VOTE FOR THE NEXT MONEYBOMB DATE: 5th of November OR 11/11/11?

[1836]

The next moneybomb is set for 11/11/11. That's a really cool date and the theme of bringing our troops home couldn't be more important. But it has been suggested in another thread that a more effective date, in addition to or instead of the 11th, would be the 5th.

Remember, remember, the 5th of November.

For those of us who were involved in the 2007 campaign, and for the entire liberty movement, November 5th has a special place in our hearts. It was truly the day that got the Ron Paul Revolution off the ground in a big way. It was an old British historical day, but we made it our day.

Now the poll is:

Do you want to move the moneybomb to November 5th?
Do you want to keep it at 11/11/11?
Or should we hold both?
Or another date entirely?
Or the week from the 5th THRU the 11th?

I am not involved in the moneybomb planning. I am only posting this so that we can get an idea of what our vast grassroots forum membership thinks.

For liberty!

 

[overcastpatriot]

Focus on the 11th, this gives everyone an extra week to promote it and works well with the themes of Paul being a veteran, supported by veterans, and having an anti-interventionist platform. Remember November rhymes but that's about it.

 

[1836]

Focus on the 11th, this gives everyone an extra week to promote it and works well with the themes of Paul being a veteran, supported by veterans, and having an anti-interventionist platform. Remember November rhymes but that's about it.

Well, November 5th is a day that a lot of people associate with Ron Paul, and certainly his supporters. I would suggest that it is also not the worst thing to be getting that money to the campaign a week earlier. ESPECIALLY if New Hampshire moves their primary to December.

 

[orenbus]

If we do 11/5 we lose. Get it through your heads people.

I like the idea of doing instead of a one day money bomb doing a week long money bomb starting November 4th and ending November 11th that way not only is everyone happy and it's not tied to one specific 24 hour period. Doing it that way would raise more money (since there would be universal support and marketing for this) and stay neutral because the fund raising is over the course of a week and can't be tied to one specific date. We could even call it "Patriots Week" or "A Week of Remembrance" something that also celebrates our right to elections (Election Day November 8th) and a number of other Patriotic dates in our history:

# November 04, 1845 The first nationally observed uniform election day in US
# November 04, 1924 Nellie Tayloe Ross of Wyoming is elected as the first female governor in the United States.
# November 04, 1980 Ronald Reagan (R) beats President Jimmy Carter (R) by a landslide
# November 04, 1980 Ronald Wilson Reagan is elected as the 40th President of the United States of America.

# November 05, 1781 John Hanson elected first "President of the US in Congress assembled"
(The Articles of Confederation called for Congress to meet "on the first Monday in November, in every year....") On November 5, 1781, John Hanson of Maryland became the first President of Congress to be elected to an annual term as specified under the Articles of Confederation

# November 06, 1860 Abraham Lincoln (R-Ill-Rep) elected 16th President

# November 07, 1805 Lewis and Clark sight the Pacific Ocean
# November 07, 1874 The first cartoon depicting elephant as Republican Party symbol, by T Nast
# November 07, 1893 Women in the U.S. state of Colorado are granted the right to vote.
# November 07, 1916 Jeannette Rankin is the first women elected to the United States Congress.
# November 07, 1932 Buck Rogers in the 25th Century airs on radio for the first time.
# November 07, 1973 NJ becomes first state to allow girls into the little league

# November 08, 1864 Abraham Lincoln elected to his 2nd term as President
# November 08, 1889 Montana becomes the 41st state of the Union.
# November 08, 1942 WWII Operation Torch begins as U.S. and British forces land in French North Africa.
# November 08, 1966 Edward W Brooke (Rep-R-MA) becomes first black elected to Senate
# November 08, 1966 Movie actor Ronald Reagan elected governor of California
# November 09, 1989 Cold War: Fall of the Berlin Wall. Communist-controlled East Germany opens checkpoints in the Berlin Wall allowing its citizens to freely travel to West Germany. People start demolishing the Berlin Wall.

# November 10, 1928 Playing against Army at Yankee Stadium, Notre Dame football coach Knute Rockne gives what is considered the greatest locker room speeches of all time by saying "Win one for the Gipper." The Fighting Irish would win the game 12-6.
# November 10, 1775 Birth of the United States Marine Corps! OORAH! - USA
November 10, 1938 Kate Smith, on her weekly radio show, sings Irving Berlin's God Bless America for the first time.
# November 10, 1951 Direct long-distance dialing between the east and west coasts of the U.S. begins today with a call between the mayors of Englewood, NJ and Alameda, CA.

