VA - Rep. Don Beyer to introduce 1000 percent AR15 tax

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A House Democrat plans to introduce a bill that would hit AR-15s with a 1,000% tax — and it could pass Congress without GOP votes

https://www.businessinsider.com/dem...gress-gun-control-biden-administration-2022-6

The recent string of high-profile shootings in the US is prompting one House Democrat to draft a measure designed to severely restrict access to the AR-15-style weapons used by gunmen in the carnage. Rep. Don Beyer of Virginia, a member of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, wants to impose a 1,000% excise tax on such semiautomatic rifles.

"What it's intended to do is provide another creative pathway to actually make some sensible gun control happen," Beyer told Insider. "We think that a 1,000% fee on assault weapons is just the kind of restrictive measure that creates enough fiscal impact to qualify for reconciliation."

New AR-15-style guns cost anywhere from $500 to over $2,000 depending on location, NBC News reported. That means a 1,000% tax on the weapons would add $5,000 to $20,000 to their final sales prices — and would probably keep them out of reach from many younger Americans.

Some details of the bill still aren't finalized, such as when the tax would take effect and what to do with any revenue raised. It's also unclear how much money it would generate. The National Shooting Sports Foundation in a 2014 court brief cited estimates that AR-15-style rifles accounted for one in five guns purchased in the US. Gun sales have surged since then and last year reached their second-highest level recorded.

Law-enforcement agencies and the US military wouldn't be subject to the tax, Beyer said. The legislation would also apply only to future sales and not to the 20 million AR-15-style rifles already estimated to be in circulation across the US. Other guns used for hunting and other recreational purposes would also be exempt.

Bullets wouldn't be subject to the new tax. But high-capacity magazines that can carry more than 10 rounds of ammunition would be aggressively taxed at that level.

Beyer's definition of an "assault weapon" closely mirrors a measure that Rep. David Cicilline of Rhode Island is pushing. That bill would ban weapons with at least one military characteristic like a pistol grip or a forward grip.

House Democrats are rallying around their own expansive gun-control package separate from Senate negotiations on a narrower bill centered on mental health, red-flag laws, and a modest expansion of background checks. The House bill is expected to fall flat in the upper chamber with stiff GOP resistance.

That likelihood prompted Beyer to eye reconciliation, the legislative tactic allowing proposed laws to bypass the Senate's 60-vote threshold known as the filibuster and pass with a simple majority. Democrats employed the maneuver in 2021 to approve both the stimulus law and the House-approved Build Back Better bill over united GOP resistance.

One expert says Beyer's measure most likely qualifies for inclusion in a smaller spending bill containing pieces of President Joe Biden's climate and tax agenda. Democrats hope to revive it by summer's end.

"Taxes get more deference in budget reconciliation than other policies from a parliamentarian point of view," Zach Moller, the director of the economic program at the center-left Third Way think tank, told Insider.

"So a pure excise tax that isn't set so high as to end all sales should pass the Byrd rule," Moller said, referring the rule governing what meets the requirements to be included in a filibuster-proof bill.
 
Beyer's definition of an "assault weapon" closely mirrors a measure that Rep. David Cicilline of Rhode Island is pushing. That bill would ban weapons with at least one military characteristic like a pistol grip or a forward grip.

Will anyone in the media please, please, just do your jobs and ask this guy the simple question of what difference it makes if a rifle has a pistol grip or not.

Also, I assume that his bill would not cover aftermarket modifications that add pistol grips and forward grips to guns that were sold without them. Obviously if anybody really wants those, they'll just pay an extra 50 bucks or whatever to do that instead of an extra $10,000 to pay a tax that can be so easily avoided.

The "high capacity" magazine tax will be a slightly bigger deal. But it will be easily gotten around too.
 
what difference it makes if a rifle has a pistol grip or not.

Because you can't hold an overhand grip rifle like this:

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The Left lives in a delusion where they believe that the world literally runs on terror (fear). To clarify, they believe that the world runs on terror, not violence. That is, the scariest person in the room is the most powerful. Not the most violent person. Hence, Clown World. So, popular gun ownership of weapons that are associated with "scary stuff" in movies -- like pistol-grip rifles, suppressors, etc. -- is what gives the people power, more than any actual ability to shoot back. So, their belief is that the reason the local police push back on the idea of a mass gun-grab is that the police themselves are scared of the form-factor of the weapons that the public are permitted to own -- "assault rifles". Mind you, this is their own deluded reasoning. I won't go into the psychology of the right-wing which is equally delusional, in a different way...
 
