We shouldn't even know what Paul's religion is!

[EWM]

While Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air politically, we're still stuck in this, "Well, what religion does he follow?" nonsense.

It doesn't matter what someone's religion is and it shouldn't be used as a voting issue. I want someone to fix the economy, not preach the gospel. Religion should be a private issue. It's alienating to many people when candidates and the media keep pushing their religion.

We'd all be better off without the religious distraction. Let's stick to the REAL issues!

 

[Brandon2012]

While I understand your frustration I have to disagree. When people formed state constitutions if you weren't a Christian, you couldn't even hold public office. Religion, specifically the Christian faith has been the fabric of our country. Look at some of the laws on our books. They reflect a Judeo-Christian background. And when Ron Paul discharges certain "real issues", he sometimes attacks them on moral grounds. And he's absolutely right. Debasing our currency is a abomination to YHWH. Stealing money from another to give to another because you deem that person deserving is a crime against YHWH's design of personal property. Personal Property rights are God given rights. "Thou shall not steal" and "Thou shall not covet". When rich people gain at the advantage of the poor, YHWH is not pleased with that.

And while I know some might argue that these are natural rights or common sense rights (though I disagree), Ron Paul defends them on the grounds of scripture. So, it is rather important that his faith be known, well atleast for me and the evangelical vote.

I don't claim to know all his beliefs. But a person that I respect in the faith a great deal actually worked with RP as chief of staff. And this man, John Robbins based everything he believed on the grounds of Scripture. He should do more to broadcast his beliefs. Not all of us are lazy Christians that only listen to John Hagee or Joel Osteen. There are many Reformed Christians (those who started the Reformation) that agree with him.

 

[dannno]

I'm actually a bit confused about what his religion is. The wiki states he grew up a Lutheran and switched to Baptist, but his kids are all baptized Episcopalian.

I just noticed this last night.

I certainly don't care what his religion is, some people do tho.

 

[jkr]

believes in GOD

leave it at that

 

[Brandon2012]

I'm actually a bit confused about what his religion is. The wiki states he grew up a Lutheran and switched to Baptist, but his kids kids are all baptized Episcopalian.

I just noticed this last night.

I certainly don't care what his religion is, some people do tho.

Well it's all under the umbrella of Christianity. Those are just denominations. I was born Baptist. Raised Methodist. Now I'm Reformed (Presbyterianish).

 

[EWM]

While I understand your frustration I have to disagree. When people formed state constitutions if you weren't a Christian, you couldn't even hold public office. Religion, specifically the Christian faith has been the fabric of our country. Look at some of the laws on our books. They reflect a Judeo-Christian background. And when Ron Paul discharges certain "real issues", he sometimes attacks them on moral grounds. And he's absolutely right. Debasing our currency is a abomination to YHWH. Stealing money from another to give to another because you deem that person deserving is a crime against YHWH's design of personal property. Personal Property rights are God given rights. "Thou shall not steal" and "Thou shall not covet". When rich people gain at the advantage of the poor, YHWH is not pleased with that.

And while I know some might argue that these are natural rights or common sense rights (though I disagree), Ron Paul defends them on the grounds of scripture. So, it is rather important that his faith be known, well atleast for me and the evangelical vote.

I don't claim to know all his beliefs. But a person that I respect in the faith a great deal actually worked with RP as chief of staff. And this man, John Robbins based everything he believed on the grounds of Scripture. He should do more to broadcast his beliefs. Not all of us are lazy Christians that only listen to John Hagee or Joel Osteen. There are many Reformed Christians (those who started the Reformation) that agree with him.

One does not need religion to be of high morals. Not all Americans are Christians or religious. How would adding more Christianity to the dialogue attract people of other faiths or no faiths?

 

[EWM]

believes in GOD

leave it at that

No.

Not everyone shares the same beliefs, and their views should be respected as well.

 

[jmdrake]

I'm actually a bit confused about what his religion is. The wiki states he grew up a Lutheran and switched to Baptist, but his kids kids are all baptized Episcopalian.

I just noticed this last night.

I certainly don't care what his religion is, some people do tho.

