Will RFK Jr. get a Democrat or Republican president elected?

[Firestarter]

I think that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running as an “independent” candidate will decide who gets elected US president next year.

If RFK Jr. message appeals to Democrat voters he will take potential voters from the Democrat candidate for president, so will help get the Republican candidate elected.
If RFK Jr. message appeals to Republican voters he will take potential voters for the Republican candidate for president, so will help get the Democrat candidate elected.


My primary reason to believe that RFK Jr. will help get Trump (or DeSantis?) elected, is that he was obviously talking about possibly entering the presidential race with Steve Bannon (who has boasted that the convinced Kennedy to run for president).

I think that it was at the antivaxxer ReAwaken tour in support of warp speed Donald that the idea grew to make Kennedy run for president.
As part of the ReAwaken America show, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. posed for pictures with Trump's dirty trickster Roger Stone and his dismissed NSA Michael Flynn, in July 2021.

Even more interesting is that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is apparently affiliated with the spin doctor of the British royals controlled SCL Group, Steve Bannon, who has claimed credit for making Kennedy run for president.


Kennedy has also received large donations from at least one (former?) Donald Trump donor, Timothy Mellon, who donated $5 million, from one of the top billionaire families in the US..
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...he-elections&p=7190090&viewfull=1#post7190090


Kennedy has stated that he will take more votes from “president” Trump, than from president Biden, according to polls.
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ction-votes-from-donald-trump-than-joe-biden/


Here are 2 examples of Bobby Kennedy Jr. promoting Democrat agenda points.

RFK Jr. on how a federal ID could fix immigration and election fraud

https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702705618497474714
to: https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1702706052633186418

 

[acptulsa]

Elected?

I don't think he has a great deal to say in the selection process.

 

[Philhelm]

Trick question, since the Democrat will be elected no matter what, so long as Trump is the Republican nominee. If anything, RFK's involvement will be used to obfuscate the fraudulent ballot data. If the news starts reporting that RFK will mostly siphon votes from Trump, we are likely being primed to explain the fraudulent outcome (as with the "Red Mirage").

 

[Firestarter]

Trick question, since the Democrat will be elected no matter what, so long as Trump is the Republican nominee. If anything, RFK's involvement will be used to obfuscate the fraudulent ballot data. If the news starts reporting that RFK will mostly siphon votes from Trump, we are likely being primed to explain the fraudulent outcome (as with the "Red Mirage").

It looks to me like your theory fits in with the "RFK Jr. won’t have an influence on who gets elected president" option...

 

[Snowball]

The Dems are going to rig it again.

Votes don't matter. It's just a scam.

We'll never know how the people really voted again.

 

[oyarde]

It looks to me like your theory fits in with the "RFK Jr. won’t have an influence on who gets elected president" option...

Since I agree withh Phil thats what I went with

 

[69360]

I honestly have no idea. These are strange times we live in. Biden and Trump have the lowest combined approval ratings in history for presidential candidates. Anything might happen.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Democrats will push the narrative that RFK has more in common with conservatives and it's actually the Republican vote that is actually split and not the Democratic vote.

 

[69360]

Democrats will push the narrative that RFK has more in common with conservatives and it's actually the Republican vote that is actually split and not the Democratic vote.

Maybe, but if Kennedy goes with the LP and has 50 state ballot access with polling to qualify for the presidential debates, he will control his own narrative. There is a small potential for a 3 way race. We have never had 2 candidates as unpopular as Trump and Biden.

 

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/EchelonInsights/status/1708875113733443684

 

[acptulsa]

We have never had 2 candidates as unpopular as Trump and Biden.

We never have. And we haven't had a third party candidate who was Kennedy-level famous since Theodore Roosevelt's Bull Moose run.

 

[Working Poor]

God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven,

 

[Philhelm]

It looks to me like your theory fits in with the "RFK Jr. won’t have an influence on who gets elected president" option...

