The "Not Stock Cars" of NASCAR

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The Not-Stock Car

By eric January 10, 2017

How come no one has ever brought a fraud case against NASCAR?

The acronym stands for National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing.

Italics added.

What is “stock” – i.e., production car-like – about any of these full-on, purpose-built race cars?

The most baldfacedely hilarious example of automotive cognitive dissonance may be the full-on race car revealed by Toyota at the Detroit Auto Show this week. It is called a “Camry” but that is like calling a nicely marbled ribeye a Tiliapa filet, cooked in virgin olive oil – as far as that full-on, purpose-built race car sharing any meaningful pieces (and no mechanical ones) with the Camry you can buy at your local Toyota store.

There may be some vague semblance of similarity as far as the shape and maybe the painted on (yes) headlights and perhaps the race car has a roof section or some other functionally irrelevant panel that is shared with with the stock car. But no stock Camry comes with a V8 engine, much less a carburetor. Or ever did.

The race car has both.

And the V8 in the race car is not mounted sideways and does not drive the front wheels, as in the V6 (and FWD) stock car.

There is also a mechanical advance distributor. With a single coil. Good luck finding either under the hood of any Toyota made over the past 20 years. Maybe thirty. Could be more.

The race Camry isn’t even like Robocop was in relation to his human cop origins. Robocop still had the human cop’s brain and some other biological bits and pieces, too. You will not find the Camry’s computer brain – or any computer, for that matter – controlling the race car’s V8.

The race car has more in common, layout-wise and functionally, with a ’69 Chevy Chevelle than it does with any Camry ever manufactured.

Hell, the race car isn’t even a sedan – which in case you hadn’t noticed, the actual Camry is.

And the same, incidentally, goes for Ford and its fake-mongering “Fusion” race car. Also a coupe – there is no stock analog – also powered by a carbureted V8 that drives the rear wheels… whereas the stock car is powered by a direct-injected, turbocharged four, mounted sideways, that drives the rear (or all four) wheels.

There is also this business of the transmission. No Camry or Fusion comes with a third pedal. They are automatic-only. The race cars all have manual transmissions. Four speed manual transmissions.

I will here give GM credit for having the only race car on the field that is at least somewhat similar to the “stock” car that carries the same name: The Chevy SS.

It – the stock car – is rear wheel drive and does come with a V8 engine; a pushrod V8 engine (which is something no “stock” Ford or Toyota has come with in decades). But it, too, is a sedan while the race car isn’t.

Everything on the field has two doors, mainly because the stock cars NASCAR used to field did. It is traditional. The old school stock cars were based on mid-sized, rear-drive coupes like the Pontiac LeMans and Chevy Laguna, the Dodge Charger and Ford Torino.

Actual stock cars were transformed into race cars, too – as opposed to being purpose built from the floorpans up as dedicated race cars, on a tube-frame chassis that has as much in common with a production car unibody as Hillary Clinton does with Ron Paul.

The problem today is that mid-sized coupes (with bolt-on frames and V8 engines and rear wheel drive) are an extinct species. Hence the transition – which few fans seem to mind – to dedicated race cars that vaguely look like a production car when viewed from 20 yards away and from head-on only.

Back in the days of stock car racing, you rooted for the Chevy to win because you owned one and the car on the track actually had something meaningful in common with yours. Something like a ’69 Chevelle SS was very much like a NASCAR stocker, in fact. It not only looked similar, it was. Driving one gave you a feel for what it would be like to drive the race car.

Or maybe you bought a Chevy because you saw one win. There was a saying, win on Sunday, sell on Monday.

Apparently, this still holds. NASCAR is now a major national sport and a big money operation, whereas back in the days of stock car racing, it was mostly a regional (Southern) thing.

But it was less fake – and more accessible. You didn’t necessarily need a Hendrick Motorsports team behind you to even think about fielding a car. Remember, they were still stock cars back then and if you could find a Laguna – a production Laguna – and hop the thing up and make it through tech you could race.

Good old boys did.

Today, pretty boys do.

This is not to disparage their talents. They are fine drivers. But the cars are homogenized and – to this old boy – have all the emotional appeal of a box of Kleenex.
 
My dad worked at the local Dodge dealer from the early '70s until his death in 2013. First mechanic, then Service Manager (back when a SM had to actually know how to fix cars), then salesman. He was a YUGE Richard Petty fan. And so I was too.