All three of those are branches of the Christian religion. So Ron Paul is Christian. Why worry any further?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I'm actually a bit confused about what his religion is. The wiki states he grew up a Lutheran and switched to Baptist, but his kids kids are all baptized Episcopalian.

I just noticed this last night.

I certainly don't care what his religion is, some people do tho.

That's not hard for me to understand. When I was a kid, my mother took my sister and I to a Lutheran church. My father and brother went to a Presbyterian church. I was baptized Lutheran; my brother was baptized Presbyterian.

But, most of the time, my brother and I were trying to reset all the clocks the night before so my parents would sleep through church.

 

[LibertyEagle]

While I understand your frustration I have to disagree. When people formed state constitutions if you weren't a Christian, you couldn't even hold public office. Religion, specifically the Christian faith has been the fabric of our country. Look at some of the laws on our books. They reflect a Judeo-Christian background. And when Ron Paul discharges certain "real issues", he sometimes attacks them on moral grounds. And he's absolutely right. Debasing our currency is a abomination to YHWH. Stealing money from another to give to another because you deem that person deserving is a crime against YHWH's design of personal property. Personal Property rights are God given rights. "Thou shall not steal" and "Thou shall not covet". When rich people gain at the advantage of the poor, YHWH is not pleased with that.

And while I know some might argue that these are natural rights or common sense rights (though I disagree), Ron Paul defends them on the grounds of scripture. So, it is rather important that his faith be known, well atleast for me and the evangelical vote.

I don't claim to know all his beliefs. But a person that I respect in the faith a great deal actually worked with RP as chief of staff. And this man, John Robbins based everything he believed on the grounds of Scripture. He should do more to broadcast his beliefs. Not all of us are lazy Christians that only listen to John Hagee or Joel Osteen. There are many Reformed Christians (those who started the Reformation) that agree with him.

I think he has said before that he is a baptist. But, don't quote me on it. If it matters that much to you, Brandon, contact the campaign and ask them.

In case you haven't seen it, here is his Statement of Faith. http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/statement-of-faith/

 

[jmdrake]

One does not need religion to be of high morals. Not all Americans are Christians or religious. How would adding more Christianity to the dialogue attract people of other faiths or no faiths?

Part of the reason Ron Paul did so well in Iowa is because of his outreach to Christians. The overwhelming majority of GOP voters are Christians as are a solid majority of Americans. The idea that Ron should hide his Christianity in order to "attract people of other faiths or no faith" is laughable. Rather its important that Ron Paul point out that you can be a Christian conservative and not think you're supposed to bomb the hell out of some country that hasn't threated you just because its leader has verbally attacked Israel.

 

[dannno]

All three of those are branches of the Christian religion. So Ron Paul is Christian. Why worry any further?

I didn't even worry any antior.

 

[EWM]

Part of the reason Ron Paul did so well in Iowa is because of his outreach to Christians. The overwhelming majority of GOP voters are Christians as are a solid majority of Americans. The idea that Ron should hide his Christianity in order to "attract people of other faiths or no faith" is laughable. Rather its important that Ron Paul point out that you can be a Christian conservative and not think you're supposed to bomb the hell out of some country that hasn't threated you just because its leader has verbally attacked Israel.

He doesn't have to hide his Christianity, but he doesn't have to promote it either. Religion should be purely personal. Besides, when anyone pushes elements of the Bible, they're basically pushing Judaism anyway cuz that's the foundation of Christianity.

 

[jmdrake]

I didn't even worry any antior.

I know. I was making a general statement. Sorry for not being clear. Anyway, the entire thread is silly. It's like saying "Why do we need to know Ron Paul has been married to the same woman for decades? How will that attract gays and the divorced?" There is nobody that is going to not vote for Ron because his is a Christian. I mean, who are the going to vote for? Obama because they think he might be Muslim?

 

[jmdrake]

He doesn't have to hide his Christianity, but he doesn't have to promote it either. Religion should be purely personal. Besides, when anyone pushes elements of the Bible, they're basically pushing Judaism anyway cuz that's the foundation of Christianity.

