Why Are Nurses and Healthcare Workers Across the U.S. Refusing Mandatory Flu Vaccines?

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The Truth Behind Flu Shot Mandates for Healthcare Workers

by Claire Dwoskin, Founder, Childrens Medical Safety Research Institute

When you are sick, injured or just need a check-up, you trust that your doctor is giving you valid, conflict-free, evidence-based advice on what is best for your health. The last thing you want to believe is that your doctor is putting a drug company’s interests, or their own, over your health.

What if you discovered that the flu vaccine, or any vaccine, is being given to you or your child without your consent or knowledge, or to a loved one in the hospital at a time when it is contraindicated for his or her condition? What if you learned that your health care providers were, themselves, force-vaccinated against their better judgement just to stay employed? What if these policies were ultimately driven by financial incentives for those who make and enforce them?

The following answers, interspersed with personal stories I have heard directly from parents, patients and healthcare workers, will have you questioning the next time you are faced with vaccine decisions. Protecting your loved ones and your right to informed consent when it comes to any medical procedure that carries with it the risk of injury or death depends on YOU doing your own research. An informed and educated healthcare consumer is the best protection against becoming a statistic in the epidemic of eroding national health.

Uncovering the Facts Behind Mandatory Flu Vaccines for Healthcare Workers

Dr. Meryl Nass, M.D., a 36-year career board certified internal medicine practitioner in Maine, has written extensively about vaccine safety and vaccine policy. She is most well-known for her work with hundreds of Gulf War Veterans who became ill after receiving the anthrax vaccine. Her most recent research has uncovered new information about a nationally imposed flu vaccine policy for healthcare workers. This policy also affects patients at hospitals and in pediatric practices, and general practitioners who are being lobbied, cajoled and sometimes deceived into getting flu vaccines.

Dr. Nass discovered that the Quality Improvement Organizations (QIOs) established by Medicare and organizations like the National Quality Forum, a federally established, public-private health quality assessment organization are created for the purpose of enforcing policies that are selected as “quality improvement” measures, whether or not they improve care or lower costs. They are surrogate measures that can then be used to get institutions to either comply or lose millions of dollars in reimbursements (up to 4% of acute care hospitals’ total Medicare reimbursements). The more employees and patients vaccinated, the higher the reimbursement rate.

In a recent article, Dr. Nass described the complaint and resulting settlement of seven health care workers in Erie, PA who were fired for refusing flu vaccines for religious reasons. They won an EEOC settlement of $300,000 which requires them to be reinstated and receive back pay and compensatory damages for alleged religious discrimination.

The following is an excerpt from a local newspaper that covered the story:

The commission had claimed Saint Vincent violated Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when it fired the six workers, who refused to be vaccinated after the hospital implemented a mandatory flu vaccination policy for all employees. The hospital granted medical exemptions to 14 other workers.

The bottom line is that the federal government squeezed hospitals by requiring hospitals to report the rates of yearly influenza vaccinations of both hospital staff and hospital patients, including these two measures in a global calculation of hospital ‘quality.’ A hospital’s ‘quality’ number determines approximately 3.75% of its overall Medicare reimbursements rate in 2017 (with yearly adjustments to this number). In the healthcare industry, 3.75% is enough to make a hospital sink or swim. The hospitals, predictably, acquiesced by demanding their employees be vaccinated or fired.

This is evidently not so much a health policy, but a transactional policy: mandates are being forced upon employees so that hospitals will reap financial gain. Simply put, your practitioners’ health and autonomy are being used as a bartering tool to increase Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements, which can determine whether a hospital has a profit and loss when margins are slim.

Personal Story #1: Hospital Owner Understands Danger of Flu Vaccine But Keeps Policy Anyway for Funding

Defiant nurses who refuse the flu vaccine and choose instead to be shamed by being forced to wear a mask in order to keep their job.

While at dinner one evening with a friend who owns five small hospitals, we discussed flu vaccines. He mentioned that he had required all of his employees to be vaccinated and he, likewise, took the flu vaccine. Following the mandate, he noticed he was having the highest employee absentee rate ever since owning the hospitals. He presumed that his employees had gotten sick after getting vaccinated.

Why? The hospital owner described becoming terribly ill right after getting his flu vaccine. In retrospect, he wondered why he needed it since he had never gotten the flu before getting the vaccine. He decided the following year that, despite continuing to require that his employees be vaccinated, he would no longer take the risk himself.

