Videos: No wonder they hate us around the world!

[jstmike]

This discovery started with this thread looking at the number of military bases:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=74819

I really hope that us Americans wake up and vote Ron Paul into office so we can stop these crimes against the earth and people around the world.

I'm having a hard time expressing myself after watching these:

Depleted Uranium - The Invisible War

Part1: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=551_1179479196

Part2: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=07f_1179478973

Part3: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=57a_1179478727

Part4: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=424_1179478455

Part5: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d34_1179478081

Part6: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=434_1179477832

Part7: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8cf_1179477508

U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Training film (with edits)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGUIUQp3LsQ

Depleted Uranium - The Ultimate Dirty Bomb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2NHfoC2pc

 

[jstmike]

The more I read the more I'm outraged! Here they are banning the old light bulbs because supposed enviromental issues and here we are destroying the earth and people. The poor people of the Former Yugoslavia didn't deserve this and this was done under Clinton. So it isn't just Bush though both senior and W have used them and W continues to use them. All of them need to be locked up for crimes against humanity and the earth!

I just read the Wikipedia on Depleted Uranium:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

The use of depleted uranium in armor-penetrating munitions remains a source of controversy because of the numerous unanswered questions about its long-term health effects. Depleted uranium is less toxic than other heavy metals such as arsenic and mercury and is only very weakly radioactive because of its relatively long half life (4.5 billion years).[2] While there are risks involved with any radiation exposure, no conclusive epidemiological data have correlated DU exposure to specific human health effects such as cancer.[3] However, the UK government has attributed birth defect claims from a 1991 Gulf War combat veteran to depleted uranium poisoning, and studies using cultured cells and laboratory rodents continue to suggest the possibility of leukemogenic, genetic, reproductive, and neurological effects from chronic exposure. Until issues of concern are resolved with further research, the use of depleted uranium by the military will continue to be controversial.[4]

Photographic evidence of destroyed equipment suggests that DU was first used during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war. Various written reports cite information that was obtained as a consequence of that use.[6] However, while clearing the decades-old Hawaii Stryker firing range, workers have found depleted uranium ammunition from the 1960s.[citation needed]

The U.S. military used DU shells in the 1991 Gulf War, Bosnia war,[7] Serbia bombing, and the 2003 Iraq War.[8]

Most military use of depleted uranium has been as 30 mm and smaller ordnance, primarily the 30 mm PGU-14/B armour-piercing incendiary round from the GAU-8 Avenger cannon of the A-10 Thunderbolt II and M230 of the Apache Helicopter used by the U.S. Air Force.[15] 25 mm DU rounds have been used in the M242 gun mounted on the U.S. Army's Bradley Fighting Vehicle and LAV-AT. The U.S. Marine Corps uses DU in the 25 mm PGU-20 round fired by the GAU-12 Equalizer cannon of the AV-8B Harrier, and also in the 20 mm M197 gun mounted on AH-1 helicopter gunships. The US Navy's Phalanx CIWS's M61 Vulcan gatling gun used 20 mm armor-piercing penetrator rounds with discarding plastic sabots which were made using depleted uranium, later changed to tungsten.

It is thought that between 17 and 20 states have weapons incorporating depleted uranium in their arsenals. They include the U.S., the UK, France, Russia, Greece, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, Kuwait, Pakistan, Thailand, Iraq and Taiwan. DU ammunition is manufactured in 18 countries. Only the US and the UK have acknowledged using DU weapons.[17]

In 1996 the International Court of Justice (ICJ) gave an advisory opinion on the "legality of the threat or use of nuclear weapons".[18] This made it clear, in paragraphs 54, 55 and 56, that international law on poisonous weapons, – the Second Hague Declaration of 29 July 1899, Hague Convention IV of 18 October 1907 and the Geneva Protocol of 17 June 1925 – did not cover nuclear weapons, because their prime or exclusive use was not to poison or asphyxiate. This ICJ opinion was about nuclear weapons, but the sentence "The terms have been understood, in the practice of States, in their ordinary sense as covering weapons whose prime, or even exclusive, effect is to poison or asphyxiate." also removes depleted uranium weaponry from coverage by the same treaties as their primary use is not to poison or asphyxiate, but to destroy materiel and kill soldiers through kinetic energy.

The Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities of the United Nations Human Rights Commission,[19] passed two motions[20] the first in 1996[21] and the second in 1997.[22] They listed weapons of mass destruction, or weapons with indiscriminate effect, or of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering and urged all states to curb the production and the spread of such weapons. Included in the list was weaponry containing depleted uranium. The committee authorized a working paper, in the context of human rights and humanitarian norms, of the weapons. The requested UN working paper was delivered in 2002[23] by Y.K.J. Yeung Sik Yuen in accordance with Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights resolution 2001/36. He argues that the use of DU in weapons, along with the other weapons listed by the Sub‑Commission, may breach one or more of the following treaties: The Universal Declaration of Human Rights; the Charter of the United Nations; the Genocide Convention; the United Nations Convention Against Torture; the Geneva Conventions including Protocol I; the Convention on Conventional Weapons of 1980; and the Chemical Weapons Convention.

In 2001, Carla Del Ponte, the chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia, said that NATO's use of depleted uranium in former Yugoslavia could be investigated as a possible war crime.[24] Louise Arbour, Del Ponte's predecessor as chief prosecutor, had created a small, internal committee, made up of staff lawyers, to assess the allegation. Their findings, that were accepted and endorsed by Del Ponte,[25] concluded that:

There is no specific treaty ban on the use of DU projectiles. There is a developing scientific debate and concern expressed regarding the impact of the use of such projectiles and it is possible that, in future, there will be a consensus view in international legal circles that use of such projectiles violate general principles of the law applicable to use of weapons in armed conflict. No such consensus exists at present.[26]

Increased rates of immune system disorders and other wide-ranging symptoms, including chronic pain, fatigue and memory loss, have been reported in over one quarter of combat veterans of the 1991 Gulf War.[61] Combustion products from depleted uranium munitions were at one time being considered as one of the potential causes by the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses, as DU was used in tank kinetic energy penetrator and machine-gun bullets on a large scale for the first time in the Gulf War.

In early 2004, the UK Pensions Appeal Tribunal Service attributed birth defect claims from a February 1991 Gulf War combat veteran to depleted uranium poisoning.[62][63]

 

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[jstmike]

Oh, after reading the World Health Organization paper I feel much better. NOT!

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs257/en/

- Under most circumstances, use of DU will make a negligible contribution to the overall natural background levels of uranium in the environment. Probably the greatest potential for DU exposure will follow conflict where DU munitions are used.
- A recent United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) report giving field measurements taken around selected impact sites in Kosovo (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) indicates that contamination by DU in the environment was localized to a few tens of metres around impact sites. Contamination by DU dusts of local vegetation and water supplies was found to be extremely low. Thus, the probability of significant exposure to local populations was considered to be very low.
- A UN expert team reported in November 2002 that they found traces of DU in three locations among 14 sites investigated in Bosnia following NATO airstrikes in 1995. A full report is expected to be published by UNEP in March 2003.
- Levels of DU may exceed background levels of uranium close to DU contaminating events. Over the days and years following such an event, the contamination normally becomes dispersed into the wider natural environment by wind and rain. People living or working in affected areas may inhale contaminated dusts or consume contaminated food and drinking water.
- People near an aircraft crash may be exposed to DU dusts if counterweights are exposed to prolonged intense heat. Significant exposure would be rare, as large masses of DU counterweights are unlikely to ignite and would oxidize only slowly. Exposures of clean-up and emergency workers to DU following aircraft accidents are possible, but normal occupational protection measures would prevent any significant exposure.