So? Again the electorate is overwhelmingly Christian. The nation is overwhelmingly Christian. Many GOP Christians are making some dumb voting decisions because the misunderstand Christianity. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Ron Paul talking about things from a Christian perspective. That doesn't make his religion any less "personal". He's not forcing his religion on anyone else. Having a personal religion doesn't mean you can't let your light shine. And who are you to tell someone else what they should or should not say about their own religion?

 

[Sola_Fide]

While I understand your frustration I have to disagree. When people formed state constitutions if you weren't a Christian, you couldn't even hold public office. Religion, specifically the Christian faith has been the fabric of our country. Look at some of the laws on our books. They reflect a Judeo-Christian background. And when Ron Paul discharges certain "real issues", he sometimes attacks them on moral grounds. And he's absolutely right. Debasing our currency is a abomination to YHWH. Stealing money from another to give to another because you deem that person deserving is a crime against YHWH's design of personal property. Personal Property rights are God given rights. "Thou shall not steal" and "Thou shall not covet". When rich people gain at the advantage of the poor, YHWH is not pleased with that.

And while I know some might argue that these are natural rights or common sense rights (though I disagree), Ron Paul defends them on the grounds of scripture. So, it is rather important that his faith be known, well atleast for me and the evangelical vote.

I don't claim to know all his beliefs. But a person that I respect in the faith a great deal actually worked with RP as chief of staff. And this man, John Robbins based everything he believed on the grounds of Scripture. He should do more to broadcast his beliefs. Not all of us are lazy Christians that only listen to John Hagee or Joel Osteen. There are many Reformed Christians (those who started the Reformation) that agree with him.

Welcome here! I have also been tremendously blessed by John Robbins...I've probably driven everyone nuts here by posting so many of his articles and ideas

God used John Robbins to confirm in me even more that justification by faith alone is the gospel itself and the only sound basis of a free civilization.

Good to have you here! I agree with everything in your post except that I wish Dr. Paul would more explicitly ground his ideas of liberty in Scripture.

 

[EWM]

So? Again the electorate is overwhelmingly Christian. The nation is overwhelmingly Christian. Many GOP Christians are making some dumb voting decisions because the misunderstand Christianity. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Ron Paul talking about things from a Christian perspective. That doesn't make his religion any less "personal". He's not forcing his religion on anyone else. Having a personal religion doesn't mean you can't let your light shine. And who are you to tell someone else what they should or should not say about their own religion?

As a voter, I have every right to criticize what a candidate does. His policies can be promoted without the addition of Christian talk. If citizens can only vote for someone they deem as being the "best Christian," then they need to evolve in their thinking.

 

[jmdrake]

As a voter, I have every right to criticize what a candidate does. His policies can be promoted without the addition of Christian talk. If citizens can only vote for someone they deem as being the "best Christian," then they need to evolve in their thinking.

Yep. You also have a right to vote for and support someone else. But as someone who's trying to help Ron Paul get elected you should (if that's your main goal) look at the facts. Most GOP voters disagree with you. Maybe you're the one that needs to evolve your thinking? You certainly should evolve your politics. If you want the politician who's the best at denegrating Christianity in the public discourse there's always Obama. "Evolved thinking" indeed.

 

[Theocrat]

Exposing the Myth of Neutrality (in Choosing Candidates)

As a voter, I have every right to criticize what a candidate does. His policies can be promoted without the addition of Christian talk. If citizens can only vote for someone they deem as being the "best Christian," then they need to evolve in their thinking.

Indeed, voters have every right to criticize what a candidate does. However, voters also have a right to choose their candidate(s) based on their religious beliefs, especially if that is what matters the most to them. Just as you would not look at a candidate's religion, others have chosen to consider it otherwise.

Why should they go by your standard and exclude the religious beliefs of the candidates, anyway? You have to realize that even the notion of excluding the religious belief of a candidate is itself based on a religious belief, highlighting a secular humanistic outlook on how to vote (the belief that religious beliefs aren't important to a candidate). Yet, you would enforce that religious criterion upon Christian voters, and that's just not right, if we go by your standard.

 

[r3volution]

sorry , wrong section .