Either these primaries are rigged or Americans are retarded. Either way it might be time to look at options for leaving the US and building our own state. It could be anything from a location in South America or Antarctica to a micro-nation on a ship/floating island. From what I am seeing so far, it is going to be McCain and Romney VS Hillary and Obama. McCain is by far the worst of these neocons but they are all as bad as Bush (if not worse).
Time to bail on the US?
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I'm with you, but first I will make a final stand, Ron Paul is the answer. I will not let America be sold to China, American's imprisoned for going against the governments oppression. You wonder why the government is continually building concentration camps within our own homeland.
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theres islands for sale at around $20million
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? LOL
we are going to be in the general election buddy, after that then you can build your floating island.
Remember Ron Paul will fight as long as we support him and I know that means either as a republican OR 3rd party.
Even without the repub party we will still unlease a battle that the others are not anywhere even close to messing with.
I can see a 3rd party being an amazing platform of both sides coming together for a common goal "taking our country back. We can call it the "central party" as in the left and right with us in the middle and with that is the constitution. Democrats are to the left of it and the repubs to the right BUT ron paul is right in the middle how it should be.
Taking the country back no matter the platform, stop freaking over these tiny battles when we are nowhere even close to the war itself.
And then if you want to take it one step further, lets say we cant secure the oval office. Our nation is going to collapse if it continues how it is and once that does their same old tricks and lies could not work anymore and we would then take the country back.
No matter what we will regain control either now or after the collapse.
we are going to be in the general election buddy, after that then you can build your floating island.
Remember Ron Paul will fight as long as we support him and I know that means either as a republican OR 3rd party.
Even without the repub party we will still unlease a battle that the others are not anywhere even close to messing with.
I can see a 3rd party being an amazing platform of both sides coming together for a common goal "taking our country back. We can call it the "central party" as in the left and right with us in the middle and with that is the constitution. Democrats are to the left of it and the repubs to the right BUT ron paul is right in the middle how it should be.
Taking the country back no matter the platform, stop freaking over these tiny battles when we are nowhere even close to the war itself.
And then if you want to take it one step further, lets say we cant secure the oval office. Our nation is going to collapse if it continues how it is and once that does their same old tricks and lies could not work anymore and we would then take the country back.
No matter what we will regain control either now or after the collapse.
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March on brothers.
No real change has ever occurred in the history of the world without violent revolution. I'm afraid that's what it's going to take now. Candidates for open borders, more wars, 100 year occupations are now winning our elections? In ten years this country will no longer exist as we know it.
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I find this an interesting post for a guy with only 9 posts. You don't wanna fight for this country, fine leave. I'd rather you go. As for me, I'll fight the problems to the bloody end.
Did you $%#@tards really believe we were going to win immediately from the top down? Holy crap you guys are clueless on how a real fight works. 100 years of control !poof! gone. Yeah right. That is why this is a revolution. Start working at the ground floor and get the right people elected to support Ron Paul ideals. Let me add before I am done with my rant. This fight is by no means over. Boohoo we lost Florida. We need to push other states so they hear us loud and clear. Even if we don't win, I want to be heard.
Did you $%#@tards really believe we were going to win immediately from the top down? Holy crap you guys are clueless on how a real fight works. 100 years of control !poof! gone. Yeah right. That is why this is a revolution. Start working at the ground floor and get the right people elected to support Ron Paul ideals. Let me add before I am done with my rant. This fight is by no means over. Boohoo we lost Florida. We need to push other states so they hear us loud and clear. Even if we don't win, I want to be heard.
Concentration camps
The real reason behind both the "war on drugs" and "war on terror" was to build these concentration camps. This is why it is key to have the military on our side in any revolution. It is good to know that the military donated more money to Ron Paul than anyone else, this means our military is a lot more libertarian than people assume. We simply need to motivate the military to help us free this nation from the iron fist of the neocons.
http://libertarianempire.com/Terror.html
The real reason behind both the "war on drugs" and "war on terror" was to build these concentration camps. This is why it is key to have the military on our side in any revolution. It is good to know that the military donated more money to Ron Paul than anyone else, this means our military is a lot more libertarian than people assume. We simply need to motivate the military to help us free this nation from the iron fist of the neocons.
http://libertarianempire.com/Terror.html
A Libertarian Military VS John McCain and his neocon allies
McCain is by far the most anti-libertarian candidate in the race. If he wins, the military might be pushed to help us overthrow the feds.
