Will Common Core sink Bush?

[Warlord]

Jeb Bush’s Common Core problems may just be getting started.

Karl Rove has already said the former Florida governor’s support for the set of nationalized education standards will be his biggest challenge in seeking the GOP presidential nomination. His likely rival, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), has predicted it will doom Bush in the primaries.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/229828-will-common-core-sink-bush

 

[Lucille]

If ObamneyCare didn't sink Romney, then Commie Core won't sink Bush.

Republicans voters will go with whoever the media tells them is electable (even when they're not) like they always do. We're already hearing the electable canard from our boomer parents, even though that strategy has failed them the last two elections.

 

[Dianne]

Probably not, because I would wager 75% of the voters don't know what common core is. We have an electorate of retards, fed poisons by Monsanto aka the Federal Government.. 75% of the voters have no clue what common core is, nor do they care.

 

[TheTexan]

Common what? Shrug.

 

[DamianTV]

Probably not, because I would wager 75% of the voters don't know what common core is. We have an electorate of retards, fed poisons by Monsanto aka the Federal Government.. 75% of the voters have no clue what common core is, nor do they care.

Just watch a couple of Mark Dice videos and your point will be proven exactly true. People are willing to sign petitions to repeal the Bill of Rights, First Amendment, End Womens Suffrage (like the Right to Vote is a bad thing), and continue to think anything they are told to believe. Such as Martin Luther King, the first Black Man on the moon, passed away yesterday at the age of 93. John F Kennedy was not a President of the United States, but President of Verizon Inc and helped lay the framework for the cell phone revolution. People are retarded because they ahve been programmed to be retarded. But lets address this more and understand why.

School is Indoctrination. They teach Obedience. But it is what they do not teach that is the most critical. Schools do not teach to Think. Students are taught Input Output and to not alter or challenge the information in any way. True thinking is a three step process: Input, Think, Output. And that crucial step of Thinking is what is completely eliminated, and outright looked down upon. Having worked in film and TV for a good number of years, I can tell you some storytelling psychology and why Infotainment benefits from what our students are taught. It isnt always conspiracy (insert mandatory giggles here), but simple psychology. When we are told a story we know to be fictional, we Suspend our Disbelief of the fictional in order to enjoy the story. When this is enforced in Schools and Thinking is punished, the ability of the Students to Suspend their Disbelief causes them to accept any information as True without challenge. The result is that these Students who become tomorrows generation of either Leaders or Factory Workers / Unemployed believe anything they are told to believe, even the most exceptionally ludicrus ideas. Unicorns went extinct in the 19th century due to the expansion of industries which displaced them from their natural enviornments. Mermaids are real (History Channel Mockumentary, look it up on Youtube). When these people are presented information that benefits the Status Quo, they merely accept what they are told to accept. This is called a Monopoly on Belief. It is repeated by the MSM day in and day out where people are told What to Think but not HOW to Think. These people, due to the Monopoly on Belief continue to accept ideas without challenge such as American Exceptionalism, Violence by Govt is always Legitmate, and the Value of Fiat Currency has a constant set in stone value and is not subjective at all. They are told that Men are Disposable, Women are Princesses, and Men are worth nothing without the Validation by a Princess. They are told that those who control the word of God always have their best interests in mind, and the Church is incorruptable whereby Men throw themselves on swords and spears alike falsely believing that when a Church absolves Govt of any sins, they will also be free of sin when they carry out the demanded Violence of the Govt.

Schools also create Cognative Dissonace, where particular world views cause nothing but opposing and irreconcilable ways of thinking. For example, life is valuable and murder is the worst of all crimes, while simultaneously being told to accept murder of Brown People or any the Govt decrees to be a Perceptible Threat is absolutely valid. On the Republican side, this is the same as saying Abortion should be illegal, but we need more WAR. Democrats take the opposite stance where we should allow Abortion should be legal and we should not go to War. Murder is Murder, and the Illusion of Choice offered by both sides creates Cognative Dissonance where life is only sometimes treated as the most precious thing. The conflicting information prevents people from trying to challenge any information and causes them to accept more information from whom ever is the talking head of the moment as a means by which to resolve the conflict of ideas. To control all of ones ideas is a total Monopoly on Belief, just as the strongarm of the Govt uses its Monopoly on Violence to enforce unjust laws, and its Monopoly on Money to pay for enforcing this Violence.

Schools become Indoctrination Centres because they enforce a Monopoly on Belief in all that they blindly see and deafly hear in order to deprive a person of the ability to rationally and logically challenge any ideas for themselves. People who do not think will never discover for themselves if an idea is flat out wrong.