Guess what? He continued to notice high absentee rates but he remained healthy that winter. His name and hospital system will remain anonymous, but his experience was not isolated. I have heard from other high level hospital personnel that they also opt out of the flu vaccine.

Who is/are Behind the Flu Vaccine Mandates?

The CDC, already suffering credibility woes on a variety of issues, has another to add to the pile. On their website, they deny they are directly issuing the flu vaccine mandates:

CDC does not issue any requirements or mandates for state agencies, health systems, or health care workers regarding infection control practices, including influenza vaccination. There are no legally mandated vaccinations for adults, except for persons entering military service. CDC does recommend certain immunizations for adults, depending on age, occupation, and other circumstances, but these immunizations are not required by law.

However, the mandates originate from the CDC’s National Health Care Safety Network, a healthcare-associated infection (HAI) tracking system used to generate benchmarks for healthcare institutions. It deems high rates of influenza vaccines among healthcare personnel a surrogate “quality measure” for infection control.

…facilities must report employee coverage rates of flu vaccination as a quality measure: “Currently, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) requires reporting of influenza vaccination coverage for workers in acute care hospitals as a part of the Inpatient Quality Reporting Program through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Health Care Safety Network, a web-based data reporting system using National Quality Forum (NQF) #0431. Each hospital’s influenza vaccination coverage among their health care personnel will be included as a quality measure on Medicare’s consumer-based Hospital Compare program.”

According to Dr. Nass, this scheme, which ultimately requires hospitals and physicians to choose between patient health and profits, can be traced to one person.

It turns out that the same person, Faruque Ahmed, Ph.D. of CDC’s Immunization Services Division, is both the responsible person for getting NQF #0431 (healthcare worker [HCW] yearly flu shots) accepted as a quality measure, and the first author of CDC’s meta-analysis of healthcare worker/healthcare personnel flu shots and whether they benefited patients. Studies over 64 years fail to show that staff vaccinations reduce flu infections and deaths in patients–but good luck figuring that out from the gobbledygook they published.

Dr. Nass further explains that the quality measure was based on statistical modeling techniques that are themselves based on assumptions, estimates, beliefs, and attributions, and that the little evidence they did have was of very low quality. Essentially, she says, it is as if the person grading the test is the test taker himself, and on top of that, he wrote the test and the material he was tested on.

Personal Story #2: Nursing Student Forced to Change Careers Over Flu Shot

A nursing student who was completing her degree was forced to get a flu shot in order to participate in clinical practice experience which was required for graduation. She reported:

I was forced to get a flu shot, which I later found out contained mercury, and I felt sick from it for over a year. I had unexplained fevers on and off, approximately every two weeks. I did a detox treatment aimed at removing the mercury which seemed to resolve my symptoms. I knew I wanted to become pregnant soon and did not want to put my health or that of my unborn child at risk, so I switched careers to avoid having to get the flu shot again.

That bears repeating: she was forced to switch careers, which required abandoning her dreams and her hard-earned education, in order to exercise her trained professional judgement over her own health. A nursing degree typically costs between $40,000 and $100,000; a doctor might incur more than $800,000 in educational expenses, making the cost of refusing to compromise his or her own health an even greater, if not impossible, sacrifice.

So financially, most medical professionals are over a barrel when it comes to refusing a policy that could cost them their job if they refuse. Since the flu shot mandate was not in place when most initially decided upon their career path, today’s experienced healthcare workers must choose between complying or the considerable financial and emotional consequences of fighting for their health freedom.

Read the Full Article at VaccineImpact.com

 

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Dr. Ron Paul has called vaccines "A blessing".

I was forced to get a flu shot, which I later found out contained mercury, and I felt sick from it for over a year. I had unexplained fevers on and off, approximately every two weeks. I did a detox treatment aimed at removing the mercury which seemed to resolve my symptoms. I knew I wanted to become pregnant soon and did not want to put my health or that of my unborn child at risk, so I switched careers to avoid having to get the flu shot again.

If she was concerned and was informed on the subject, she would have known that she could request a mercury free version of the flu shot. There was no reason to quit her education. Vaccines contain such an incredibly small amount of mercury and that type of mercury only has a half life in the body of seven days. If she was sick for over a year, it was not from mercury in her vaccine. The flu vaccine is one of only a couple used in the United States which still does. Vaccines for children don't have any mercury in them.

