Win or Lose

[mcgraw_wv]

Supporting Ron Paul has been a fun, educational experience that I can honestly say, has changed my life forever. He has shaped my politics from here on out. No matter what happens, The message has made a difference, and I will continue to live those principles far beyond This Caucus tonight.

 

[PastaRocket848]

oh for sure. we've already proven in 2008 that this isn't about one election. this is one battle in a long war. we'll keep on truckin' regardless.. but i think we'll be perfectly happy this evening .

 

[JamesButabi]

Supporting Ron Paul has been a fun, educational experience that I can honestly say, has changed my life forever. He has shaped my politics from here on out. No matter what happens, The message has made a difference, and I will continue to live those principles far beyond This Caucus tonight.

I think we can all agree that Ron Paul has touched so many minds and hearts with his campaign. Whether you became aware before the last cycle, during the last cycle, or during this cycle, these campaigns have done a goodwill that will be relevant for our lifetimes.

 

[Athan]

Supporting Ron Paul has been a fun, educational experience that I can honestly say, has changed my life forever. He has shaped my politics from here on out. No matter what happens, The message has made a difference, and I will continue to live those principles far beyond This Caucus tonight.

LOSER TALK! We are going to win!

 

[LibertasPraesidium]

We have already won.

Let it never be said we did nothing, party officials around the country are starting to realize that if they want an energized base of supporters that will work their tails off they have no choice but to elect RP supporters. In this and many other things we are winning.

 

[Rincewind]

We have already won.

Let it never be said we did nothing, party officials around the country are starting to realize that if they want an energized base of supporters that will work their tails off they have no choice but to elect RP supporters. In this and many other things we are winning.

True, but I prefer the kind of winning where you get more votes.

 

[liveandletlive]

Libertarians need to win elections. Neocons merely co-opt certain aspects of of the platform and make a perfunctory effort pushing them, while maintaining the status quo. but i agree with the sentiment of the OP, atleast the seeds of liberty are being planted. Too bad its going to take a complete disaster for people to finally wake up

 

[bluesc]

No lose. Just win.

 

[rblgenius]

ALL RON DOES IS WIN

 

[Xenophage]

Supporting Ron Paul has been a fun, educational experience that I can honestly say, has changed my life forever. He has shaped my politics from here on out. No matter what happens, The message has made a difference, and I will continue to live those principles far beyond This Caucus tonight.

Hey there. My last name is also McGraw, and my whole family supports Ron Paul. Our namesake rocks!

 

[Muwahid]

Yeah honestly when it comes to Iowa, we've won either way! Imagine hitting the top three in 08, woulda been amazing, woulda inspired and given hope, I HIGHLY doubt he'd place below second. Second place is victory (according to the MSM especially ) it would be something to be very proud of nontheless, first, well that's even better! But how can he lose? Losing is like 5th.

I know everyones just anxious to see his name up there with a landslide victory - but first, second, or even third.. they can't ignore the good doctor anymore.

 

[louisiana4liberty]

No, we're losers unless we win this election! We must affect the masses to institute real and drastic change. No more status quo.

 

[Forty Twice]

I feel fantastic about our strategic position now. Whether RP wins or loses Iowa is not so important. (Btw, I think RP will win Iowa and get over 30%.)

Big picture-wise, everyone now knows Ron Paul has a significant following. A strong following who knows Ron Paul is way out of the 2012-era Mainstream Washington
Republican way of thinking. A strong following who sees no difference between W or Obama or Romney or Santorum or any other Republican candidate. Ron Paul and
the Liberty Movement are significant now. Back in August they were not.

If Ron Paul is not in the general election, we do not give a damn whether a 2012-era Mainstream Washington Republican candidate or Obama wins. This is our key
strength. Our secondary strength is Mainstream Republican voters' hatred of Obama. They prefer any Republican to Obama. They might prefer Romney to Paul, but
they definitely prefer Paul to Obama. Very key point.

Now our key strategic weakness is that 2012-era Mainstream Washington Republican financiers and talking heads do not prefer Paul to Obama. Gingrich said it this
weekend. Romney and Santorum are too smart to say it but believe it. Goldman Sachs, Exxon, Barclay's, JP Morgan, etc prefer Obama to Paul. Fox News/Limbaugh/
Wall St. Journal/Savage/Drudge/Breitbart/etc will ultimately choose Obama over Paul. They work for the Man.

The big question is what will Mainstream Fly-over Country Republican voters do once they realize these Republican primaries are a choice between Paul and
Obama? They won't be happy that we are "putting a gun to their heads". But to me, it's simply blow-back for the past 25 years of unpleasant choices we have had to make. I don't feel sorry for them. In the end, I am pretty sure they will side with Paul.