The Big Problem: how to make kids get out to vote?

[Emerick]

I think this is the one single problem that must be handled. It's just incredible how the young people are disapponting us. We must have some way to make them drop their video games for a second, and go vote.

It's very easy to talk about liberty, to say they care about what is going on. But they must show up when they are needed.

I opened this thread so we can discuss some workable strategies to get the kids out to vote. Just that.

What do you suggest?

 

[Matthew Zak]

I'm confused.

I thought roughly 40% of all the youth that vote, voted for Ron Paul in Nevada. That's a huge landslide for Ron Paul getting youth votes. He only got 11% of the people his age.

It would seem to me that old people need to get voting.

 

[PauliticsPolitics]

In primary states with absentee voting, people have to go around and help people file and vote absentee, in bulk. Then you can guarantee the kid's (or anyone's) vote.

 

[Carson]

Little fake ID's

 

[Ohio4Paul]

Wait until they get a firsthand taste of the tyranny they allowed.

 

[Liberty74]

For crying out loud, so many still in denial and live in la la land. You cannot get the youth to turn out the way some of you are wanting i.e. 200-400% more.

The problem, FACE IT, is Ron is getting killed by the people who do vote and the Republican voter. We go after those, we win. We go after the youth, liberals and progressives, we lose like we we did in 2008 and like we are losing in 2012. It is what it is. No matter how much hope and pray you put into the youth vote, it isn't going to happen.

GOT IT YET?

 

[anewvoice]

For crying out loud, so many still in denial and live in la la land. You cannot get the youth to turn out the way some of you are wanting i.e. 200-400% more.

The problem, FACE IT, is Ron is getting killed by the people who do vote and the Republican voter. We go after those, we win. We go after the youth, liberals and progressives, we lose like we we did in 2008 and like we are losing in 2012. It is what it is. No matter how much hope and pray you put into the youth vote, it isn't going to happen.

GOT IT YET?

Wait, what are you getting at?

 

[NCGOPer_for_Paul]

The fact is, if you are more concerned about sleeping in, because "going out" the night before is too important, you don't deserve freedom. Just get up and go vote! It's really not that difficult.

 

[Liberty74]

I'm confused.

I thought roughly 40% of all the youth that vote, voted for Ron Paul in Nevada. That's a huge landslide for Ron Paul getting youth votes. He only got 11% of the people his age.

It would seem to me that old people need to get voting.

39% also voted for Romney from what I saw (or was that the Indy breakdown?). Hence, not a landslide! Also youth vote was only 8% of the share. Meaning, if Ron won all 100% of the youth vote, it's not enough to come even close to first. Ron's 40% is a very small piece of the total pie or 3.2 points of Ron's total. Basic math.

 

[MichaelD]

I am no expert in get out the vote but here are my idea,

If you identify or convert someone to Ron Paul, stay I touch with them, remind them of the vote and ask them to report back to you after they voting.

I think we assume that once you are turned onto Ron Paul you instantly become hard core, however in the margins we do have some soft support.

 

[undergroundrr]

As impressive as the crowds look at Colorado State and Bethel University, it looks like they are garnering him virtually no votes.

If the campaign can figure out a way to hand out free Domino's Pizza and Pabst Blue ribbon to young Paul voters at every caucus location, it might help. But Ron Paul's time and energy would be better spent visiting twenty people in a Kiwanis Club instead of 2000 at Colorado State.

 

[anewvoice]

Get the makers of Angry Birds to give away a free game for each vote

And +rep for the PBR reference, needed a laugh!

 

[Liberty74]

Wait, what are you getting at?

You tell SS people over and over and over that Romney, Newt and Santorum will bankrupt SS/Medicare and they won't get their checks and those about to go on SS will get nothing either. The other option is the raise everyone's taxes 30% from what I understand to keep those programs solvent unless we end our policing of the world and foreign aid. Watch the masses crap in their depends and move like herds to Ron Paul. Give them a choice between those programs or foreign aid, wars, policing the world - all of a sudden they will endorse Ron's foreign policy by default. We are broke people!!!