Following conflict, levels of DU contamination in food and drinking water might be detected in affected areas even after a few years. This should be monitored where it is considered there is a reasonable possibility of significant quantities of DU entering the ground water or food chain.

Small children could receive greater exposure to DU when playing in or near DU impact sites. Their typical hand-to-mouth activity could lead to high DU ingestion from contaminated soil. Necessary preventative measures should be taken.

And here in the US we are all upset about lead discovered in some painted toys coming from China.

 

[jstmike]

I was glad to find a rally where Ron Paul was asked about Depleted Uranium:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNUne7qPE1Y

He talks about it at 5:45

It's a problem that continues to exist since the first Persian golf war. But even now there are a lot of shells that use Depleted Uranium which provide health dangers to our personnel and civilians that will go on for decades. It's hard to identify it is hard to describe and yet our government you pay for it to use Depleted Uranium in shells that then linger and cause a lot of disease and we are facing a major major crisis in our ability in taking care of our veterans...

 

[jstmike]

Since there have been no real responses to this post I was wondering maybe I was the only one that didn't get the memo on this info. I truly beleive that if more people knew about this and the damage the US military is doing to the people and the earth then they would be anti-war for sure.

Is it that you don't understand or that you just don't care?

 

[thuja]

i care

Since there have been no real responses to this post I was wondering maybe I was the only one that didn't get the memo on this info. I truly beleive that if more people knew about this and the damage the US military is doing to the people and the earth then they would be anti-war for sure.

Is it that you don't understand or that you just don't care?

just sad.
also, those CFL bulbs that are supposedly so great contain mercury, and can be a haz mat situation in your own house if broken, as well as contributing to the mercury contamination of the earth when disposed of in landfills. few will send these to a toxic waste center, but will throw them in the trash. there are no warnings on the packages.

 

[XNavyNuke]

Here's a PDF of the data sheet from Argonne National Laboratory.

Depleted Uranium

... which is a compliment to their Uranium fact sheet.

XNN

 

[jstmike]

just sad.
also, those CFL bulbs that are supposedly so great contain mercury, and can be a haz mat situation in your own house if broken, as well as contributing to the mercury contamination of the earth when disposed of in landfills. few will send these to a toxic waste center, but will throw them in the trash. there are no warnings on the packages.

Thanks for responding. Yes that is crazy and I agree. Our government doesn't have a clue what they are doing.

But just think. DU is much worse than Mercury not only is it heavier is it radioactive. Now just image 2,200 + tons of the stuff dropped all over the country. Our military is poisoning the people and earth for generations.

I just got off the phone with my mom who is 70 and she was like "hey, I wouldn't doubt it and everyone else is probably using it plus I'm 70 and not going to last much longer. Why should I care? I can't worry about things like this."

I was speechless after that.

 

[jstmike]

Here's a PDF of the data sheet from Argonne National Laboratory.

Depleted Uranium

... which is a compliment to their Uranium fact sheet.

XNN

Thanks for the data sheets. It does seem a little old being produced in 2001.

Uranium has caused reproductive problems in laboratory animals and
developmental problems in young animals, but it is not known if these problems exist for humans.

With gulf war syndrome and with all the cancer and birth defect reports it seems that human testing has been now been done.

A search for DU Birth Defects turned up this page:

WARNING the pictures are very graphic:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html

The second link on the search was this 2002 report:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/95178_du12.shtml

 

[jstmike]

A very good article:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060119&articleId=1754

[The US CODE, TITLE 50, CHAPTER 40, SECTION 2302 defines a Weapon of Mass Destruction as follows: "The term 'weapon of mass destruction' means any weapon or device that is intended, or has the capability, to cause death or serious bodily injury to a significant number of people through the release, dissemination, or impact of (A) toxic or poisonous chemicals or their precursors, (B) a disease organism, or (C) radiation or radioactivity." Because the U.S. is a signatory to the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the U.S. military is violating its own military code. By using depleted uranium (which is clearly a WMD and thus illegal) in combat in 4 wars, the U.S. is clearly guilty of the very crime we claimed our right to go to war against Iraq to prevent.