# November 11, 1839 The Virginia Military Institute is founded in Lexington, Virginia.
# November 11, 1865 Mary Edward Walker, the first female Army surgeon, awarded Medal of Honor
# November 11, 1918 World War I ends: Germany signs an armistice agreement with the Allies in a railroad car outside of Compigne in France. The war officially stops at 11:00 (The eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month).
# November 11, 1921 The Tomb of the Unknowns is dedicated by US President Warren G. Harding at Arlington National Cemetery.
# November 11, 1922 Largest US flag displayed (150' X 90') expanded in 1939 (270' X 90')
# November 11, 1983 President Reagan became first US President to address Japan's legislature


http://www.datesinhistory.com/nov04.php
http://www.datesinhistory.com/nov11.php

I agree pinning us down to Veterans day is going to end up costing the campaign probably millions of dollars, but then again I also understand the other side of the argument we don't want to be tied to November 5th as tightly for reasons of potentially harming the campaign through misinterpretation of the even through public relations, because of other groups possibly doing other things that day such as Anonymous, etc.

Also lately it seems our money bombs at the request of the campaign has spilled over at minimum a few hours to a entire weekend to reach a specific goal whether it's going past $1 million, etc. So doing a week long fund raising event isn't really that foreign or strange and remember we are the dreamers of dreams. Who ever said a money bomb needed to be just a 24 hour period?

Because every sub group in the grassroots would be able to enjoy this week of fund raising it gives them the flexibility to independently decide to promote it and have fun while doing it which means more visibility and promotion which in return brings in millions of more dollars to the campaign.

 

[jasonxe]

we need a poll to see when majority of Paulites get there paychecks :-D. 5th of Nov maybe.... im leaning towards that but I got no money so my opinion doesn't matter. (look at my sig)

 

[1836]

Does anyone remember the big push towards the end of Q4 2007? What was it, 12 million to win or something like that?

What if we tried to raise a big amount, say $10 million dollars from the 5th through the 11th, starting with November 5th and all that fireworks and then ending with a poignant tribute on veterans' day?

 

[lucent]

Honestly, I remember a similar conversation in 2007. Then Lyman made a November 5th website and it took off because that is what people wanted.

In any case, "Veteran's Day" theme is not going to be popular. The date itself is unimportant as much as what the message is behind it.

 

[1836]

Yes, I fear that nobody cares about Veteran's Day, sadly.

That's why the November 5th suggestion's a good one. But I also like the idea of doing an entire week money bomb, or 6 days, starting then and running through Veteran's Day.

 

[lucent]

Does anyone remember the big push towards the end of Q4 2007? What was it, 12 million to win or something like that?

What if we tried to raise a big amount, say $10 million dollars from the 5th through the 11th, starting with November 5th and all that fireworks and then ending with a poignant tribute on veterans' day?

A week long drive could certainly be good. You need a marketing gimmick to promote. Having a week long drive and then advertising the 5th of November could work.

One of the key differences between Tea Party/11-5 and our money bombs is the $100 pledge on the websites. Set a high pledge to guide how much we need.

 

[1836]

A week long drive could certainly be good. You need a marketing gimmick to promote.

One of the key differences between Tea Party/11-5 and our money bombs is the $100 pledge on the websites. Set a high pledge to guide how much we need.

Very sharp lucent. Very sharp. Set a high pledge amount. You're spot on. +rep!

 

[lucent]

A week long money drive has a major advantage that it allows people to spend the whole week pushing something that is in progress.

 

[eleganz]

If theres anything that we learned from BTO its that PREPARATION AND PROPER MOTIVATION IS KEY!

I think if we could think of a clever date for December and start promoting it now, we can get a big push, I think 11/5 maybe too soon but it is true many many people are familiar with it, I just dont know if people are ready to donate again in such a short period between that and BTO.

We definitely need a HUGE PUSH before the primaries start to get more attention.

 

[lucent]

If theres anything that we learned from BTO its that PREPARATION AND PROPER MOTIVATION IS KEY!

I think if we could think of a clever date for December and start promoting it now, we can get a big push, I think 11/5 maybe too soon but it is true many many people are familiar with it, I just dont know if people are ready to donate again in such a short period between that and BTO.

We definitely need a HUGE PUSH before the primaries start to get more attention.

The campaign needs money now. The quicker the better.

 

[McDermit]

Don't put an arbitrary dollar amount on it. (Ie:raising $10mil.) As shown today, that doesn't work. Everyone now knows there is another moneybomb right around the corner, so we won't hit the crazy totals of 07. I was at a meetup recently where the leaderr announced BTO, but prefaced it by saying there would be another one, and one after that... kind of took the sails out of it before he even got into the details.