There may be a solution to this. And that is to become the teachers and educate people to think and to challenge ideas by rewarding them any time they try to break free of their own cognative dissonace created by our Prussian Indoctrination System. Although we may disagree with their conclusions, I think it is always to our benefit to encourage the behaviours that we do want to see in others. When thoughts and ideas are challenged and not simply accpeted or rejected without logic, that type of behavior needs to be strongly rewarded as a means to persuade people to allow Input, Think, Output.

Will Common Core Sink Bush?

I suspect Dianne is absolutely correct in that too many have no clue what Common Core is. Common Core only teaches Cognative Dissonance in all of its methods of presenting information, yet too many are too stupid to realize this and it will have zero effect on the outcome. When voters run to the polls to vote, they will think about more about the promises made by a particular candidate and observe their emotional responses to that candidate. The logical parts of their minds are flat out broken, and they resort to voting for what ever makes them feel best. Dogs will befriend the masters that promise the most treats.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Doubtful.

If more people would organize at the local level then it would be possible. The problem is that they just aren't doing that. And those who are don't have the numbers so late in the game. Waaaay too much has been politicized about it in the form of op-eds and news pieces and spew from msm on the boob tube but people just haven't tried to tackle common core at the local level where it needs to happen. Physically. And it can be done. I've seen it done. Poking the like button on some activists facebook page doesn't get it done. And it won't.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I wish it would, but it wont. The 'establishment pick' could be a full retard nazi goose-stepping down Pennsylvania Avenue with swastika flags and the dingbat zombie set will vote for them because that's who the leaders want.

 

[EBounding]

Doubtful.

If more people would organize at the local level then it would be possible. The problem is that they just aren't doing that. And those who are don't have the numbers so late in the game.

This is why I'm not all that enthusiastic about Rand running for president right now (I'm supporting him if he does though). The federal government is really a reflection of the state and local governments. Until there's a substantial change at the local/state level, it's unlikely someone like Rand will be nominated, IMO.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

This is why I'm not all that enthusiastic about Rand running for president right now (I'm supporting him if he does though). The federal government is really a reflection of the state and local governments. Until there's a substantial change at the local/state level, it's unlikely someone like Rand will be nominated, IMO.

I hate to be mean, but that is entirely the fault of the slackers in our movement. 100% totally our fault. In 2008 we had 320 people at the State convention. 250 of those dropped out and in 2009 we picked up a new 200 and had 300. 250 of those dropped out, and for 2010 we picked up a new 200 or so and had 250.

All these people who dropped out every year, had they stuck around we'd own the party 100% top to bottom.

We aren't in charge now, because our people just don't want it bad enough. It sucks, but it's totally 100% true. It is entirely and completely our fault for being slackers.

 

[jjdoyle]

I hate to be mean, but that is entirely the fault of the slackers in our movement. 100% totally our fault. In 2008 we had 320 people at the State convention. 250 of those dropped out and in 2009 we picked up a new 200 and had 300. 250 of those dropped out, and for 2010 we picked up a new 200 or so and had 250.

All these people who dropped out every year, had they stuck around we'd own the party 100% top to bottom.

We aren't in charge now, because our people just don't want it bad enough. It sucks, but it's totally 100% true. It is entirely and completely our fault for being slackers.

Maybe in SOME places, but certainly isn't true for all places. When our people were involved in 2012 and following the GOP's own rules, they were harassed, assaulted, and arrested. The GOP brought in their own people to maintain control, and made sure the "threat" was dealt with.

We aren't in charge now, because the GOP powers that be made sure it (we) wouldn't be a problem. Ask the delegates from Maine. Ask the delegates from Louisiana. Ask the supporters that participated at events that were 100% sabotaged and controlled by the GOP, even if that meant the GOP local operatives lied, shut down the meetings, or canceled them.

I can't see how this is 100% our fault, as the the system is rigged as a two party system and we can't get to the top, and they have plenty of firewalls in place to prevent their power from shifting.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Maybe in SOME places, but certainly isn't true for all places. When our people were involved in 2012 and following the GOP's own rules, they were harassed, assaulted, and arrested. The GOP brought in their own people to maintain control, and made sure the "threat" was dealt with.

We aren't in charge now, because the GOP powers that be made sure it (we) wouldn't be a problem. Ask the delegates from Maine. Ask the delegates from Louisiana. Ask the supporters that participated at events that were 100% sabotaged and controlled by the GOP, even if that meant the GOP local operatives lied, shut down the meetings, or canceled them.

I can't see how this is 100% our fault, as the the system is rigged as a two party system and we can't get to the top, and they have plenty of firewalls in place to prevent their power from shifting.

OK a rephrase. Not 100% our fault, but we sure as hell could 100% own the Party right now if not for all the hoards of people who dropped out after a single year. Every single year.

 

[philipped]

Poking the like button on some activists facebook page doesn't get it done. And it won't.