 

[nobody's_hero]

I think the worst problem we face are the vast majority of people who don't think about who they're going to vote for until they show up at the ballot booth.

Someone who doesn't vote, doesn't help. But it's really the reckless, last-minute voters who have absolutely ruined this country.

I look at some people and think:

How the hell do you have four f***ing years between presidential elections, with a year or even two years of campaigning, and yet you are still undecided on primary night? Try putting some effort into researching candidates and maybe you won't have that issue.

 

[tbone717]

39% also voted for Romney from what I saw (or was that the Indy breakdown?). Hence, not a landslide! Also youth vote was only 8% of the share. Meaning, if Ron won all 100% of the youth vote, it's not enough to come even close to first. Ron's 40% is a very small piece of the total pie or 3.2 points of Ron's total. Basic math.

+rep for the post. Though you may not want to insert logic and math into people's delusional views, you'll confuse them.

 

[Butchie]

You tell SS people over and over and over that Romney, Newt and Santorum will bankrupt SS/Medicare and they won't get their checks and those about to go on SS will get nothing either. The other option is the raise everyone's taxes 30% from what I understand to keep those programs solvent unless we end our policing of the world and foreign aid. Watch the masses crap in their depends and move like herds to Ron Paul. Give them a choice between those programs or foreign aid, wars, policing the world - all of a sudden they will endorse Ron's foreign policy by default. We are broke people!!!

Yep, this goes with Ron constantly hyping up his "young people" narrative in interviews as well, seniors over and over are the one's who vote in large numbers, not college kids, why does he keep preaching to the choir, get off the campuses and start going to bingo night at the local VFW.

 

[undergroundrr]

The other side of the young people vote is they're probably hesitant to go to a caucus or primary vote because they haven't before. And the chance of their having had the initiative to register is pretty miniscule. I get the feeling it might take 2 or 3 elections before they get around to even registering.

Given that system, the young vote will always have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do something that's good for them. For older voters, the car is already warmed up, but they haven't picked a destination.

 

[Narmical]

best way to get out the youth vote? age them 20 years...

 

[KingNothing]

I think this is the one single problem that must be handled. It's just incredible how the young people are disapponting us. We must have some way to make them drop their video games for a second, and go vote.

It's very easy to talk about liberty, to say they care about what is going on. But they must show up when they are needed.

I opened this thread so we can discuss some workable strategies to get the kids out to vote. Just that.

What do you suggest?

In Iowa and New Hampshire the youth vote nearly equaled it's share of the total population.
It would be wonderful if we could get young voters to constitute the largest block of voters, but that is a ridiculously difficult task. We're asking young, libertarian leaning folks to either register for the first time or change party affiliation en masse. It's not easy to make that happen.

I imagine that the static inertia involved in voting is very high -- it's probably hard to get people involved in the process. But once they are involved and have a round of voting under their belts, turning them out is -I would think- much easier.

So here's to hoping, at the very least, that we've added about ~15-25% of liberty minded people to the voter rolls in nearly every state. That is definitely going to have positive downstream consequences.


Should we try to increase that number? Yes. Is it going to be easy? Absolutely not.

 

[Hyperion]

I think the worst problem we face are the vast majority of people who don't think about who they're going to vote for until they show up at the ballot booth.

Someone who doesn't vote, doesn't help. But it's really the reckless, last-minute voters who have absolutely ruined this country.

I look at some people and think:

How the hell do you have four f***ing years between presidential elections, with a year or even two years of campaigning, and yet you are still undecided on primary night? Try putting some effort into researching candidates and maybe you won't have that issue.

God this is so true. Last minute voters really screw things up.

How do these people feel good about voting when many of them are clearly uneducated about the issues? It's just another example of how the most powerful office in the world is treated as seriously as voting for American Idol.