In addition, under various UN Conventions and Covenants that are binding international law for its signatories, the use of any weapons that cause harm after the battle including away from the battlefield, harm the environment, or kill, wound or cause harm inhumanely are illegal and banned. DU weapons are poisonous under international law and violate all the above conditions. Even the seminal Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which is legally non-binding to its signatories, implies a moral duty never to use any weapons as potentially harmful as DU.

Leuren's work has revealed some shocking facts. Since the U.S. military first used DU weapons in the 1991 Gulf War, it has released the radioactive atomicity equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki nuclear bombs into the global atmosphere (that's no misprint) causing permanent contamination with a half-life of 4.5 billion years. Furthermore, that DU radiation is 10 times the amount released by all atmospheric testing which in total equaled 40,000 Hiroshima bombs (again, no misprint). The 2 atom bombs used against the Japanese killed a likely 300,000 or more people from the initial blasts and subsequent radiation and chemical poisoning deaths. To this day, there are still reported deaths attributed to the bombings. Now imagine the potential threat to all planetary life from all the DU weapons used since 1991 and their continued use in Iraq and Afghanistan - the equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombings and increasing daily as U.S. forces now are conducting 4 to 6 daily bombings of target sites in Iraq alone using DU bombs.

From its use already in 4 wars, the use of DU weapons is an act of insanity as well as possibly the greatest ever crime against humanity (and all other living species) and a war crime. Those responsible include 3 presidents, scores of high government officials and the Pentagon high command to include a lot of generals and admirals. These people are criminals. They're guilty of mass murder without end. They all should be made to answer for their crimes through indictment and trials both in our federal courts and at the International Criminal Court (ICC) at the Hague which was established in 2002 to try individuals for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. These people, or at least most of them, are guilty of all three crimes and should pay the highest price for them with no leniency. Their convictions should once and for all serve as a reminder to all future leaders that this type reckless behavior will never again be tolerated.

Imagine for a moment a reverse scenario. What if the U.K, France, Russia or China had bases in this country (bad enough) and additionally stored millions of DU bombs or other nuclear weapons on our soil. Would we citizens tolerate just the bases, let alone with DU bombs? Unlikely. Also imagine if the public here knew thousands or millions of these weapons were being stored on U.S. bases here, near where they lived.

 

[DaneKirk]

I'm sorry to say this but as a US Citizen I'm starting to realize that we are a evil empire.

Tell that to the countless poor and disaffected people around the world who would be dead right now if it were not for us. Keep things in perspective before you start running your mouth, not everything we do is bad. Oh ya, and the humanitarian deployments which are saving lives by giving basic medical care to victims in disaster areas around the world. Regardless of what you think about giving aid it is good to save people's loss. Maybe you should travel the world like me and then you would see how much good we do for others around the world that know one cares about. Quit your bitching, your life no matter how bad you think it is is 20 times better.

Yeah, we are really EVIL aren't we? Give me a break.... Your loyalty and love of your country seems to shift depending on who is in office at the time. And no I am not a neo-con or a troll, I just think you are way too narrow minded for your own good. I look forward to the hate mail I am sure to generate from this post.

 

[jstmike]

Another interesting article:

http://www.geocities.com/pwdyson/du1.html

DU is radioactive. So why is it called depleted?


The potentially misleading terms "depleted" and "enriched" refer to the amount of Uranium-235, not the amount of radioactivity. This is because it is the Uranium-235 that allows Uranium to be used in nuclear reactors or in bombs.
DU has less Uranium-235 than Yellowcake, i.e. it is depleted in Uranium-235. (As a result it has more Uranium-238 than Yellowcake. Both Uranium-235 and Uranium-238 are radioactive.)