The flu vaccine with ethyl mercury contains 25 micrograms per dose (ethyl mercury is less toxic than methyl mercury and is easier for the body to get rid of- methyl mercury is the one associated with large fish for example). That is 0.00000025 grams. To achieve hazardous levels of mercury you would need literally thousands of vaccines all at once.


Related: http://www.americansentinel.edu/blog/2015/04/22/the-debate-over-mandatory-flu-vaccines-for-nurses/

Two of the largest nursing unions, American Nurses Association and National Nurses United, have spoken out against mandated flu shots and the threat of termination of employment, while still supporting programs that encourage higher rates of flu vaccination among nurses and other healthcare workers.

Nurses and their unions support vaccination but like Ron Paul say it should not be mandatory.

There are thousands of flu viruses if not millions so getting the flu shot does not guarantee that you won't get the flu- it only offers protection against a few strains. The formula is updated every year to try to anticipate what strains will be the most common.

 

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If she was concerned and was informed on the subject, she would have known that she could request a mercury free version of the flu shot.

I am tired of all the nonsense we as American citizens are being fed while big business - and the government - continue to ignore the health and well-being of the fine people in this country. Why am I all fired up, you ask?

I, like everyone else, took the advice of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) - the government - and received a flu shot. I chose to receive the preservative free vaccine, thinking I did not want any thimerasol (i.e. mercury) that the "regular" flu vaccine contains.

Makes sense, right? Why would any of us want to be injected with mercury if it can potentially cause harm? However, what I did not realize is that the preservative-free vaccine contains formaldehyde.

WHAT? How can you call it preservative-free, yet still put a preservative in it? And worse yet, formaldehyde is a known carcinogen. Yet, here we are, being lined up like cattle and injected with an unsafe product. Within 12 hours of receiving the vaccine, I was in bed feeling miserable and missed two days of work with a terrible cough and body aches.

My anger actually stems from a constant toxic burden that is contributing to the chronic disease epidemic. And yet the government continues to talk out of both sides of its mouth. We want our citizens to be healthy and take full advantage of the best healthcare system in the world (so we think), yet we don't treat our bodies with the love and attention they deserve.

Dr. Daniel Neides, Cleveland Clinic

 

[Zippyjuan]

Makes sense, right? Why would any of us want to be injected with mercury if it can potentially cause harm? However, what I did not realize is that the preservative-free vaccine contains formaldehyde.

Another silly claim. As I mentioned, formaldehyde is not added to vaccines, it is a few molecules which may remain from cleaning equipment. It isn't going to kill you or make you ill unless you are exposed to huge amounts. Your own body produces and easily breaks down formaldehyde anyways and uses it to help produce proteins and DNA. If the doctor quoted attended Medical School he would have learned this.

http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/2012/04/demystifying-vaccine-ingredients.html

What many people may not know is that our own bodies produce and use formaldehyde as a part of our normal metabolism (Final Report on Carcinogens Background Document for Formaldehyde [PDF], 2010). When we are exposed to methanol (e.g., via inhalation or ingestion of foods like citric fruits and juices, vegetables or fermented beverages), our bodies break it down into formaldehyde and other byproducts. Our bodies produce formaldehyde as a result of DNA demethylation (an important process for controlling gene expression, e.g., in developing embryos) and other biological processes. It is such a regular part of human metabolism, that our normal, naturally produced blood concentrations are generally about 2-3μg of formaldehyde per gram of blood (or about 2.12-3.18μg/mL)*. And it is actually a pretty important chemical; our bodies use formaldehyde to form DNA and amino acids (Toxicological Profile for Formaldehyde [PDF], ATSDR, 1999).

Role in Metabolism

Formaldehyde plays an essential role in our metabolism. As part of the metabolic process, formaldehyde, whether from an external source or produced by our bodies, is converted into formate (PDF) by the enzyme formaldehyde dehydrogenase. The resulting formate can then be eliminated in the urine, further broken down into CO2 and exhaled, or used by our cell machinery to synthesize nucleotides and nucleobases, such as purines and thymidine.

