WikiLeaks blows lid off cozy relationship between Sony, federal government

[charrob]

So the 'Fourth Estate' is now a product that is "manufactured" via the collusion of those at the top of the U.S. government with media moguls for the express intent of “creating a narrative”... All the ridiculous hand-waving and herding of people to theatres late last year because North Korea supposedly hacked Sony – it never did ring true for me, although I may be incorrect. -Cannot help but wonder if the government colluded with Sony to quickly create that film (it certainly was a shoddy enough film) immediately following the hack so that the _real_ news (ie. collusion between Sony and Gov’t. to create news ‘narratives’) would be overlooked. I think a Sony employee who saw how unethical and unconstitutional this collusion was/is, was the person who did the hack.

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WikiLeaks recently published and created a database of a trove of more than 30,287 documents and 173,132 emails from last year’s Sony Pictures hack. The anti-secrecy group purports that the leaked documents shed light on how multinational corporations have an “ability to impact laws and policies” and spew government propaganda.

[highlight]“This archive shows the inner workings of an influential multinational corporation. It is newsworthy and at the centre of a geo-political conflict. It belongs in the public domain. WikiLeaks will ensure it stays there,” WikiLeaks editor-in-chief Julian Assange said in a statement.[/highlight]

The document database contains emails that highlight a relationship between Sony CEO Michael Lynton and President Obama and other top U.S. officials.

Motherboard reported that it discovered [highlight]messages between Sony executives and more than 100 U.S. government organizations in the database.[/highlight]

One email, reportedly sent to Sony from State Department undersecretary for public diplomacy and public affairs Richard Stengel, seems to indicate that the federal government was interested in working with the entertainment company to create counter-ISIS propaganda.

The message said:

Michael: It was great to see you yesterday. As you could see, we have plenty of challenges in countering ISIL narratives in the Middle East and Russian narratives in central and eastern Europe. In both cases, there are millions and millions of people in those regions who are getting a skewed version of reality. And it’s not something that the State Department can do on its own ny [sic] any means. Following up on our conversation, I’d love to convene a group of media executives who can help us think about better ways to respond to both of these large challenges. This is a conversation about ideas, about content and production, about commercial possibilities. I promise you it will be interesting, fun, and rewarding. Best, Rick

Lynton responded with contact information for top entertainment executives, including Walt Disney International chairman Andy Bird, former Turner Broadcasting CEO Phil Kent and 21st Century Fox chief operating officer James Murdoch.

The emails also show that Lynton dined with the president and first lady on at least one occasion.

“The President and First lady are delighted that you will be joining them for dinner tomorrow evening,” the first lady’s former chief of staff wrote to the Sony executive. “Cocktails are at 630pm and dinner will be served at 730pm. Please let me know if you have any food allergies, etc, so I can alert the chefs.”

Wikileaks noted that the cozy relationships indicate that Sony’s political influence is considerable.

 

[Deborah K]

Very interesting take on this. Intriguing, actually.

 

[Stratovarious]

I watched 5 minutes of it and went on to something else.

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[Natural Citizen]

So the 'Fourth Estate' is now a product that is "manufactured" via the collusion of those at the top of the U.S. government with media moguls for the express intent of “creating a narrative”... All the ridiculous hand-waving and herding of people to theatres late last year because North Korea supposedly hacked Sony – it never did ring true for me, although I may be incorrect. -Cannot help but wonder if the government colluded with Sony to quickly create that film (it certainly was a shoddy enough film) immediately following the hack so that the _real_ news (ie. collusion between Sony and Gov’t. to create news ‘narratives’) would be overlooked. I think a Sony employee who saw how unethical and unconstitutional this collusion was/is, was the person who did the hack.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-Declaration&p=5827948&viewfull=1#post5827948

charrob, yer on a roll.

Aside - Yes, we are wintnessing some information warfare evolve in the middle of all of this. Fourth Estate, increasingly, echoes the State Department narrative. Of course, I don't consider some of these news entertainment platforms that have become so popular among political "news" junkies to be journalists in any true sense of the term. And, so, that's that, I suppose.

 

[RabbitMan]

All the ridiculous hand-waving and herding of people to theatres late last year because North Korea supposedly hacked Sony – it never did ring true for me, although I may be incorrect. -Cannot help but wonder if the government colluded with Sony to quickly create that film (it certainly was a shoddy enough film) immediately following the hack so that the _real_ news (ie. collusion between Sony and Gov’t. to create news ‘narratives’) would be overlooked.

Are you serious? You think Sony and the U.S. gov't hired Seth Rogen to make another silly film in a long line of silly films to cover up a hack? Whatever you are smoking, I need to get some of that while I watch Seth's "Pineapple Express" which according to your logic may have been a distraction for stoners away from Ron Paul's candidacy. Lol

 

[charrob]

Are you serious? You think Sony and the U.S. gov't hired Seth Rogen to make another silly film in a long line of silly films to cover up a hack?

I'm saying that's a possibility. A more likely possibility is that the film was already in the making, and they used the film to create the narrative that the hack was done by North Korea in order to deflect attention. It was an easy way out.

There are messages between Sony executives and more than 100 U.S. government organizations in this WikiLeak's database. That number is not inconsequential.

Top departments in the U.S. government colluded with Sony over 100 times. Emails proved they colluded to "manufacture narratives" about news. If this many times with Sony, how many times with the rest of the MSM to manufacture "narratives"?