McCain is by far the most anti-libertarian candidate in the race. If he wins, the military might be pushed to help us overthrow the feds.
The problem isn't that the American people are stupid, it's that they're afraid of another terrorist attack. And ever since Bush invaded Afghanistan and Iraq there have no longer been attacks on American soil. So then there's a post hoc fallacy occurring that if we fight them over there they can't get us here. People don't give a rats ass about how it happened they just want it to be stopped from happening, and from the looks of Bush's policy it has appeared that invasion has been successful. Has it? Well it's still to early to decide. The other Republicans seem more appealing because they want to continue the fight against Radical Islam, while Dr. Paul doesn't, meaning sending troops over. The solution is to simply get out and invoke a non-interventionist policy. But then here brews another potential post hoc fallacy, if we get out of the Middle East and all over the world, will we be truly safer. Can you 101% be sure that we will be safer. Because we were not safer on December 7, 1941, from our non-interventionist foreign policy. I know there'll be conspiracy theories and technicalities about December 7th, so yea. Dr. Paul probably doesn't seem appealing either since he always gives out an aura of isolationism to the average American. When people are scared they will do anything to protect themselves even if it means giving up certain liberties. Heck we do it everyday
Which means that we give up a few rights to be protected. For example: you give up the right to chew gum in order to prevent assholes from sticking them to desks, the ground, and chairs. I've had my share of bad experiences with assholes and gum. I'm sorry to say it though, Dr. Paul doesn't sound like a person, to most people, as someone who'll protect them PHYSICALLY (ie: keeping Terrorists out of America). People are in the mindset that if you have a powerful military around the world you'll be safe. Just look at the British Empire, they had soldiers and ships everywhere and not once did a foreign nation invade English soil. Dr. Paul provides for social freedom, civil freedom, and economic freedom. But people care more for security, you call it the road to fascism, which could indeed to in our future, but it's really Human Nature.
Oh yea, it doesn't hurt to STOP HARASSING FELLOW SUPPORTERS AND SUPPORTERS OF OTHER CANDIDATES!
Which means that we give up a few rights to be protected. For example: you give up the right to chew gum in order to prevent assholes from sticking them to desks, the ground, and chairs. I've had my share of bad experiences with assholes and gum. I'm sorry to say it though, Dr. Paul doesn't sound like a person, to most people, as someone who'll protect them PHYSICALLY (ie: keeping Terrorists out of America). People are in the mindset that if you have a powerful military around the world you'll be safe. Just look at the British Empire, they had soldiers and ships everywhere and not once did a foreign nation invade English soil. Dr. Paul provides for social freedom, civil freedom, and economic freedom. But people care more for security, you call it the road to fascism, which could indeed to in our future, but it's really Human Nature.
Oh yea, it doesn't hurt to STOP HARASSING FELLOW SUPPORTERS AND SUPPORTERS OF OTHER CANDIDATES!
Yea it really doesn't help when you threaten revolution and leaving the nation...
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I thought about leaving the country, but I realized that I was born in this country and I may have European heritage but Europe is much worse than America
right now. So I will live in this country til the end. and if I have to fight and die here for freedom than so be it. I won't run away my fate is tied here.
right now. So I will live in this country til the end. and if I have to fight and die here for freedom than so be it. I won't run away my fate is tied here.
I personally don't care how anyone perceives Ron Paul supporters. When the founding fathers got fed up with tyranny they revolted. And they said we must do the same if it ever happened again. I'm not saying we're there yet, but it's coming. If fighting against people like John McCain and Hillary Clinton make me crazy, then so be it.
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Just certain states...
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I'm not ready to turn my back on the country I'm supposed to love dearly.
It's not the country's fault, there's still plenty of hurting individuals that want the same thing as you - network and double our efforts next time if we fail this go 'round.
We have not yet begun to fight.
I think the founding fathers would look at you with disgust for suggesting we bail. Do you want their efforts to be in vain?
It's not the country's fault, there's still plenty of hurting individuals that want the same thing as you - network and double our efforts next time if we fail this go 'round.
We have not yet begun to fight.
I think the founding fathers would look at you with disgust for suggesting we bail. Do you want their efforts to be in vain?
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