 

[Zippyjuan]

The doctor had to issue an apology on vaccines this week. http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/..._vax_column_hospital_promises_discipline.html

Cleveland Clinic doc apologizes for anti-vax column, hospital promises discipline

CLEVELAND, Ohio-- The Cleveland Clinic wellness doctor who posted a column on cleveland.com Friday bashing vaccines apologized today for the uproar his comments caused, and the hospital system promised "appropriate discipline."

Dr. Daniel Neides, medical director and chief operating officer of the Cleveland Clinic Wellness Institute, said Sunday that he "fully supports vaccination" and was trying to open a conversation about their safety, not question their use.

Through a hospital spokeswoman, Neides released this statment:

"I apologize and regret publishing a blog that has caused so much concern and confusion for the public and medical community. I fully support vaccinations and my concern was meant to be positive around the safety of them."

The Clinic responded by doubling down on its disavowal of Neides' column, saying that the health system is "fully committed to evidence-based medicine," and promising to take disciplinary action against Neides.

Clinic officials have not yet determined what that action will be, according to a spokeswoman.

The Clinic's full statement reads:

"Cleveland Clinic is fully committed to evidence-based medicine. Harmful myths and untruths about vaccinations have been scientifically debunked in rigorous ways. We completely support vaccinations to protect people, especially children who are particularly vulnerable. Our physician published his statement without authorization from Cleveland Clinic. His views do not reflect the position of Cleveland Clinic and appropriate disciplinary action will be taken."

Neides has been blogging on cleveland.com's South Euclid-Lyndhurst community blog for about two years on a variety of wellness-related topics.

His most recent column, posted on Friday afternoon, quickly sparked outrage when it was discovered by the medical and scientific community on social media sites. The column was removed briefly from the site Sunday afternoon, though it's not clear if Neides, who had privileges to log into and alter content on the community blog, or someone else removed it. It was restored shortly after.

Neides began Friday's column with a rant against flu shots and then questioned the safety of the childhood vaccination schedule, suggesting a thoroughly debunked connection between a preservative, thimerosal, and autism.

The column is in stark contrast to one Neides posted only two years ago in which he praised the life-saving power of flu vaccination:

"Having survived the nightmare of the 2009 flu epidemic, you can bet I am the first in line with my sleeve rolled up. I hope many of you will take advantage of the many flu vaccine clinics that Cleveland Clinic has to offer. With a nod to Benjamin Franklin, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"."

 

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The doctor had to issue an apology on vaccines this week.

Yes, imagine that. And he is not just a "doctor" but the Medical Director and Chief Operating Officer of Cleveland Clinic.

The CENSORSHIP on vaccine safety in the mainstream media continues....

Cleveland Medical Director Attacked for Questioning Vaccine Safety

 

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Then he should know better about formaldehyde. He should ask for a rebate on his education from Ohio State.

Did you see his quote in my link on the flu vaccine?

"Having survived the nightmare of the 2009 flu epidemic, you can bet I am the first in line with my sleeve rolled up. I hope many of you will take advantage of the many flu vaccine clinics that Cleveland Clinic has to offer. With a nod to Benjamin Franklin, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"."

 

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Did you see his quote in my link on the flu vaccine?

Which proves what?? (Nothing) He wrote a opinion piece on toxins in vaccines, and never stated he was against vaccines. That's the whole point. Anyone who dares to question ANYTHING negative about vaccines is branded a "quack" and viciously attacked.

I am still waiting for you to answer this question regarding vaccines:

So answer this question: Do you believe the "science is settled" on vaccines, and that ALL children should be vaccinated with ALL vaccines, by force if necessary?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Which proves what?? (Nothing) He wrote a opinion piece on toxins in vaccines, and never stated he was against vaccines. That's the whole point. Anyone who dares to question ANYTHING negative about vaccines is branded a "quack" and viciously attacked.

I am still waiting for you to answer this question regarding vaccines:

Your article on some nurses not wanting to get a flu vaccination also proves nothing. Do you also quote nurses in favor of vaccines or do you just present one side?

I have not said I am for forced vaccination. What I do try to do is correct some of the misinformation coming from the anti-vaccination camp. Do you publish pro- vaccination articles?

 

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I have not said I am for forced vaccination. What I do try to do is correct some of the misinformation coming from the anti-vaccination camp. Do you publish pro- vaccination articles?

Do you believe the "science is settled" on vaccines?

We promote open discussion on vaccine safety. The extremist government and pro-Pharma position is well represented in the mainstream media, where any negative discussion on vaccine safety is clearly censored.

