What is Doug Wead talking about?!

Stallheim

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What is all the secrecy about? If the end run strategy requires an element of stealth, and benefits from a modicum of low expectations, now is not the time for an inspirational speech. That comes when expectations have been exceeded and Ron Paul stands with far more delegates at the convention than the MSM ever dreamed possible. Ron is asking us right now, (if we read between the lines just a bit) for some faith, that is all. Why is that so difficult to deliver, when we have canvased door to door, called thousands, donated until it hurt, infiltrated the local parties at every level, and generally become the knowledgeable political animals we so despised?

We could certainly focus some attention on rallying ourselves in the absence of official campaign hand holding, it is certainly a dispiriting time, but we don't need Ron Paul to be our nanny; we need him to be the willy political fox we all pray that he is. It is just a few more months now, what if this must be the end game now, will you still insist on a confirmation? A little cool shade, a little smoke, a little cover is welcome at this phase, in any case, the battle is sure to heat up soon enough. Remember: Ron Paul's job and our jobs are entirely different and have always been so.

And for those who are still having trouble reading between the lines:
What do you want Ron to tell us? That bound stealth delegates should vote their conscience on the first round at the convention? What about the actual intel they have gathered detailing all the delegate support they think they can count on, do you want that? Perhaps if there is some sort of deal being cooked up with Gingrich or Santorum delegates to hold off on the first vote, you want him to let us all in on this juicy bit of information? Would anything short of this convince you that all is not lost? What if he said: "I am focusing on a delegate strategy. There are things I can't tell you right now. Be dedicated, I will stand by your side every step of the way." Would that be enough for you?

From hear until August I am now considering all negative Nancy commentators to be either trolls, spies or provocateurs. This is just getting exciting.
 
My take on it is that he's talking about a deal having been struck. We'll have to wait and see but that's what makes the most sense out of this right now.
 
Troja Horse strategy. We show up to the conventions. The Romulans do not.

It's not like a Press Release can be sent out. This IS the "barring unforeseen events" Benton talked about.
 
Troja Horse strategy. We show up to the conventions. The Romulans do not.

It's not like a Press Release can be sent out. This IS the "barring unforeseen events" Benton talked about.

Not at all far fetched. All this giving-up talk could be a smokescreen...

...but then again, it might just be wishful thinking on my part.
 
We have all the cards. The RNC cannot win without us. We can pull the trigger and tear the Convention in half. They have almost nothing we want other than the nomination. We can provide a landslide vs Obama.

But its a lot of very difficult steps to any sort of compromise.
 
1. Ron Paul's campaign has NEVER put out an attack ad against Romney, even with no others left,
2. Both Paul, and Romney have said in the past they talk to each other, and are more 'friendly' then other candidates
3. Ron Paul's Campaign email announcing they were focusing on delegates now not campaigning
4. Ron Paul's Campaign email from Jesse Benton announcing 'We Can't Win'


The writing is on the wall anyone unable to admit it is not being realistic with themselves. A deal HAS been struck. What the deal is? We hopefully find out sooner then later.
 
1. Ron Paul's campaign has NEVER put out an attack ad against Romney, even with no others left,
2. Both Paul, and Romney have said in the past they talk to each other, and are more 'friendly' then other candidates
3. Ron Paul's Campaign email announcing they were focusing on delegates now not campaigning
4. Ron Paul's Campaign email from Jesse Benton announcing 'We Can't Win'


The writing is on the wall anyone unable to admit it is not being realistic with themselves. A deal HAS been struck. What the deal is? We hopefully find out sooner then later.

Sigh. A deal with the devil. You're probably right...
 
I cannot help but agree with you. One of the reasons that this whole episode has been so disconcerting is that giving up and calling it quits is hardly what we expect from Dr Paul. Even cutting a deal, and trying to avoid "chaos" at the convention would go against an impeccable record of no compromise and an unwavering willingness to challenge bad ideas.

So the obvious answer is that giving it up and calling it quits is not what is happening here. I agree with this: If the end run strategy requires an element of stealth, and benefits from a modicum of low expectations, now is not the time for an inspirational speech.

