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US Henchmen Violently Arrest Assange! Show Trial To Follow.
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That’s optimistic. I’d expect more like 50.
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Trump trying to distance himself from Wikileaks after praising and even asking for their help during the campaign. "I know nothing."
https://www.theguardian.com/media/l...0852bbb93b65a5#block-5caf6f448f0852bbb93b65a5
https://www.theguardian.com/media/l...0852bbb93b65a5#block-5caf6f448f0852bbb93b65a5
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That's optimistic. I'd expect more like 5.
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Very sad.
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Trump today said he doesn't even know what Wikileaks is. He won't pardon Assange. Assange is no longer useful to him so like many others he has been dropped and designated "persona non grata".
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You are fake news, a liar and a scumbag constantly peddling the establishment narrative. It is obvious you have no desire for anybody to have any factual or truthful information.
Trump did not say he didn't know who they were. He said he didn't know anything about them. What he obviously meant was he didn't know what was going on with them currently, or that he didn't have any information about wikileaks about the arrest.
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[TD]From RPI: Assange and the Return of the Show Trials
the arrest and likely extradition of Wikileaks publisher Julian Assange, who was literally sold out for the proverbial 30 pieces of silver (or in this case it was a $4.2 billion IMF loan to Ecuador approved just last month)! Vice President Mike Pence was in Ecuador last June to push a quid pro quo with the recently elected Ecuadorian president, Lenin Moreno: You hand us Assange and we'll make sure you get your loan.
And do he did and so they did.
Assange was indicted by the US Attorney's Eastern District of Virginia's "espionage court" on charges of conspiracy to hack a government computer. As whistleblower John Kiriakou Tweeted today, his chance of a fair trial in that court is virtually none. His chance of being extradited by a UK all too eager to please its former colony is virtually 100 percent. …
The conspiracy charge is far less than many expected, carrying a possible jail term of a mere five years. This is likely to … provide cover - for the UK to extradite Assange to the US where there is little doubt additional charges - perhaps including espionage with a possible death sentence … British officials can wash their hands of the affair … once out of their hand Assange faces a lifetime in solitary confinement in a supermax facility or perhaps worse. …
the extradition of Assange to the US will not be to carry out justice, but rather to carry out an old-fashioned show trial. Anyone who's read the history of Soviet show trials in the 1930s - or even read Arthur Koestler's masterpiece Darkness at Noon - understands they are not at all about meting out justice or punishing those convicted of a crime. The purpose of a show trial - and Assange's will be no different - is pour encourager les autres: to ensure that any future journalist who considers publishing material embarrassing to the state or exposing real state crimes will quickly perish the thought. Lest he or she perish.
The success of totalitarian societies is not the omnipresence of coercive enforcement. A totalitarian society is only fully totalitarian when there is no need for enforcement: one would not dream of breaking the rules.
The state murder of a journalist who dared publish material showing beyond a doubt that the US military was not "liberating" Iraq and Afghanistan but rather willfully and with glee committing acts of terrorism against the citizens of these countries sends a very strong signal. … mainstream "journalists" rarely publish any exposées as damaging as those published by Wikileaks. Today's "journalists" are by and large joined at the hip with the intelligence agents they rely on for "scoops." … Just as "journalists" in Soviet times would not dare report what their government was really up to. …
- we will see a distortion of facts in attempt to establish that the charges he faces have nothing to do with a free press or an independent media. Already national security state apologists are dutifully repeating claims that this is only about hacking. …
Of course it is not about hacking. Any journalist cultivating confidential sources provides assistance to the source in getting the material. From teaching basic encryption or other methods, this is common practice.
Next there will be breathless "revelations" about Assange meant to increase the costs of vocally supporting him. … salacious material will be "discovered." Maybe allegations of financial impropriety. He's already been accused of being in bed with white supremacists for the perceived assistance he provided the Trump campaign by releasing emails demonstrating the corruption in the Democratic Party nominating process. …
It's plenty if these "revelations" just cause people to think twice before publicly defending him. Make it costly to defend him and most people will move on to something else. …
President Trump, who could hardly get through a rally when he was a candidate without praising Wikileaks today claimed, "I know nothing about Wikileaks, it's not my thing." …
After Assange there is very unlikely to be more Assanges. We will never know the crimes committed in our name in places like Syria, Venezuela, and elsewhere on the neocon map of future atrocities. And that's the point.