I have referenced this article before, where we represent the entire continuum on vaccines:

Medical Doctors Opposed to Forced Vaccinations – Should Their Views be Silenced?

The most recent example of the Cleveland Clinic medical director questioning the ingredients in one vaccine, and then being labeled as a "quack" and anti-vaccine is a perfect example. He is clearly NOT anti-vaccine.

 

[Zippyjuan]

That is not an unbiased article which does show you have an agenda concerning vaccines. It does not show which percent of doctors and nurses fall into any category. It gives the impression that opinion on vaccines is evenly divided between those in favor and those against.

The "extremist pro- Vaccine Doctors" all look angry or unhappy in their photos. They are "evil". The "extremist Pro- Vaccine" doctors are all happy and smiling and there are many, many more pictures of them. See, they love their patients. Those pro- vaccine people? They are mean. They want to hurt you. The happy people occupy most of the doctors discussed- giving the impression that most doctors agree with them on everything.

The "Extremist pro- vaccine doctors" headline also comes far up in the text- the first big headline you hit within the article. Pro vaccine= extremist.

Do you have any articles recommending vaccines to people? Saying the reader should probably get a particular one?

 

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Really, that is the best response you can give? "Impressions" and the way pictures are portrayed? This so typical of your responses, which completely ignore the main point, which is there are many, yes many, doctors who question vaccines and hold divergent opinions. The mainstream media does everything it can to censor these doctors. The public would not even know this information if it were not for the alternative media.

I see you still have not answered this question:

Do you believe the "science is settled" on vaccines?

And with this answer:

I have not said I am for forced vaccination.

You have not said you are against it either.

My agenda is clear: Present the censored information on vaccines to the public because they will not get this information in the mainstream media.

What is your agenda??

Here is the question again:

So answer this question: Do you believe the "science is settled" on vaccines, and that ALL children should be vaccinated with ALL vaccines, by force if necessary?

 

[Zippyjuan]

I see. You don't have any pro- vaccine articles and are trying to divert from the topic.

So answer this question: Do you believe the "science is settled" on vaccines, and that ALL children should be vaccinated with ALL vaccines, by force if necessary?

I can safely say I do not agree with all of that statement.

 

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I see. You don't have any pro- vaccine articles and are trying to divert from the topic.

I clearly stated our agenda - something you refuse to do. I am not diverting anything.

So answer this question: Do you believe the "science is settled" on vaccines, and that ALL children should be vaccinated with ALL vaccines, by force if necessary?

I can safely say I do not agree with all of that statement.

So who's diverting from what? You are clearly diverting from the question, and refusing to answer it.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Let me elaborate. Do I think vaccines are great? Yes.
Do I think they offer benefits to both the person who received them and society as a whole? Yes.
Do vaccines have side effects? Nothing in life is without any side effects. Even breathing air or drinking water or going to bed has risks which can include the risk of dying.

But compared to just about everything else, the risks of a serious negative side effect from vaccines is incredibly small. They are actually one of the safest things you can encounter. Certainly far less risk than any of the diseases they prevent. Thousands die each year from complications from the flu. How many have died from the flu vaccine? I don't know of a single one.

Are they 100% perfect? Again, nothing is.
Do I think that people should be forced to get them at gunpoint? Certainly not. Talk about strawman argument.

You focus on the negative which is perhaps one case in more than a million and by focusing on it, makes it seem that they are very common when they are not. It is a distorted picture.

 

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Let me elaborate. Do I think vaccines are great? Yes.

Then by all means get your red hot flu vaccine!

You must like playing Russian Roulette too.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Then by all means get your red hot flu vaccine!

You must like playing Russian Roulette too.

What are the odds of dying from a flu vaccine? The odds of dying in Russian Roulette are one in six. How many died from the vaccine? Can you even find any? Out of 150 million doses a year distributed? https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/vaccinesupply.htm

Do you drive or ever ride in a car? 39,000 a year die and 4 million injured. http://www.newsweek.com/2015-brought-biggest-us-traffic-death-increase-50-years-427759 Do you worry about the risks of dying in a car and urge family and friends to stay away from them? What are the odds of dying from a vaccine? One in a billion? Do you worry about that? Which are you more likely to die from? Fears are not always rational.

Ron Paul supports vaccines. He just opposes mandates.