And if you don't believe narratives are being manufactured, please explain why the MSM was virtually silent when Victoria Nuland and Ambassador Pyatt were found with their pants down in Ukraine orchestrating the overthrow of the democratically elected government there. Yes. There _are_ narratives being made and they are being called "news".

I believe that a whistleblower inside Sony did the hack to show the public that the U.S. government was in bed with Sony and to show that, together, they colluded to "manufacture" narratives about the news -- which is what WikiLeaks has now proved.

I truly don't believe North Korea hacked into Sony because of their stupid film. THAT seems implausible to me.

And why was the U.S. government so upset about a hack into a private corporation?

It's important to step back out of the news and examine the meta-news. Why this headline. Why this story. Why is this person always being interviewed. Why this quote, now, out of all the things said by 7 billion people. Is news being reported or manufactured? Unfortunately, I see mostly propaganda, group-think and copy and paste repeating, and little if any "who, what, where, why and how", un-spun, truth seeking journalism.

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[devil21]

LOL@Hollywood acting like they don't know that ISIS is intelligence agency funded and controlled.

CIA in bed with Hollywood (but that's nothing new)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...0721a4-a183-11e4-b146-577832eafcb4_story.html

NEW YORK — The place in Brooklyn looks like a CIA safehouse. Red brick office building with peeling metal awning. No sign. Inside, writers are plotting out the popular Cold War espionage show “The Americans” — one of an assortment of Hollywood spy and national security dramas being driven by ex-spies.

The show’s creator and co-head writer, Joe Weisberg, is a former CIA officer who never fathomed that he would one day sit in an office with Soviet propaganda posters and a cutout figure of President Ronald Reagan, concocting television fiction. more at link

See also:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...s-flap-over-the-movie-quot-The-Interview-quot

 

[charrob]

See also:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...s-flap-over-the-movie-quot-The-Interview-quot

Thanks. Just looked back on there from December. Cindy had it right already back then when she said:

The cowardice runs even deeper. The *excuse* Sony used to pull the movie was concern over the safety of patrons at the theaters.
The conventional wisdom on this was that the corporate bigwigs were worried that the worst and most incriminating emails from the cyber-hack had not been made public.... yet.

So this past week they were made public, via Wikileaks.
And now we see why the corporate bigwigs (and the U.S. government) were worried.
And why they deflected attention.

 

[Stratovarious]

...step back out of the news and examine the meta-news...

What is meta-news ?

This is a 'new to me' term, I've looked it up and found many links but no two sources that agree on what is.


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[charrob]

What is meta-news ? This is a 'new to me' term, I've looked it up and found many links but no two sources that agree on what is.

'Meta-news' is my way of saying: "Why this headline. Why this story. Why is this person always being interviewed. Why this quote, now, out of all the things said by 7 billion people."

In other words, don't just pay attention to the content of the news, but also pay attention to the properties of that content. Why that content is chosen to be in the headlines. Also omission, what's not covered and why, is telling. Kind of like a database record has content, but it also has properties.

The easiest example was the mass bulk surveillance by the telecoms we learned from the Snowden leaks. The collection of phone calls for the most part didn't actually have the content of those calls. But what those records did have was everyone's connections to other people, who people call on a regular basis, how long the calls are, etc. This metadata gives a huge amount of information to the government even though it doesn't include the actual call content.

 

[charrob]

Media - the Fourth Estate

Great example of garbage U.S. propaganda: the “narrative” has been created by completely [highlight]NOT SAYING [/highlight]the most critical component:

• Newsweek states: "Russia is building up forces on its borders with Ukraine, prompting pro-Kiev forces and analysts to predict an impending pro-Russian attack in the near future."
  
• Newsweek does NOT state: That last week the 173rd Airborne Brigade landed in Ukraine for “training” along with $350 million in weapons “gifts” care of the U.S. taxpayer. (That's in addition to the $5 billion taxpayer dollars already paid to foment unrest in that country.)

So Americans reading Newsweek think Russia is being aggressive (even though they’re building up on THEIR side of the border). Americans are NOT being told the reason WHY Russia is building up at their border: ie. the U.S. just landed the 173rd Airborne Brigade there! Who can blame them? What if the Chinese government were on the Canadian border? You don’t think we’d have armies of U.S. troops on our side?

• 173rd Airborne Brigade arrives in Ukraine for 'Fearless Guardian': April 16, 2015 http://www.army.mil/article/146549
  
• Fears of New Offensive as Putin ‘Ramps up Pressure’ on Ukraine: April 24, 2015 http://www.newsweek.com/putin-ramping-pressure-ukraine-border-prompting-fears-new-offensive-324863

In my opinion this is misleading the public to the nth degree -- equivalent to lying. How can Americans choose the correct path to take if they are being lied to about the facts?

 

[Stratovarious]

Sad (as has been said before) when our best news comes from 'leaks' , and RT news...

We killed or were the catalyst for 1 million civilian deaths in Iraq, Israel takes over the Westbank (they are Gods to Congress, Hannity &Fox), we have our Military in
almost every Country in the world, our own Military is getting ready to occupy us right here in the New Third Reich of America , and the mainstream narrative
is that Russia is BAAAADDD!!!!
H#L#, some of the citizens want to be remanded back to Russia anyway, they don't want us there.

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