What is the most profound fact that you know that prevents you from being free in the U.S.?

Sayzak

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For me it would be the extremely narrow range from which we are allowed to vote upon in any major election. The sad fact is that in a population of 350 million people, you can not strip away enough of their apathy to change their outlook and get them involved against everything they thought they knew. The establishment has done a magnificent job of using this sample of Americans against there own interests to ensure that the status quo is all we ever see or think about (generally speaking). I feel like I'm begging sheep to run in unison at the fence in order to break free, and they're all mocking me for even suggesting that there is, indeed a fence. It's frustrating. That's why I don't feel free.

You?
 
You have a few different points in all of that. Is interesting too because they merge. Your post reflects a great deal of the logic I share across the board here.

People have lost their identity, Sayzak. In fact they have sold it right out from under themselves. So to answer your question I can only surmise that the people have forgotten who they were. And so then they cannot any longer reason in a manner representative of, by and for themselves. We are now defined over the airwaves on a daily basis as a population of "tweeters", "average Americans", "average voters", "workers", "consumers", "job creators", and on and on. We have been relabled by entities who have assumed our name and with it representation. The platform to control the terms of controversy. And with it comes a unique dumbing down phenomenon that really only works when you have a material or symbol minded following. Which is why we have this "extremely narrow range from which we are allowed to vote upon". PAC men....

Maybe one of these days the ghost of the people will wake up, remember who they are, and maybe turn the table on these PAC men. You think? Wakawakawaka...
 
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Universal suffrage. You should have to be able to pass a us citizenship test to be able to vote. That'd end the pandering to the ignorant masses real quick
 
Our money is fake and loaned into existence creating a perpetual debt that enslaves us all to one extent or the other
 
Universal suffrage. You should have to be able to pass a us citizenship test to be able to vote. That'd end the pandering to the ignorant masses real quick

In a perfect world I'd very much like to have a person come into a voting booth and vote on a 1 - 5 scale (Strongly Disagree --> Strongly Agree) on a series of statements, and have their ultimate vote cast by scoring those responses using a similarity score or a discriminant multivariate analysis. Unfortunately, those who control the voting would control the scoring, so this isn't very feasible if the government is corrupt...

Also, politicians would simply lie (as they already do) to take positions they think match the public opinion as closely as possible.
 
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There can be no freedom without true property rights. Eminent domain, land use restrictions (that don't effect your neighbors), property taxes, etc. A lack of property rights is what forces everyone into the system.
 
For me it would be the extremely narrow range from which we are allowed to vote upon in any major election. The sad fact is that in a population of 350 million people, you can not strip away enough of their apathy to change their outlook and get them involved against everything they thought they knew. The establishment has done a magnificent job of using this sample of Americans against there own interests to ensure that the status quo is all we ever see or think about (generally speaking). I feel like I'm begging sheep to run in unison at the fence in order to break free, and they're all mocking me for even suggesting that there is, indeed a fence. It's frustrating. That's why I don't feel free.

You?

Sorry to say but expecting sheep to act any differently is stupid, cuz' if they were smart enough to understand stuff for themselves then they might already have discovered (or will) discover the truth on their own.

You're hoping that democracy will "work" but it hasn't & won't for the same reason.

The best avenue for those wanting freedom is to acquire as much as power as they can, be it economic, political or whatever, & either 1) use it to change the system within existing country 2) use it to establish new free countries (like seasteading or en masse flooding some small country & "re-wiring" it from ground up)

One of the freest & prosperous country in the history of the world (US of A) wasn't founded by thick-brained masses but by a small number of men seeking freedom, men with significant economic & political power.........
 
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