Rand Paul?

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Ironic: Today I am getting my booster vaccine. Wonder how the liberal media will misreport this?

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/562740037293715456

Dr. Dr. Daniel Neides- presented in this thread as being critical of vaccines and of being "censored" was quoted as saying:

"Having survived the nightmare of the 2009 flu epidemic, you can bet I am the first in line with my sleeve rolled up. I hope many of you will take advantage of the many flu vaccine clinics that Cleveland Clinic has to offer. With a nod to Benjamin Franklin, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"."

 

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But compared to just about everything else, the risks of a serious negative side effect from vaccines is incredibly small.

That is an opinion, not a fact.

Thousands die each year from complications from the flu.

Again, that is a belief, not a fact, and based on CDC propaganda. There are no facts (certainly not from the CDC) showing "thousands of deaths" from the flu.

CDC Inflates Flu Death Stats to Sell More Flu Vaccines

How many have died from the flu vaccine? I don't know of a single one.

So what does that prove? Nothing. People die from the flu vaccine all the time, whether you know about it or not. The U.S. Government in their quarterly DOJ reports for compensation paid out for vaccine injuries and deaths list flu vaccine deaths almost every quarter.

Local media also reports on people who were otherwise healthy, received a flu vaccine, and then died from the flu:

Healthy People Who Were Vaccinated for the Flu Continue to Die

It is because of people like you and your beliefs about vaccines, which are not based on facts nor science, that why we must publish the truth.

In the video above, Dr. Mark Geier explains the fraud behind the flu vaccine. Dr. Geier is NOT anti-vaccine. He is an M.D. and has a Ph.D. in genetics. He spent 10 years working at the National Institute of Health, and was a professor at Johns Hopkins University as a geneticist. He is also the author of over 150 peer-reviewed publications.

He worked on vaccine safety and efficacy for more than 30 years. He was one of four scientists that worked to replace the DTP vaccine, a vaccine that caused every child to become sick with a high fever at the time of vaccination, with the DTaP vaccine, which is a more purified vaccine and causes illness due to fever in only 3% of those vaccinated.

In the video above, he explains that the flu shot causes Guillain-Barré Syndrome, and that the flu shot is not very effective in preventing the flu. He also explains that the CDC does not follow the law for vaccines in requiring long-term safety testing for the influenza vaccine like they do with other vaccines, as it is impossible to test a vaccine that changes every year. So the flu vaccine is basically an experimental vaccine that they want to give out to 300 million people every year. There are also no studies showing the safety of giving the flu vaccine to the same person every single year. However, Dr. Geier points out that the CDC is in the business of distributing flu vaccines, because they represent 300 million doses per year, whereas all the childhood vaccines together only number 20 million.

Dr. Geier goes on to explain that flu is “the wrong thing to vaccinate against” because you have to keep re-vaccinating against it every year, unlike childhood infectious diseases, such as smallpox, that are only vaccinated for once. Dr. Geier points out how ridiculous it is spend billions of dollars on a vaccine that might, at its best, save about 50 lives a year, when there are far more serious problems causing death that are more worthy of that kind of expenditure.

 

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Do I think that people should be forced to get them at gunpoint? Certainly not. Talk about strawman argument.

What "strawman" argument? I asked a question, which you still have not answered:

So answer this question: Do you believe the "science is settled" on vaccines, and that ALL children should be vaccinated with ALL vaccines, by force if necessary?

California has removed vaccine exemptions and mandated more people get vaccines, and health care workers often are mandated to get the flu vaccine or lose their job. Nobody said anything about "forced to get them at gunpoint." That actually does happen outside the U.S., but I am not aware of it happening inside the U.S. yet.

You are the one actually setting up a strawman argument, and not answering the question.

 

[Leaning Libertarian]

So financially, most medical professionals are over a barrel when it comes to refusing a policy that could cost them their job if they refuse. Since the flu shot mandate was not in place when most initially decided upon their career path, today’s experienced healthcare workers must choose between complying or the considerable financial and emotional consequences of fighting for their health freedom.

Read the Full Article at VaccineImpact.com

Considering news reports from today allege outspoken vaccine critic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said he has accepted a position in Donald Trump's administration as chair of a panel on vaccine safety and scientific integrity, perhaps these policies will soon change.

https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/trump-vaccine-critic-robert-f-kennedy-jr/