Why Texas is becoming a major antivaccine battlefield

[jllundqu]

I never suggested that. In the original post I simply asked, "At what point do parents' rights to raise their kids cross the line and become child endangerment?" No one seems to want to answer that, although Merkelstan's post lays out the knee-jerk viewpoints of both extremes.

Forget it.

I posted it earlier and you ignored my post.

I'll say it again. No one, certainly no one in government, can tell me, as the parent, what to inject into my child, period. The rest of your hypotheticals are already covered by criminal law.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Another believes modern medicine is wrong and is willing to treat a child's [appendicitis] [compound fracture] [cancer] with [prayer] [voodoo practices] [St. John's Wort].

There have been many studies showing the positive effects of prayer on healing. Here are excerpts from a literature review:

In another systematic review, Crawford et al.[31] examined the quality of studies of hands-on healing and distance healing that were published between 1955 and 2001. There were 90 identified studies of which 45 had been conducted in clinical settings and 45 in laboratory settings. Crawford et al.[31] reported that 71% of the clinical studies and 62% of the laboratory studies reported positive outcomes;...

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Astin et al.[30] conducted a systematic review of the literature on the efficacy of any form of distant healing as a treatment for any medical condition. A total of 23 trials involving 2,774 patients met the inclusion criteria and were subjected to analysis. Of these studies, 13 (57%) yielded statistically significant treatment effects favoring distant healing, nine showed no superiority of distant healing over control interventions and one showed a negative effect for distant healing.

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Cha et al.[32] found that the women who had been prayed for had nearly twice as high a pregnancy rate as those who had not been prayed for...

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Lesniak[33] described a study on the effect of intercessory prayer on wound healing in a nonhuman primate species. The sample comprised 22 bush babies (Otolemur garnettii) with wounds resulting from chronic self-injurious behavior. These animals were randomized into prayer and control groups that were similar at baseline. Prayer was conducted for 4 weeks. Both groups of bush babies additionally received L-tryptophan. Lesniak[33] found that the prayer group animals had a greater reduction in wound size and a greater improvement in hematological parameters than the control animals. This study is important because it was conducted in a nonhuman species; therefore, the likelihood of a placebo effect was removed.


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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2802370/

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I never suggested that. In the original post I simply asked, "At what point do parents' rights to raise their kids cross the line and become child endangerment?"

People answered your question. Maybe if you'd stopped trolling long enough, you could have a discussion and learn something. Listen more. Talk less.

No one seems to want to answer that, although Merkelstan's post lays out the knee-jerk viewpoints of both extremes.

You talked about "chaining it [a child] to the wall of an unlit tool shed, and feeding it only bread and water for a week," and you say others are talking knee jerk extremes?!

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Another believes modern medicine is wrong and is willing to treat a child's [appendicitis] [compound fracture] [cancer] with [prayer] [voodoo practices] [St. John's Wort].

St John's Wort is modern medicine. Walgreen's sells it. Peer reviewed studies have demonstrated its effectiveness in treating some forms of depression, even as much as prescription drugs. Peer reviewed research also shows it helps with other similar issues, like sleep disorders, anxiety, and a whole laundry list.

It appears to me that uneducated government advocates like you are the ones detrimental to children's well-being.