University of Colorado Denver Students for Rand rally on October 27th

I really wish someone would clue Rand in on who chooses the nominee. It's not the liberal kids from Denver, it's the conservatives from El Paso county, which is where most of the CO GOP is based out of. If he's not focused on them, he doesn't stand a chance in this battleground state.
 
I really wish someone would clue Rand in on who chooses the nominee. It's not the liberal kids from Denver, it's the conservatives from El Paso county, which is where most of the CO GOP is based out of. If he's not focused on them, he doesn't stand a chance in this battleground state.

Older people also don't like liberty according to polls. What Rand and his father have been doing is building the base. Many of us are here, involved in politics, because of them.
 
I really wish someone would clue Rand in on who chooses the nominee. It's not the liberal kids from Denver, it's the conservatives from El Paso county, which is where most of the CO GOP is based out of. If he's not focused on them, he doesn't stand a chance in this battleground state.

He tried that and it failed miserably. Ron called for legalalizing heroin and still drew a big chunk of the evangelical and old person vote in Iowa. The things you would want him to focus on are already covered by other candidates and Rand will never appeal to them on those issues like those other candidates. He can't be neocon lite. He's always the one saying don't be democrat lite. Same logic.
 
This is right before the next debate, right? Which is also in Colorado. Could be great publicity, if there is a huge turnout, and if the media covers it.
 
Yeah, the debate is the next day at the University of Colorado Boulder campus.

And since students won't be able to get in to see the debate, it makes sense that he would hold a rally for them.
 
Yeah, the debate is the next day at the University of Colorado Boulder campus.

And since students won't be able to get in to see the debate, it makes sense that he would hold a rally for them.

Then the students should be outside the entrance the night of chanting Rand!!!

Kinda of stupid to have a debate at a college while banning students.
 
Then the students should be outside the entrance the night of chanting Rand!!!

Kinda of stupid to have a debate at a college while banning students.

Right, you'd sort of think the audience would be made up of students and faculty members... Just shows what kind of a farce these debates are to begin with. It's all about the appearance of being relevant.
 
Older people also don't like liberty according to polls. What Rand and his father have been doing is building the base. Many of us are here, involved in politics, because of them.

Building the base for what? Rand's son? He needs Republicans now to support him and his delegates. Like it or not, the older more conservative types from the Springs run the party in CO. They control the slates, which is the most important thing for winning. And right now, they seem to be leaning towards Carson, because he shows up once in a while. They aren't going to vote for kids from Denver, they've never seen before, to go to national. They vote for people they know.

Back in '12, the campaign didn't even remember to provide precinct packets for the caucuses in El Paso county. It was like he wasn't even running. Which is why they all gravitated to Santorum. And then the campaign had people vote for a slate of Santorum-only delegates because they were either too lazy to vet them or they just didn't know how, because they spent no time building a relationship with local party members. It was embarrassing to watch.
 
Building the base for what? Rand's son? He needs Republicans now to support him and his delegates. Like it or not, the older more conservative types from the Springs run the party in CO. They control the slates, which is the most important thing for winning. And right now, they seem to be leaning towards Carson, because he shows up once in a while. They aren't going to vote for kids from Denver, they've never seen before, to go to national. They vote for people they know.

Back in '12, the campaign didn't even remember to provide precinct packets for the caucuses in El Paso county. It was like he wasn't even running. Which is why they all gravitated to Santorum. And then the campaign had people vote for a slate of Santorum-only delegates because they were either too lazy to vet them or they just didn't know how, because they spent no time building a relationship with local party members. It was embarrassing to watch.

Have you contacted the campaign to assist them with the knowledge you have of the Republicans in Colorado? I am sure they can use your help in Colorado.
 
Have you contacted the campaign to assist them with the knowledge you have of the Republicans in Colorado? I am sure they can use your help in Colorado.

The coordinators from the '08 campaign understood the local scene quite well and were pushing a caucus strategy long before the RP people embraced it. But they got tired of dealing with Benton and Tate, and chose not to come back in '12. Instead we got a couple CFL kids who had no clue what they were doing and no knowledge of the local scene. And they took advice from nobody other than Benton and kept everyone else in the dark.

One of them, Matt Holdridge, was actively working against us, substituting Santorum delegates for RP delegates on the official slate. When CD 5 attempted to run a slate of actual RP delegates, he came down, promised to support us (with over 60 witnesses), and then told people in other counties that we were Romney moles as he pushed his Santorum slate anyway and then lied to the national campaign by counting the Santorum people (who ended up voting for Romney) as RP delegates. That's why our numbers were so inflated.

We lost so many people after that back stabbing, that you aren't going to find many El Paso County Ron Paulers who are willing to go through it again. Myself included. I finally understand why the '08 people wouldn't come back. However, I was contacted by a local guy yesterday, who's working with the campaign. He does understand the local scene, so hopefully he'll be able to clue them in. But I doubt they'll listen. From what I understand, Rand has been invited to be the Lincoln Day Dinner speaker, but declined it. That tells me he's already written off Colorado. I think he just comes here for the marijuana industry money. Which would explain his focus on Denver.
 
Pretty sure Colorado got rid of both its primary and caucus last I heard.
 
Pretty sure Colorado got rid of both its primary and caucus last I heard.

