Trump ban is not anti-Muslim, but anti-Iranian, pro-Israel

[cindy25]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

 

[MallsRGood]

Did you vote for Trump?

 

[oyarde]

Iran is a hardcore communist regime as stated plainly in the constitution they observe , the state owns , well , everything . They will retaliate and forbid US visitors . Personally , I care squat about Iran and I can include Afghanistan and Saud in there as well .

 

[UWDude]

This is how it looks to me too. Bad omen.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

Everyone was rightly hammering them about this today. The officials all had the answer ready: they used Obama's list (apparently it was also used by Congress for some things). Seems like they probably planned to turn it back around on the left. In other words, the defense will be, if Obama's list was acceptable, why is this list not acceptable? I would expect it to be used in court.

 

[TommyJeff]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

Weren't these 7 counties selected by the prior administration?

 

[TommyJeff]

Everyone was rightly hammering them about this today. The officials all had the answer ready: they used Obama's list (apparently it was also used by Congress for some things). Seems like they probably planned to turn it back around on the left. In other words, the defense will be, if Obama's list was acceptable, why is this list not acceptable? I would expect it to be used in court.

I heard the same.

 

[cindy25]

Did you vote for Trump?

yes, although more of an anti-Hillary vote

 

[cindy25]

Weren't these 7 counties selected by the prior administration?

yes, and with regard to refugees or new applicants for visas it not bad. but to apply it to green card holders, people who might have left Iran or Syria 40 years, is just insane. people who left Iran after the 1979 Islamic takeover are subject to it. Iraqis who worked for the US military are subject to it. even members of the military born in those countries, and not yet citizens are subject to it. no one wants to have a situation like Germany. it just went too far.

just imagine Green card holders from other countries, and their families. they will be afraid to travel for fear a stupid executive order could affect them. and it could, if some nut from England or France does something, the entire country would be banned?

 

[cindy25]

Iran is a hardcore communist regime as stated plainly in the constitution they observe , the state owns , well , everything . They will retaliate and forbid US visitors . Personally , I care squat about Iran and I can include Afghanistan and Saud in there as well .

I don't care about the Iranian govt either, although they are not communist. a religious theocracy yes-but so is Saudi Arabia, UAE, QAtar, Kuwait. its not oil-Iran has oil. its Israel

 

[MallsRGood]

yes, although more of an anti-Hillary vote

Yea, well, let me know in a couple months how that works out for you...

...empowering somebody like Trump (cartoon character)

...destroying whatever remains of conservationism by associating it with him, etc.

It's gonna be GREAT!

 

[enhanced_deficit]

While it may have such symbolism, hard to call it "anti muslim" considering that Saudi Arabia and vast majority of the 40-50 Islamic countries are not on the list.

OTOH, if it was "pro Israel" or if Trump was following Israeli example, shouldn't mainstream neocons like Schumer, McCain, Graham etc be supporting it instead of criticising this?
Two and two don't seem to add up.

Chuck Schumer gets emotional over immigration

Jun 11, 2010
Schumer Says It ‘Makes Sense’ To ‘Strangle [Gaza] Economically’ Until It Votes The Way Israel Wants

U.S. Senate Unanimously Approves Resolution Giving Full Support of Israel on Gaza
The resolution had 78 bipartisan co-sponsors and was introduced by Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) The House passed a similar res. July 11.
Jul 20, 2014
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.606183

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yea, well, let me know in a couple months how that works out for you...

...empowering somebody like Trump (cartoon character)

...destroying whatever remains of conservationism by associating it with him, etc.

It's gonna be GREAT!

Nah, that would be the open borders marxists and the neocons who did that.

I do agree that Trump should have included Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan.

 

[oyarde]

I don't care about the Iranian govt either, although they are not communist. a religious theocracy yes-but so is Saudi Arabia, UAE, QAtar, Kuwait. its not oil-Iran has oil. its Israel

The Iranian constitution is clearly marxist throughout . Saud is just a country of wahabbism so I guess it could be a nutjob religious theocracy . Mostly it is just a shithole full of stupid people with no job skills and all skilled labor hired out to foreigners .

 

[seapilot]

Yea, well, let me know in a couple months how that works out for you...

...empowering somebody like Trump (cartoon character)

...destroying whatever remains of conservationism by associating it with him, etc.

It's gonna be GREAT!

Voting does not really change anything. I did not vote for anybody, am I guilty for trump actions by not voting for the hag?

 

[oyarde]

Weren't these 7 counties selected by the prior administration?

Yes .

 

[oyarde]

Did you vote for Trump?

I did not .

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Did you vote for Trump?

Did you vote for Clinton?

 

[Contumacious]

That is correct. The ban is intended to provoke Iran and has NOTHING to do with national security.

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[Carlybee]

We need us a good war dontcha know?

#neoconsrback