Video Shows Man Gunned Down by Cops in OH Walmart Was Leaning on Air Rifle,Not Holding It

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The cctv video shows he was leaning on the air rifle, not holding it, not pointing it. Leaning on it "like it was a cane." Of course, leaning on an actual cane could get you shot by police also, so that's hardly a defense anymore.

Yet another summary execution by police. They got yet another exaggerated 911 call from some ninny and came ready to take out a bad guy. Maybe the grand jury will do the right thing and indict the killers (yeah, right).

Another interesting point I saw on another board, open-carry activists have been known to carry *real* AR-15s into department stores, and none have been gunned down (yet) -- so just simply having your hand on a rifle isn't just cause to be summarily executed (though I'm sure some of those open-carry guys would say this guy deserved it , for some reason or another).

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/...e-leaned-on-toy-gun-in-walmart-attorney-says/

Video shows police shot Ohio man ‘on sight’ as he leaned on toy gun in Walmart, attorney says
By Travis Gettys
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 14:55 EDT


Surveillance video shows an Ohio man talking on a cell phone, leaning on a toy gun, and facing away from officers moments before police shot and killed him in a Walmart store, according to an attorney for the man’s family.

John Crawford III died Aug. 5 after police were called to Walmart in Beavercreek, near Dayton, by another shopper who reported a man carrying what appeared to be an AR-15 rifle.

The 22-year-old Crawford was instead carrying an unpackaged MK-177 (.177 caliber) BB/pellet rifle he picked up in the store’s toy department.

Police claim Crawford ignored their commands to drop the weapon, and the former Marine who called in the report and witnessed the shooting said Crawford “looked like he was going to go violently.”

But attorney Michael Wright said surveillance video from the incident, which Ohio’s attorney general allowed him to watch with Crawford’s family, contradicted those accounts.

“John was doing nothing wrong in Walmart, nothing more, nothing less than shopping,” Wright said.

The attorney said surveillance video showed Crawford facing away from officers, talking on the phone, and leaning on the pellet gun like a cane when he was “shot on sight” in a “militaristic” response by police.

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine announced Tuesday handed the case over to a special prosecutor to present to a grand jury Sept. 22.

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Wright said the family objected to the piecemeal release of evidence, such as dispatch audio and video on the day of the shooting, was biased toward the police.

“Everything released is one-sided,” Wright said. “There is nothing favorable to John Crawford. You can’t show different pieces, show it all, don’t trickle pieces to gain favor of the public.”

He said the video suggests Crawford probably did not see or hear officers as they arrived.

Crawford was speaking by cell phone to his girlfriend, who was with his parents, when he was shot.

“He said he was at the video games playing videos, and he went over there by the toy section where the toy guns were,” said LeeCee Johnson, the mother of his two children. “The next thing I know, he said, ‘It’s not real,’ and the police start shooting, and they said ‘Get on the ground,’ but he was already on the ground because they had shot him.”

Johnson put the phone on speaker mode, and she and Crawford’s parents heard him die.

“I could hear him just crying and screaming,” Johnson said. “I feel like they shot him down like he was not even human.”

A 37-year-old woman at the store suffered an unspecified medical emergency after the shooting and died a short time later.

Sgt. David Darkow, one of the officers involved in the shooting, has already been allowed to resume his duties.

The other officer, Sean Williams, remains on administrative leave.

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Nah, I'm sure the "medical condition" that caused the woman to die had absolutely nothing to do with hearing shots fired, and cops screaming "get out of the store!". Just a bizarre coincidence.

Kind of like how people die of complications from an enlarged heart after being hit in the head a dozen times with a nightstick. Tragic, but not the cop's fault.
 
Here is a video interview starts at 3:27 where the events of the Walmart surveillance video is described by Crawfords father and attorney who was able to watch it.

 
http://www.whio.com/news/news/crime-law/ag-defends-not-releasing-video-walmart-shooting/nhCGy/

. It would be "playing with dynamite" to release the Walmart surveillance video of Beavercreek police shooting and killing John Crawford III because it may hinder prosecution of any defendants, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said.