Bought a '74 Charger when I got my first full time job. Still in high school, second shift at a gas station. $2195.00 with 48,000 miles on her.

I remember when they mandated "restrictor plates" on the engine intakes. Supposedly for safety. Otherwise someone might go "too fast". WTF, isn't that the whole point of racing? Sounds like gov mandated "equality".

Also around that time, all the cars started to look the same. No individual "character". A hemi Charger vs whatever Ford and Chevy ran at the time (can't remember) was nirvana back then.
 
My dad worked at the local Dodge dealer from the early '70s until his death in 2013. First mechanic, then Service Manager (back when a SM had to actually know how to fix cars), then salesman. He was a YUGE Richard Petty fan. And so I was too.

Bought a '74 Charger when I got my first full time job. Still in high school, second shift at a gas station. $2195.00 with 48,000 miles on her.

I remember when they mandated "restrictor plates" on the engine intakes. Supposedly for safety. Otherwise someone might go "too fast". WTF, isn't that the whole point of racing? Sounds like gov mandated "equality".

Also around that time, all the cars started to look the same. No individual "character". A hemi Charger vs whatever Ford and Chevy ran at the time (can't remember) was nirvana back then.

That's when I stopped following the sport.
 
For sure, but I still go. NASCAR is the only highest level league that does not give you an anal probe at the gate. I no longer go to an MLB, NBA, or NHL venue.
 
I used to watch the races. Not anymore, though. Just isn't the same. I think the last one I went to was in Dover. Jeff Gordon was leading and ran out of gas on the last lap. Then when I was leaving, I walked under the bleachers in order to get out to the parking lot and it was raining beer. Heh. I got soaked with it.

That's the best place to buy a pair of shades, though. They have those boothes set up outside of races where vendors sell their stuff. They actually fit you for them and find the right shape of shades that look best on your face.

But yeah. It ain't like the days when the good ol boys were running. Now everybody seems like their trying to play a character or something.

Country music's like that, too. Can't listen to "country" anymore either.
 
Why are people watching this $#@!?:confused:

Eh. Who wants to talk about politics all of the time. Sometimes you need a break. I'm not a big fan of watching sports on tv every waking day but if somebody wants to watch a race or a game once in a while, what's it hurting?

What's fun is when you actually go to a race, though. There's a lot of fun to be had besides watching the race itself. Especially when you get into the infield and the camper parks. Which can't be said of basketball, baseball, football and whatnot.

But even the races, the yanks ae taking that over, too. So you get all of the corporate execs hogging up the good spots in the infield where all the fun used to be.

I've been to tailgates at football games and whatnot. They sucked. I'd much rather hang out with some good ol boys at the race picking and grinning out by the camper as opposed to a bunch of loud ass drones with their football jerseys simulating warfare in the parking lot. Gold versus blue or red versus gry kind of mentality.

 
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Eh. Who wants to talk about politics all of the time. Sometimes you need a break.

*****

What's fun is when you actually go to a race, though. ...

*****

... bunch of loud ass drones with their football jerseys simulating warfare in the parking lot. Gold versus blue or red versus gry kind of mentality.


Yeah, it's just recreation for me, which is an essential part of life.

And I agree that there is nothing like being there.

By the way, did you see that Detroit Lions fans really grab the Lions' player who did the Lambeau Leap at Ford Field? Guy looked like a nut. Race fans get a lot of flack, but you won't see as many wackos like you will see at a football game. Martinsville Speedway on a Sunday afternoon is about as laid back as it gets.
 
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Why are people watching this shit?:confused:


Well, I don't know exactly. Our family grew up on cars. Kind of Americana, I guess.

There's just something about the noise, going as fast as you can go, and even the colorful cars.

One thing I have observed though. My wife is from the Philippines. Their society is more fatalistic and elemental. They see the physical and even violence as more a part of life. More accepting than Americans, I suppose. So, my wife's favorite sports are boxing and NASCAR. She also likes football. She still goes for basketball and baseball, but the others are favorites. I mention this because sports like boxing sort of got pushed aside in America. Guess people thought it was uncivilized. Boxing is crazy and I would never recommend it, but I still like it. People from other cultures have a different view. Just my observation.
 
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