The RonPaulSignBomb people are already organizing their sign bombs for Nov 5th. We be remiss not to capitlize on that. We were missing the offline element for BTO. Start pushing now for rallies, sign bombs, sign waves, etc on the 5th. If you want it to run through th 11th, cool... but make the 5th the big splash.

A $100 pledge is a great idea. Use that again. We had TONS of people going $5, $10, $20.01 today. If we had asked up front for $100, maybe they would have saved up or sold stuff to get it?

We got a bunch of first time donors today, so we'll have an even larger pool of donors next time

 

[lucent]

We could utilize November 5th in a different way. Remember Remember the Fifth of November can be direct toward remembering the 2007 November.

 

[lucent]

Don't put an arbitrary dollar amount on it. As shown today, that doesn't work. Everyone now knows there is another moneybomb right around the corner, so we won't hit the crazy totals of 07. I was at a meetup recently where the leaderr announced BTO, but prefaced it by saying there would be another one, and one after that... kind of took the sails out of it before he even got into the details.

I disagree. A high number is a goal to reach. Without a goal, people's motivation is dampened.

 

[Kludge]

Honestly, I remember a similar conversation in 2007. Then Lyman made a November 5th website and it took off because that is what people wanted.

In any case, "Veteran's Day" theme is not going to be popular. The date itself is unimportant as much as what the message is behind it.

Right. We all argued whether or not Guy Fawkes was a terrorist, essentially. In the end, the day's which theme has the most inspiration of passion won. Unfortunately, that was not Veterans' Day, and so the media made a few quips about the Paul Campaign (and its supporters) endorsing a terrorist, which is fine by me. I doubt anyone's mind changed from Glenn Beck calling us terrorists who are able to raise >$4m in a day.

Allegedly, "Anonymous" is planning on taking down Facebook on Nov. 5th. As far as I can tell, the group's useful people appear to have left the scene, working on other, more narrow projects. I think we can pretty safely assume that'll be a non-event, and nobody will associate Ron Paul with the people who cause pings to Facebook to take a couple ms longer.... unless we spam too much. Hm...

I'm totally up for Nov. 5th. Not a fan of Guy Fawkes, but the RP Nov. 5th moneybomb is a historic and proven date.

 

[eleganz]

Remember the 5th of Nov. is great, maybe we can use this to get a piece of that OCCUPY media time too..


I'm not sure but I think I will max out during the next moneybomb..

 

[1836]

Right. We all argued whether or not Guy Fawkes was a terrorist, essentially. In the end, the day's which theme has the most inspiration of passion won. Unfortunately, that was not Veterans' Day, and so the media made a few quips about the Paul Campaign (and its supporters) endorsing a terrorist, which is fine by me. I doubt anyone's mind changed from Glenn Beck calling us terrorists who are able to raise >$4m in a day.

Allegedly, "Anonymous" is planning on taking down Facebook on Nov. 5th. As far as I can tell, the group's useful people appear to have left the scene, working on other, more narrow projects. I think we can pretty safely assume that'll be a non-event, and nobody will associate Ron Paul with the people who cause pings to Facebook to take a couple ms longer.... unless we spam too much. Hm...

I'm totally up for Nov. 5th. Not a fan of Guy Fawkes, but the RP Nov. 5th moneybomb is a historic and proven date.

It's hard to beat that nostalgic feeling isn't it? I remember watching the ticker that evening of Nov. 5th and thinking that the campaign would never be the same.

 

[lucent]

Right. We all argued whether or not Guy Fawkes was a terrorist, essentially. In the end, the day's which theme has the most inspiration of passion won. Unfortunately, that was not Veterans' Day, and so the media made a few quips about the Paul Campaign (and its supporters) endorsing a terrorist, which is fine by me. I doubt anyone's mind changed from Glenn Beck calling us terrorists who are able to raise >$4m in a day.

Allegedly, "Anonymous" is planning on taking down Facebook on Nov. 5th. As far as I can tell, the group's useful people appear to have left the scene, working on other, more narrow projects. I think we can pretty safely assume that'll be a non-event, and nobody will associate Ron Paul with the people who cause pings to Facebook to take a couple ms longer.... unless we spam too much. Hm...

I'm totally up for Nov. 5th. Not a fan of Guy Fawkes, but the RP Nov. 5th moneybomb is a historic and proven date.

People don't seem to realize that Nov. 5th is a holiday celebrating the foiling of Guy Fawkes. It was the movie V for Vendetta that twisted it.