Our own dictatorship slips the choker one little bit tighter. Our mental prisons are latched just one bit further. The metaphoric boot begins stamping down on our necks a bit more perceptibly. …
We can prevent this. Understand that everything the state tells you is a lie. Fight the lies. Build networks of like-minded people. Resist. While you can! …[/TD]
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[TD]From RPI: Assange and the Return of the Show Trials
the arrest and likely extradition of Wikileaks publisher Julian Assange, who was literally sold out for the proverbial 30 pieces of silver (or in this case it was a $4.2 billion IMF loan to Ecuador approved just last month)! Vice President Mike Pence was in Ecuador last June to push a quid pro quo with the recently elected Ecuadorian president, Lenin Moreno: You hand us Assange and we'll make sure you get your loan.
And do he did and so they did.
Assange was indicted by the US Attorney's Eastern District of Virginia's "espionage court" on charges of conspiracy to hack a government computer. As whistleblower John Kiriakou Tweeted today, his chance of a fair trial in that court is virtually none. His chance of being extradited by a UK all too eager to please its former colony is virtually 100 percent. …
The conspiracy charge is far less than many expected, carrying a possible jail term of a mere five years. This is likely to … provide cover - for the UK to extradite Assange to the US where there is little doubt additional charges - perhaps including espionage with a possible death sentence … British officials can wash their hands of the affair … once out of their hand Assange faces a lifetime in solitary confinement in a supermax facility or perhaps worse. …
the extradition of Assange to the US will not be to carry out justice, but rather to carry out an old-fashioned show trial. Anyone who's read the history of Soviet show trials in the 1930s - or even read Arthur Koestler's masterpiece Darkness at Noon - understands they are not at all about meting out justice or punishing those convicted of a crime. The purpose of a show trial - and Assange's will be no different - is pour encourager les autres: to ensure that any future journalist who considers publishing material embarrassing to the state or exposing real state crimes will quickly perish the thought. Lest he or she perish.
The success of totalitarian societies is not the omnipresence of coercive enforcement. A totalitarian society is only fully totalitarian when there is no need for enforcement: one would not dream of breaking the rules.
The state murder of a journalist who dared publish material showing beyond a doubt that the US military was not "liberating" Iraq and Afghanistan but rather willfully and with glee committing acts of terrorism against the citizens of these countries sends a very strong signal. … mainstream "journalists" rarely publish any exposées as damaging as those published by Wikileaks. Today's "journalists" are by and large joined at the hip with the intelligence agents they rely on for "scoops." … Just as "journalists" in Soviet times would not dare report what their government was really up to. …
- we will see a distortion of facts in attempt to establish that the charges he faces have nothing to do with a free press or an independent media. Already national security state apologists are dutifully repeating claims that this is only about hacking. …
Of course it is not about hacking. Any journalist cultivating confidential sources provides assistance to the source in getting the material. From teaching basic encryption or other methods, this is common practice.
Next there will be breathless "revelations" about Assange meant to increase the costs of vocally supporting him. … salacious material will be "discovered." Maybe allegations of financial impropriety. He's already been accused of being in bed with white supremacists for the perceived assistance he provided the Trump campaign by releasing emails demonstrating the corruption in the Democratic Party nominating process. …
It's plenty if these "revelations" just cause people to think twice before publicly defending him. Make it costly to defend him and most people will move on to something else. …
President Trump, who could hardly get through a rally when he was a candidate without praising Wikileaks today claimed, "I know nothing about Wikileaks, it's not my thing." …
After Assange there is very unlikely to be more Assanges. We will never know the crimes committed in our name in places like Syria, Venezuela, and elsewhere on the neocon map of future atrocities. And that's the point.