+rep

 

[Natural Citizen]

+rep

Thank You. But when I say it needs to be approached at the local level, I'm talking about parents becoming involved directly with local schools and their classroom infrastructure. Not so much politicians and whatnot. The problem with that is that most parents just don't know enough to question. Heck, most just think that what they are seeing in their child's textbooks and classroom work is just some new hi-tech way of teaching and they just don't take the time to really look at the material itself.

I'm kind of mixed on it. You could almost compare Common Core approach to Ron Paul curriculum in so far as the technological infrastructure and physical methods are similar but from what I've seen with common core it is the physical material that is a major problem for me. Or the references used to create a path of logic. I've seen some very questionable propaganda inserted into the curriculum itself. And the problem there is that the actual program is very good. And so it is very easy to streamline it to students who are essentially able to self teach before they ever enter the front doors of any school building. They are technologically capable of doing that. And this makes it easier for the wrong people to author some of the material and then the kid just rolls with it.

 

[DamianTV]

How about if we take the Responsibilty of Education away from ALL forms of Government and make that responsibility belong to the Family?

 

[jjdoyle]

OK a rephrase. Not 100% our fault, but we sure as hell could 100% own the Party right now if not for all the hoards of people who dropped out after a single year. Every single year.

How? The GOP removed certain delegates and didn't seat them, and appointed their own "chosen ones" in certain positions of power. If they see a threat, they deal with it. Even if that means breaking their own rules. They have many firewalls in place, and the 10 fat men making the decisions don't care who LOOKS like they own the party, because they are the ones that REALLY own and CONTROL the party.

Taking over local Republican groups won't stop the fake conservative/neocons from running candidates with budgets we can't touch. So some of us could run and control local Republican groups, but that doesn't mean much when the ones in power will change the rules from the TOP down. Show up at the RNC and you aren't under the OFFICIAL GOP list? Don't get seated, or admitted to it.

Maine's Governor didn't even go to the RNC in protest of what happened with Maine's delegates.

Taking over the local Republican Parties would probably do as much REAL damage to the GOP, as Common Core will do to Bush. I would guess not much. Which, both are very unfortunate.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

How? The GOP removed certain delegates and didn't seat them, and appointed their own "chosen ones" in certain positions of power. If they see a threat, they deal with it. Even if that means breaking their own rules. They have many firewalls in place, and the 10 fat men making the decisions don't care who LOOKS like they own the party, because they are the ones that REALLY own and CONTROL the party.

Taking over local Republican groups won't stop the fake conservative/neocons from running candidates with budgets we can't touch. So some of us could run and control local Republican groups, but that doesn't mean much when the ones in power will change the rules from the TOP down. Show up at the RNC and you aren't under the OFFICIAL GOP list? Don't get seated, or admitted to it.

Maine's Governor didn't even go to the RNC in protest of what happened with Maine's delegates.

Taking over the local Republican Parties would probably do as much REAL damage to the GOP, as Common Core will do to Bush. I would guess not much. Which, both are very unfortunate.

When you own the State Conventions you get to pick your own RNC committeeman and committeewoman. It's the RNC Committee that enabled what happened to Maine's delegates. It's the Rules and Credentials Committees that actually ejected the Maine Delegates. If we owned the State Conventions, then we'd be picking our own people for Rules and Credentials.

We did not own Rules and Credentials because we did not have a majority of the State conventions in any but 2 or 3 states. Louisiana was left with their arse hanging in the breeze because the other 47 states couldn't be bothered to show up.

All the positions that created the debacle with Maine being unseated, are selected by the respective State Conventions. All of them. From the membership of the National Committee, to the various committees of the RNC Convention. If we have bothered to show the hell up it would have been OUR people on the RNC Committee. It would have been OUR people on the Rules committee. it would have been OUR people on credentials. Then Maine would have been seated just fine.

 

[jjdoyle]

When you own the State Conventions you get to pick your own RNC committeeman and committeewoman. It's the RNC Committee that enabled what happened to Maine's delegates. It's the Rules and Credentials Committees that actually ejected the Maine Delegates. If we owned the State Conventions, then we'd be picking our own people for Rules and Credentials.

We did not own Rules and Credentials because we did not have a majority of the State conventions in any but 2 or 3 states. Louisiana was left with their arse hanging in the breeze because the other 47 states couldn't be bothered to show up.

All the positions that created the debacle with Maine being unseated, are selected by the respective State Conventions. All of them. From the membership of the National Committee, to the various committees of the RNC Convention. If we have bothered to show the hell up it would have been OUR people on the RNC Committee. It would have been OUR people on the Rules committee. it would have been OUR people on credentials. Then Maine would have been seated just fine.

This is the way it is now. Yes. I have no doubt at all they would change the rules and appoint their own if necessary. They will change the rules as they go, and as they need.