about. But seriously, the numbers are very clearly not there. To put forth a near-impossibility as a virtual done-deal if only we'll all pull together is just sad.

I mean, go for it by all means! The more Iowans you educate for freedom, the better! But please realize that winning a state for Ron Paul is a virtual impossibility, not a virtual certainty.

 

[mport1]

Instead of wasting time, energy, and money on this, why don't we do something more productive that has a better chance at advancing liberty?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Instead of wasting time, energy, and money on this, why don't we do something more productive that has a better chance at advancing liberty?

Go right ahead. Start a thread about your ideas and maybe some people will join in on it.

 

[MelissaCato]

Well, I'm going to see how many Ron Paul write-ins I can get for PA and my county. I thought we did good in 2008. If I can convert all those Mickey Mouse write-in voters to Ron Paul - he will do rather well in my county.

Edit: maybe write a open letter to the Mickey Mouse voters. lol

 

[TrishW]

OP I love your spirit, and wish you success.

I have bounced all over the place on who to vote for this election. For awhile, I was even going to vote for Obama, just to make sure that Romney didn't win. Yes, with me its.. ANYONE BUT ROMNEY! He totally scares me. I think he has no idea of foreign policy, and is very vague when it comes to economic change. I do think he would hurt our nation even more than Obama. But Obama does not need me, he is going to win in a landslide. And then... I was also going to vote for Gary Johnson, but he hasn't any more of a chance to win than Ron Paul.

So the heck with it... I am back to NOBP. I live in Missouri, so its not going to count, but it will sure make me feel good to see his name on my ballot. (even if I have to add it on).

We sure tried, but in the end... we are owned.

+rep and a five star thread Because I can and you deserve it!