I would call my rifles lgbt and only sell them in 30 cal with ten round magazines and no pistol grip in snow camo. Then the media and leftists would demand everyone buy them. Id sell aftermarket kits with 30 round mags and bayonets under a different co name ( Danke).
 
I would call my rifles lgbt and only sell them in 30 cal with ten round magazines and no pistol grip in snow camo. Then the media and leftists would demand everyone buy them. Id sell aftermarket kits with 30 round mags and bayonets under a different co name ( Danke).

I see where you're going with this... I mean, we could just put a rainbow wrap on it, call it a GAY-R 15 and if they try to ban it, we can accuse them of hating gays and wanting to drown puppies. A box-cutter and a quick peel of the wrap, and you got yourself a fully legal non-gay AR-15.

At a certain point, the level of absurdity in Clown World becomes so extreme that all you can do is mock it. There is nothing even remotely serious about this nonsense...

 
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Beyer's definition of an "assault weapon" closely mirrors a measure that Rep. David Cicilline of Rhode Island is pushing. That bill would ban weapons with at least one military characteristic like a pistol grip or a forward grip.

 
Maybe this will make AK's more popular...

All kidding aside, the momentum is big, these people really do not want anyone to have a gun. Having said that, it's a right but at the same time 18 year old's aren't what they used to be. Especially if they're on some kind of drugs or just lost without a father or whatever. What's the best way to stop/reduce this kind of mass murder?
 
Klutuk , (alaskan aboriginal rumoured to be from a tainted line involving bad Viking blood from rape) often referred to as The Mad Trapper of Bristol Bay killed hundreds of people with a Bow and a .30 .30. Rumored to be born in 1893 his murder spree is said to have begun in 1919 and lasted until at least until somewhere around 1929-1938. Like Albert Johnson ( Mad Trapper of Rat River ) nobody knows his real name.
 
All kidding aside, the momentum is big, these people really do not want anyone to have a gun. Having said that, it's a right but at the same time 18 year old's aren't what they used to be.

Age is not the issue, culture is the issue. I received my first firearm when I was 11. Like any 11-year-old, I was not even close to mature. But I understood that certain things are too serious to joke about, even a little bit, because I was taught that and it was role-modeled to me. That brain-module is not being installed in most of our younger generation. For many of them, 30 is still not old enough to be trusted with a weapon because they've never yet fallen off a bicycle and gotten gravel in their palms. They don't understand the meaning of the word "serious" as in completely not f-ing around at all. But that has nothing to do with age, and everything to do with culture. 30 years ago, I think we can argue that most kids at age 18 were more mature than most kids today, at the same age. But there were child-adults even then... 30 or 40 year old adults who should absolutely know better, but go ahead and pull some stupid stunt anyway. In other words, the problems created by an unserious mind were present then, as now. All that has changed is prevalence.

Especially if they're on some kind of drugs or just lost without a father or whatever. What's the best way to stop/reduce this kind of mass murder?

First, stop engaging with fantasies. These shootings are all FAKE News. Does that mean there are no shootings occurring? Of course not. But news about the world is something that we are supposed to believe is organically emerging from wild terrain and our uninvolved news reporters are like Nature photographers, capturing Nature in all her extemporaneous glory. Instead, what is actually occurring is that the news is being cultivated in huge gardens, camouflaged as a "jungle". It's like when you find out that those dramatic bug wars on BBC Earth, voiced over by David Attenborough, are mostly shot in a studio with studio lighting, green screens and the rest of it. FBI agents coaching and goading mentally unstable individuals to commit an act of atrocity, such as with the Portland bombing, or mentally ill individuals not being properly diagnosed and receiving effective treatment (NOT drugs), or individuals being put on "anti-psychotic" drugs that actually make them.. psychotic, or gangland shootings being passed off as "mass shooting statistics" -- and so on and so forth. All of these dirty tricks are concealed from the righteously naive US public who is led to believe that the BBC Earth photographers are actually crouching under an anthill in the forests of the Amazon, filming tiny little ant-beetle wars, when it's more or less all a mock-up, cleverly edited together with real footage from the field to weave a narrative.

"The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper names." -- Confucius

The FAKE News is FAKE. That's its proper name. Propaganda. Soviet Pravda. Agitprop. Psyops. Information warfare. Disinformation. Deception. Counter-intelligence programs. And so on. As soon as you start calling things by their proper name, the entire social problem suddenly becomes crystal clear.
 
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