This may be the rule that gives us majority in Louisiana

[torchbearer]

I want everyone's interpretation of the following rules in regards to the state LAGOP changing the qualifying dates for state delegates at the last minute:

http://www.gop.com/About/Rules11-20.htm


15.
e) Certification and filing by state committees.

(1) On or before the first Tuesday in September of the year before the year in which the national convention is to be held, each Republican state committee shall adopt rules, procedures, policies, and instructive materials (prepared pursuant to Rule No. 14(a)) governing the selection of delegates and alternate delegates to the national convention to convene during the following year and shall certify and file with the secretary of the Republican National Committee true copies of the same and of all statutes governing the selection of such delegates and alternate delegates.







<if the rules had to be set by that time, one would assume that there are no provisions for changing those rules without special permission from the RNC.
The last minute rule change is illegal under RNC rules and under their Enforcement of rules would decree that louisiana could loose all its national delegates if they don't comply>


Did I read this wrong?

 

[yongrel]

wow

 

[hillertexas]

"Did I read this wrong?"

No...I think that is exactly what it says.

 

[TexMac]

Looks like a good angle to argue to me.

 

[constituent]

what's the text of 14(a)?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

I want everyone's interpretation of the following rules in regards to the state LAGOP changing the qualifying dates for state delegates at the last minute:

http://www.gop.com/About/Rules11-20.htm


15.
e) Certification and filing by state committees.

(1) On or before the first Tuesday in September of the year before the year in which the national convention is to be held, each Republican state committee shall adopt rules, procedures, policies, and instructive materials (prepared pursuant to Rule No. 14(a)) governing the selection of delegates and alternate delegates to the national convention to convene during the following year and shall certify and file with the secretary of the Republican National Committee true copies of the same and of all statutes governing the selection of such delegates and alternate delegates.







<if the rules had to be set by that time, one would assume that there are no provisions for changing those rules without special permission from the RNC.
The last minute rule change is illegal under RNC rules and under their Enforcement of rules would decree that louisiana could loose all its national delegates if they don't comply>


Did I read this wrong?

Torchie,

Your analysis seems correct to me. Basically their rules had to be set by the first Tuesday in September 2007.

Seems like more dirty tricks. Damn these bastards to hell.

 

[pacelli]

I want everyone's interpretation of the following rules in regards to the state LAGOP changing the qualifying dates for state delegates at the last minute:

http://www.gop.com/About/Rules11-20.htm


15.
e) Certification and filing by state committees.

(1) On or before the first Tuesday in September of the year before the year in which the national convention is to be held, each Republican state committee shall adopt rules, procedures, policies, and instructive materials (prepared pursuant to Rule No. 14(a)) governing the selection of delegates and alternate delegates to the national convention to convene during the following year and shall certify and file with the secretary of the Republican National Committee true copies of the same and of all statutes governing the selection of such delegates and alternate delegates.







<if the rules had to be set by that time, one would assume that there are no provisions for changing those rules without special permission from the RNC.
The last minute rule change is illegal under RNC rules and under their Enforcement of rules would decree that louisiana could loose all its national delegates if they don't comply>


Did I read this wrong?

No, I think you read that correctly. Wasn't the decision made in January to count those registered prior to Nov 1?

 

[MsDoodahs]

Reads to me as if the LAGOP went totally outside of the rules.

 

[constitutional]

I want everyone's interpretation of the following rules in regards to the state LAGOP changing the qualifying dates for state delegates at the last minute:

http://www.gop.com/About/Rules11-20.htm


15.
e) Certification and filing by state committees.

(1) On or before the first Tuesday in September of the year before the year in which the national convention is to be held, each Republican state committee shall adopt rules, procedures, policies, and instructive materials (prepared pursuant to Rule No. 14(a)) governing the selection of delegates and alternate delegates to the national convention to convene during the following year and shall certify and file with the secretary of the Republican National Committee true copies of the same and of all statutes governing the selection of such delegates and alternate delegates.







<if the rules had to be set by that time, one would assume that there are no provisions for changing those rules without special permission from the RNC.
The last minute rule change is illegal under RNC rules and under their Enforcement of rules would decree that louisiana could loose all its national delegates if they don't comply>


Did I read this wrong?

I think they would gladly loose the national delegates if RP wins as the error is correct.

 

[torchbearer]

what's the text of 14(a)?

Another rule they didn't follow, that one would disqualify the entire process.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Im not exactly sure of the entire situation in Louisiana.. All Ive heard is something along the lines that they didnt count certain provisional ballots or OUR people werent properly registered or something??

What exactly is the situation down there?

 

[RJB]

I bet they'd rather lose their delegates.

 

[virginiakid]

GO get'em.

 

[torchbearer]

No, I think you read that correctly. Wasn't the decision made in January to count those registered prior to Nov 1?

Yes, that was another last minute rule change....

But the delegate one is huge,
The state GOP would either have to disqualify the late delegates, which are all non-ron paul delegates and would give us majority.. or they'd loose their delegates to the national convention.

Question is... how and who do you file this indictment?

 

[noztnac]

They know they lost but if they can hold until Super Tuesday they will have accomplished their goal.

 

[mavtek]

Just so everyone knows, if one doesn't win it's lose if a bolt isn't tightened it's loose.

Thank you.

 

[torchbearer]

If I'm misspelling, I'm blaming it on this raging migraine I'm squinting through to get this info out...
But i do need legal advice on where to take this indictment, I will do the leg work if someone can point me in the appropriate direct.

 

[j0ew00ds]

I have a question here. If they only need to submit rules to National how the national delegates are selected, and those rules say something like, "the state convention votes blah blah blah" and doesn't mentioned how the state delegates are chosen, have they actually not broken these rules?
To say it another way, maybe they've broken no national rules since those only need to say how the national delegates are chosen within the state convention.

 

[muh_roads]

So this was planned from the beginning. When it was discovered that Paul may have the most delegates, a few covert members at the National GOP asked the LA-GOP in secret to F with the rules so LA's delegates are excluded.

Makes perfect sense to me. Damn the elite. Damn the establishment. They are not stupid, they are ruthless.

 

[WilliamC]

I think they would gladly loose the national delegates if RP wins as the error is correct.

Yes but would the people of Louisiana be happy about this?

I doubt it.

My understanding is that the Ron Paul Campaign is thinking of a lawsuit over this, maybe this rule is their main reason.

We need some wins somewhere.