Our own dictatorship slips the choker one little bit tighter. Our mental prisons are latched just one bit further. The metaphoric boot begins stamping down on our necks a bit more perceptibly. …
We can prevent this. Understand that everything the state tells you is a lie. Fight the lies. Build networks of like-minded people. Resist. While you can! …[/TD]
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Moreno started to crack down on and encourage Assange to leave pretty much as soon as he took office- starting with cutting off his internet in 2017. Ecuador said it spend $6.2 million to take care of Assange and he wanted him to leave. Pence did not meet with Moreno until June, 2018.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-drawn-out-dispute-with-ecuador-idUSKCN1RO026
Wikileaks posting private photographs and information on Moreno helped encourage the eviction.
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Chelsea and Julian are in Jail. History Trembles.
(Unethical Judge Michael Snow is a complete disgrace to the judiciary and bar.)
Tonight both Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange are in jail, both over offences related to the publication of materials specifying US war crimes … No matter what bullshit political and MSM liars try to feed you, that is the simple truth. Manning and Assange are true heroes of our time, and are suffering for it.
If a Russian opposition politician were dragged out by armed police, and within three hours had been convicted on a political charge by a patently biased judge with no jury, with a lengthy jail sentence to follow, can you imagine the Western media reaction to that kind of kangaroo court? Yet that is exactly what just happened in London.
District Judge Michael Snow is a disgrace to the bench who deserves to be infamous well beyond his death. He displayed the most plain and open prejudice against Assange in the 15 minutes it took for him to hear the case and declare Assange guilty, in a fashion which makes the dictators’ courts … look fair and reasonable, in comparison to the gross charade of justice conducted by Michael Snow. …
Julian Assange said nothing during the whole brief proceedings, other than to say “Not guilty” twice, and to ask a one sentence question about why the charges were changed midway through this sham “trial”. Yet Judge Michael Snow condemned Assange as “narcissistic”. There was nothing that happened in Snow’s brief court hearing that could conceivably have given rise to that opinion. It was plainly something he brought with him into the courtroom … It was in short the very definition of prejudice, and “Judge” Michael Snow and his summary judgement is a total disgrace. …
To support the persecution of Assange in these circumstances is to support absolute state censorship of the internet. … this US claim involves an astonishing boost to universal jurisdiction. Assange was nowhere near the USA when he published the documents, but nonetheless US courts are willing to claim jurisdiction. This is a threat to press and internet freedom everywhere. …
(Unethical Judge Michael Snow is a complete disgrace to the judiciary and bar.)
Tonight both Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange are in jail, both over offences related to the publication of materials specifying US war crimes … No matter what bullshit political and MSM liars try to feed you, that is the simple truth. Manning and Assange are true heroes of our time, and are suffering for it.
If a Russian opposition politician were dragged out by armed police, and within three hours had been convicted on a political charge by a patently biased judge with no jury, with a lengthy jail sentence to follow, can you imagine the Western media reaction to that kind of kangaroo court? Yet that is exactly what just happened in London.
District Judge Michael Snow is a disgrace to the bench who deserves to be infamous well beyond his death. He displayed the most plain and open prejudice against Assange in the 15 minutes it took for him to hear the case and declare Assange guilty, in a fashion which makes the dictators’ courts … look fair and reasonable, in comparison to the gross charade of justice conducted by Michael Snow. …
Julian Assange said nothing during the whole brief proceedings, other than to say “Not guilty” twice, and to ask a one sentence question about why the charges were changed midway through this sham “trial”. Yet Judge Michael Snow condemned Assange as “narcissistic”. There was nothing that happened in Snow’s brief court hearing that could conceivably have given rise to that opinion. It was plainly something he brought with him into the courtroom … It was in short the very definition of prejudice, and “Judge” Michael Snow and his summary judgement is a total disgrace. …
To support the persecution of Assange in these circumstances is to support absolute state censorship of the internet. … this US claim involves an astonishing boost to universal jurisdiction. Assange was nowhere near the USA when he published the documents, but nonetheless US courts are willing to claim jurisdiction. This is a threat to press and internet freedom everywhere. …
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