1 g of newly created DU emits around 14600 alpha particles every second.

Not all of the USA's DU remains in storage. Military and civilian applications are increasingly being found for nuclear waste.

Depleted Uranium in Iraq
- DU shells and bullets were used during the Gulf War.

- This left around 300 tonnes of Uranium scattered around regions of Iraq.
- Bullets containing DU are still lying around in Iraq. The US has not warned Iraqis that handling these bullets means handling radioactive waste, so children play with them.
- US Gulf War veterans have tested positive to the presence of Uranium in their bodies
- Parts of Iraq have seen an inexplicable increase in birth defects: cause unknown.
- US Gulf War veterans have had children with similar birth defects: cause unknown.
- Calls for medical investigation into DU are increasing.

 

[jstmike]

I don't understand why Dr. Paul wouldn't run more with this story. He would be the champion of the world. It would be a good reason to stop these wars.

Here's another story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2884761.stm

Listen to them. They just don't want to admit a major problem.

People just need to Google Depleted Uranium:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Depleted+Uranium

Then if they want to be really shocked to click on Images:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Depleted+Uranium

 

[Richard in Austin]

Thanks for the data sheets. It does seem a little old being produced in 2001.



With gulf war syndrome and with all the cancer and birth defect reports it seems that human testing has been now been done.

A search for DU Birth Defects turned up this page:

WARNING the pictures are very graphic:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html

The second link on the search was this 2002 report:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/95178_du12.shtml

Dear God, those are disturbing pictures.

 

[jstmike]

I live in Washington state and I just found that our navy also uses Depleted Uranium and they've been using them off our coast for practice:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0109-02.htm

Toxic Ammo is Tested in Fish Areas
U.S. Navy uses depleted uranium in coast waters; activists may go to court

by Larry Johnson

The Navy routinely tests a weapon by firing radioactive, toxic ammunition in prime fishing areas off the coast of Washington, raising concerns from scientists, fishermen and activists.

The Navy insists the use of depleted uranium off the coast poses no threat to the environment. Depleted uranium, known as DU, is a highly dense metal that is the byproduct of the process during which fissionable uranium used to manufacture nuclear bombs and reactor fuel is separated from natural uranium. DU remains radioactive for about 4.5 billion years.

No major studies apparently have been done on the effects of such weapons in the ocean. Where depleted uranium munitions have been used in combat on land, such as in Iraq during the Gulf War, or in tests on land, such as Vieques island in Puerto Rico, they not only give off relatively small amounts of radiation, but produce toxic dust that can enter the food chain.

Seattle environmental attorney David Mann asked, "How can the Navy fire depleted uranium rounds and spread radioactive material into prime fishing areas off our coast?"

Sellers, however, said that only 400 to 600 rounds would be fired during a typical test at sea. And even though these tests have been going on since 1977, she said Navy environmental experts say that the DU dissolves very slowly in the ocean.

"It would be too diluted to distinguish from natural background uranium in the sea water," she said.

The weapon in question is the Phalanx, also known as a Close In Weapons System. Such a system is on virtually all U.S. Navy combat ships. It includes radar and rapid-fire 20mm guns. The guns are capable of firing up to 3,000 or 4,500 rounds per minute of depleted uranium, a superhard material prized for its armor-piercing ability.

The Defense Department says the military uses the munitions "because of DU's superior lethality against armor and other hard targets."

Although depleted uranium emits radiation, a second, potentially more serious hazard is created when a DU round hits a hard target. As much as 70 percent of the projectile can burn on impact, creating a firestorm of ceramic DU oxide particles. The residue of this firestorm is an extremely fine ceramic uranium dust that can be spread by the wind, inhaled and absorbed into the human body and absorbed by plants and animals, becoming part of the food chain.