No, they just got rid of the straw poll. State chair used it to bind the votes of the national delegates in '12 (even though there wasn't a clear provision to do that), so the grassroots worked to abolish it. So there's still a caucus system, but you won't hear about any Colorado outcome come caucus night.
 
The coordinators from the '08 campaign understood the local scene quite well and were pushing a caucus strategy long before the RP people embraced it. But they got tired of dealing with Benton and Tate, and chose not to come back in '12. Instead we got a couple CFL kids who had no clue what they were doing and no knowledge of the local scene. And they took advice from nobody other than Benton and kept everyone else in the dark.

One of them, Matt Holdridge, was actively working against us, substituting Santorum delegates for RP delegates on the official slate. When CD 5 attempted to run a slate of actual RP delegates, he came down, promised to support us (with over 60 witnesses), and then told people in other counties that we were Romney moles as he pushed his Santorum slate anyway and then lied to the national campaign by counting the Santorum people (who ended up voting for Romney) as RP delegates. That's why our numbers were so inflated.

We lost so many people after that back stabbing, that you aren't going to find many El Paso County Ron Paulers who are willing to go through it again. Myself included. I finally understand why the '08 people wouldn't come back. However, I was contacted by a local guy yesterday, who's working with the campaign. He does understand the local scene, so hopefully he'll be able to clue them in. But I doubt they'll listen. From what I understand, Rand has been invited to be the Lincoln Day Dinner speaker, but declined it. That tells me he's already written off Colorado. I think he just comes here for the marijuana industry money. Which would explain his focus on Denver.

I remember that. At the time, people were spinning it as a win because it was a "unity slate" to block out Mitt, but 2 or 3 on here were consistently calling bullshit over the next few months until it was finally revealed those delegates were in the tank for Mitt.
 
The coordinators from the '08 campaign understood the local scene quite well and were pushing a caucus strategy long before the RP people embraced it. But they got tired of dealing with Benton and Tate, and chose not to come back in '12. Instead we got a couple CFL kids who had no clue what they were doing and no knowledge of the local scene. And they took advice from nobody other than Benton and kept everyone else in the dark.

One of them, Matt Holdridge, was actively working against us, substituting Santorum delegates for RP delegates on the official slate. When CD 5 attempted to run a slate of actual RP delegates, he came down, promised to support us (with over 60 witnesses), and then told people in other counties that we were Romney moles as he pushed his Santorum slate anyway and then lied to the national campaign by counting the Santorum people (who ended up voting for Romney) as RP delegates. That's why our numbers were so inflated.

We lost so many people after that back stabbing, that you aren't going to find many El Paso County Ron Paulers who are willing to go through it again. Myself included. I finally understand why the '08 people wouldn't come back. However, I was contacted by a local guy yesterday, who's working with the campaign. He does understand the local scene, so hopefully he'll be able to clue them in. But I doubt they'll listen. From what I understand, Rand has been invited to be the Lincoln Day Dinner speaker, but declined it. That tells me he's already written off Colorado. I think he just comes here for the marijuana industry money. Which would explain his focus on Denver.

Do you think a Rand win in Iowa and or New Hampshire would fire up the 08 crowd again?
 
Do you think a Rand win in Iowa and or New Hampshire would fire up the 08 crowd again?

The '08 people I was referring to were campaign workers, who are still fired up and fighting for liberty, they're just more focused on various local issues, rather than presidential runs. I'm sure they'd be quite happy to see Rand do well in Iowa or New Hampshire.
 
I really wish someone would clue Rand in on who chooses the nominee. It's not the liberal kids from Denver, it's the conservatives from El Paso county, which is where most of the CO GOP is based out of. If he's not focused on them, he doesn't stand a chance in this battleground state.
Why always the "focus on the Colorado Springs GOP", an old geezer war machine so dependent on world war superiority for their growth, all while the Denver metro is booming (?)
El Paso County might find it just might get left out of the new, younger, future GOP which supports real fiscal conservatism and a drop in military spending with a balanced budget helping support USA jobs.

So, . . . Rand is in the Denver metro area for the debate and schedules an event in an area he will have easy support.
Colorado Springs and Pueblo can always just watch Fox as the usual GOP source to learn all that they know about everything -
- or just wait for the young-uns to get back from the UC-Denver rally to tell ya' 'bout it.

Auraria campus has a couple community colleges as well, and alot of great public transportation -
come on up from UC-Colorado Springs if you want, as well as UC-Boulder or Colorado State University.







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Pretty sure Colorado got rid of both its primary and caucus last I heard.

They cancelled the presidential straw poll part of the GOP caucus . . . state law says the caucus can be on the first Tuesday of Feb. or March.
Iowa moved later from early January so Colorado would be penalized if they did an Iowa-styled straw poll on caucus night, as I understand it.
 
Then the students should be outside the entrance the night of chanting Rand!!!

Kinda of stupid to have a debate at a college while banning students.

University is getting much criticism for all the expenses incurred including security and class re-scheduling.
Some media trucks in town may cover the student march from Boulder city park band shell to rec fields across the stadium from debate.

Activists hope to draw 10,000 to Boulder march during GOP debate
http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-news/ci_28942316/activists-hope-draw-10-000-boulder-march-during

So, Denver campus on the 27th, with the student march in nearby Boulder on the next day.
 
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