In an exclusive interview with the newspaper, DeWine said Friday that releasing the video of the Aug. 5 police-involved shooting would allow a defense attorney to argue about a tainted jury pool.

Since the defendants in this case are the cops and they're talking about a jury pool, I think it's safe to infer the contents of the store video. If it were video of the same guy robbing a minimart do you think the cops would be sitting on the video or would it be all over the evening news? Farmer Mike gives special treatment to his sheepdog.

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This is the air rifle and box. The box is the same size and dimension as the air rifle.

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This would be the device used on it.

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You couldn't get the air rifle out of the box if it was on it.

Video should be released. (of course, and regardless)
 
Maybe he bought or was going to buy the floor model (no box) or a returned/refurbished item.
They're all in the box. No floor model.

Could have been a returned item if he was the one coming in to return it (absent a box).

I think they would have mentioned had he walked in the store with it and as well the family probably would have mentioned that he had one. The way the news cannot (from police reports, probably) establish that the air rifle, which will kill birds and possibly a person, (I suppose), was not in the toys section is troublesome.

The video would certainly confirm or deny theories on the incident. It would not surprise me if he was shot holding a box.

It's a very realistic looking box.
 
Police claim Crawford ignored their commands to drop the weapon, and the former Marine who called in the report and witnessed the shooting said Crawford “looked like he was going to go violently.”

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. So the Marine couldn't tell it was a air rifle and panicked? Really?
 
It would be "playing with dynamite" to release the Walmart surveillance video of Beavercreek police shooting and killing John Crawford III because it may hinder prosecution of any defendants, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said.

Uh, that would be a negative mush mouth. The jury would see the video during a trial. Guess we can't have them influenced by all those pointed Youtube comments.
 
Yeah, that's what I was thinking...

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Doesn't matter if it was packaged or not. If he didn't threaten anyone with the air rifle then it matters none whether the air rifle was in a box or not. Open carry is legal in Ohio and Walmart doesn't prohibit it. This man was shot down in cold blood.
 
Doesn't matter if it was packaged or not. If he didn't threaten anyone with the air rifle then it matters none whether the air rifle was in a box or not. Open carry is legal in Ohio and Walmart doesn't prohibit it. This man was shot down in cold blood.

but the officers feared for their lives, which is the most important thing
 
Hundreds of people showed up at a rally at that Walmart yesterday -- it's just too bad that idiot Al Sharpton is getting involved. A rally to support the police will be held today ... :rolleyes:

http://www.whio.com/news/news/john-crawford-supporters-rally-beavercreek/nhCcJ/

pdated: 5:28 p.m. Saturday, Aug. 30, 2014 | Posted: 1:23 p.m. Saturday, Aug. 30, 2014
Protestors: Al Sharpton to be in Beavercreek

BEAVERCREEK —

UPDATE @5:27 p.m.: Several hundred people showed up at a rally today at the Walmart in Beavercreek in support of the release of surveillance video that shows the shooting of John Crawford III.

The Fairfield man died after being shot by Beavercreek Police after a Riverside man called 911 to report that Crawford was in the store with a gun.

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Those at the rally were calling for Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine to release the store's surveillance footage to the public.

Several speakers at the rally accused DeWine of reneging on releasing the footage to the public.

Derrick Foward, president of the Dayton Unit NAACP, told the crowd that DeWine had told him in a meeting that he would release the video, but then went back on his word.

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He said the case is scheduled to be heard Sept. 22 by a Greene County grand jury.

UPDATE @ 2 p.m.: Protestors announced to the crowd that civil rights activist Al Sharpton will be in the Beavercreek area on Sept. 18.

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A rally supporting Beavercreek police is set to happen on Sunday.
 
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