After the successes in the caucus states recently, we have actually come to the point where it looks like we can do this. It looks like we can win. Again this adds to the disquiet about recent events, why when things look so good, would we want to tone it down?

This article was posted in another thread: http://ivn.us/2012/05/16/a-first-ballot-rebellion-in-tampa/

"If anything, the email signaled that the Paul campaign is more serious than ever about actually winning the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, especially as it comes on the heels of a month-long string of major delegate victories that have bolstered the Ron Paul campaign’s hopes of a brokered convention in Tampa and demonstrated the potential viability of its delegate-focused strategy. After seeing marked results from this strategy, an announcement that the campaign will be pursuing it even more single-mindedly can hardly be interpreted as a retreat."

I think this is a good assessment.
 
1. Ron Paul's campaign has NEVER put out an attack ad against Romney, even with no others left,
2. Both Paul, and Romney have said in the past they talk to each other, and are more 'friendly' then other candidates
3. Ron Paul's Campaign email announcing they were focusing on delegates now not campaigning
4. Ron Paul's Campaign email from Jesse Benton announcing 'We Can't Win'


The writing is on the wall anyone unable to admit it is not being realistic with themselves. A deal HAS been struck. What the deal is? We hopefully find out sooner then later.

Ron was asked recently if he had spoken to Romney about policy. He said no, when they talk its generally about family.

I can't understand why people would think a deal has been made with Romney. Deal's & compromise are not exactly Dr Paul's thing. If Romney promises a change in foreign or monetary policy, why on earth would Ron believe him? He has always responded to promises and commitments as being just talk. They NEVER do the things they promise.

People's readiness to believe a deal has been struck just baffles me.
 
Ron Paul doesn't make deals with the devil. That's why we support him. You think after decades of being the ONLY guy who doesn't compromise that he's suddenly going to change? You don't know wtf you're talking about.
 
Ron Paul doesn't make deals with the devil. That's why we support him. You think after decades of being the ONLY guy who doesn't compromise that he's suddenly going to change? You don't know wtf you're talking about.

Ikr!
 
Ron Paul doesn't make deals with the devil. That's why we support him. You think after decades of being the ONLY guy who doesn't compromise that he's suddenly going to change? You don't know wtf you're talking about.

Ron Paul wants to play nice with the GOP so that it doesn't "ruin" Rand's political future...
 
Even if he WANTED to he wouldn't. It would be like taking back every word uttered since the 70s. He's not that guy.
 
''From here until August I am now considering all negative Nancy commentators to be either trolls, spies or provocateurs. This is just getting exciting.''

i agree with this. I would like to see mods ban these types in here instead of people who may or may not have low post content, but have their hearts in the right place.
 
Why does that baffle you? Jesse Benton said MONTHS ago that their goal was to cut a deal to get Ron a VP slot or a speaking slot at the convention.

Uh, no, you are mischaracterizing what he said.

I was upset for awhile by what has transpired over the last couple of days, but you know what, nothing has really changed. We still have delegates to win and we will fight to the end and see what happens.

Onward!
 
Before the Colorado Conventions, our local campaign coordinator even told us something to the effect of "we want (national) delegates who would be willing to vote for Romney," despite the fact that he was actively and publically pushing us to vote for Santorum delegates. 8) Benton, Fein and Tate all said, at different times, that they were pushing for a VP deal like this. The writing has been on the wall for over a month now and even low level coordinators seem privy to it. Wasn't sure whether they were pushing for Ron or Rand as VP, but I kind of get the sense it's Rand, judging by the machinations I've witnessed (Rand people, working with Holdrige and Benton to trade away entire slates of Ron Paulers for some marginal committee positions).
 
1. Ron Paul's campaign has NEVER put out an attack ad against Romney, even with no others left,
2. Both Paul, and Romney have said in the past they talk to each other, and are more 'friendly' then other candidates
3. Ron Paul's Campaign email announcing they were focusing on delegates now not campaigning
4. Ron Paul's Campaign email from Jesse Benton announcing 'We Can't Win'


The writing is on the wall anyone unable to admit it is not being realistic with themselves. A deal HAS been struck. What the deal is? We hopefully find out sooner then later.

NVM
 
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