Once in the soil, DU can pollute the environment and create up to a hundredfold increase in uranium levels in ground water, according to the U.N. Environmental Program

The Defense Department said DU munitions are "war reserve munitions; that is, used for combat and not fired for training purposes," with the exception that DU munitions may be fired at sea for weapon calibration purposes."

Another Navy spokeswoman described those firings at sea as "routine" and says they occur regularly off both the East and West coasts.

"If the firing is with DU, it's probably with what we call the Close in Weapons System, and it is routine," said Lt. Brauna Carl, a Navy spokeswoman in Washington, D.C., and a former gunnery officer who has worked with DU weapons.

When asked if the tests of DU rounds posed any health hazards, she replied, "God, I hope not. All I know is I haven't started glowing."

But Milner says, "It just makes sense that if DU can contaminate land and get into the food chain, then it would do the same thing in the sea."

They could care less about the environment or the human population.

 

[jstmike]

It looks like President George W. Bush was found guilty of war crimes. Did you know that? I didn't.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0712/S00015.htm

After 3 years of investigation by 60 expert witnesses and jurists at a cost of $1 million raised by Japanese citizens, the International Criminal Tribunal For Afghanistan at Tokyo on March 10, 2004 found President George W. Bush guilty of the war crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes for the use of depleted uranium (DU) weapons by US forces in the 2001 war against Afghanistan.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Afghanistan-Criminal-Tribunal10mar04.htm

International Criminal Tribunal For Afghanistan at Tokyo
Final Written Opinion of Judge Niloufer Bhagwat 10mar04
THE PEOPLE

Versus

GEORGE WALKER BUSH
President of the United States of America​

The Prosecution has presented a formidable Indictment against the Defendant, George Walker Bush, President of the United States and Commander -in-Chief of US military forces for serious crimes ; waging a war of aggression on Afghanistan, war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Afghan people, against prisoners of war ; and the use of radioactive depleted uranium weapons of mass destruction , against the people of Afghanistan ; with serious fall out effects on the military personnel of the United States ,UK and other forces deployed ; and on countries, in and around the region .

17.Verdict :

I find the Defendant , George Walker Bush , President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of United States Armed Forces guilty –

18. Direction :

1.The Defendant is a convicted war criminal consequently unfit to hold public office ; citizens ,soldiers and all civil personnel of the United States would be constitutionally and otherwise , justified in withdrawing all co-operation from the Defendant and his government ; and in declining to obey illegal orders of the Defendant and his administration ;including military orders threatening other nations or the people of the United States on the basis of the Nuremberg Principle, that illegal orders of Superior must not be obeyed.

A lot of detailed testimony and facts are given here as used in the case:

http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2003/Leuren-Moret-ICT13dec03.htm

More information on this:

http://www.zmag.org/content/Afghanistan/maeda_afghancrimes.cfm

 

[Victor]

Glad you Americans are waking up, and see the true axis of evil, the Clinton dynasty, Bush dynasty and the world bank.

If you want to follow the current events today, I would suggest www.therealnews.com

 

[Victor]

P.S And we don't hate America. We just hate your leaders, media, military industrial complex and of course the world bank that wants to own and use Americans to secure the earth's natural resources for their own evil agenda.

 

[jstmike]

Glad you Americans are waking up, and see the true axis of evil, the Clinton dynasty, Bush dynasty and the world bank.

If you want to follow the current events today, I would suggest www.therealnews.com

Thanks Victor. I've only gotten a few responses from my posts. One was about the horrors of 5mg of mercury in CFL bulbs like that would even come close to comparing it to DU. Then another saying I needed to shut up because the US does so much good around the world. But, hey I'm 46 and just woke up and learned about this stuff a week ago.

I'm still just trying to process all of this and then determine what I need to do personally. For one my hope is for Ron Paul to get in office and that is why I'm here and doing what I doing for that. But another thing I'm thinking about is not receiving any more income thus not having to pay any taxes to support these crimes. I just don't know.