Not quite, since the new Ross Perot will be used (perhaps unwittingly) for more shell game shenanigans with fraudulent votes. It won't be the cause of the election fraud but it will help shield it.

 

[Firestarter]

I honestly have no idea. These are strange times we live in. Biden and Trump have the lowest combined approval ratings in history for presidential candidates. Anything might happen.

That should make it easier to manipulate next year’s presidential election, because if RFK doesn’t get enough votes, he won’t have enough impact.
Unless of course the preferred candidate is so hated that he’ll never get enough votes, no matter how hard they try…

I’m not sure about which way Kennedy will (try to) spin the election though.

 

[Firestarter]

Democrats will push the narrative that RFK has more in common with conservatives and it's actually the Republican vote that is actually split and not the Democratic vote.

I really think that it is up to Kennedy. He can choose which propaganda to tell.

If a simple guy like me can figure this out, than surely RFK, Bannon, Roger Stone and Dennis Kucinich know.

If RFK Jr. message appeals to Democrat voters he will take potential voters from the Democrat candidate for president, so will help get the Republican candidate elected.
If RFK Jr. message appeals to Republican voters he will take potential voters for the Republican candidate for president, so will help get the Democrat candidate elected.

 

[Firestarter]

Please don’t ask me to explain the wider agenda, with Jeff Bezos’ buddy Gavin de Becker a big donor to RFK Jr. and then getting his millions back by leading Kennedy’s security.
And now this story from Bezos’ Washington Post that really, truly Kennedy (while being first pushed into the spotlight by the “right wing” media) will take more votes from Trump than from Biden as an independent candidate, because he’s more popular (or less unpopular) among Republicans.

There are no reliable polls on the impact of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running for president as independent candidate would have on a potential Biden against Trump election.

According to the Quinnipiac poll, only 14% of Democrats have a favourable opinion of RFK, compared to 57% who have an unfavourable one. He has become more despised by Democrats since he first announced running for president.
Democrats described him with “crazy,” “dangerous,” “insane,” “nutjob,” “conspiracy” and “crackpot”.

Republicans on the other hand, like Kennedy better than many of the top GOP presidential candidates: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ation-robert-f-kennedy-jr-could-now-backfire/

 

[Snowball]

Monday.

Philly.

Watch.

 

[Anti Globalist]

I really think that it is up to Kennedy. He can choose which propaganda to tell.

If a simple guy like me can figure this out, than surely RFK, Bannon, Roger Stone and Dennis Kucinich know.

Except MSM will be heavily censoring him every time he says he's a Democrat. He's also not doing himself any favors when he's advocating for free market solutions which doesn't attract any Democratic voters.

 

[Firestarter]

Except MSM will be heavily censoring him every time he says he's a Democrat.

I've seen several articles that RFK running independent will take votes away from poor, poor Donald Trump, up against the whole deep state that gives him so much publicity that it's almost like Donald is the only one running for president...

That looks to be supportive for Trump to me.

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He's also not doing himself any favors when he's advocating for free market solutions which doesn't attract any Democratic voters.

As far as I can tell the "best" way Kennedy can attract Biden votes (and NOT Trump voters) is by going full steam green electricty...
There is a rumour that he will run "independent" for the Green Party (to ensure that he won't take any votes from poor, poor Donald).

 

[Firestarter]

It’s certainly possible, but all of these stories that poor, poor Donald (up against the whole deep state globalists that give him all of this free publicity) will lose the election because of RFK Jr. running for president, certainly won’t harm his popularity.

According to some recent poll, Biden loses only 5% of votes among Democrats while Trump loses 10% among Republicans, because of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running for president.

This would make Biden win comfortably with 44% of the vote to Trump’s 37%, followed by Kennedy’s 16% with 3% undecided (so Biden would win regardless of the RFK votes, which Huffpost “forgets” to report): https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-destroying-121740419.html