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An economic school has led to gridlock in Washington

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(Scott Olson/GETTY IMAGES) - Then-U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) speaks at a Nov. 9, 2011, GOP presidential candidate debate.

By E.J. Dionne Jr., Published: February 9 E-mail the writer
One of my favorite moments during the 2012 Republican presidential contest came when Ron Paul, fresh from his strong showing in Iowa, triumphantly told his supporters: “We’re all Austrians now!”

I imagined many Americans scratching their heads and wondering: Why do we want to be Austrians? They live in a nice country with stunning mountains and all that, but aren’t we perfectly happy to be Americans?

Of course those in the know, particularly Paul’s enthusiasts, understood the libertarian presidential candidate’s reference: that Americans were rejecting the economic ideas of John Maynard Keynes that encouraged government intervention and provided intellectual ballast for the New Deal. Instead, they were coming around to the principles of the anti-government economics of Austrians Friedrich A. Hayek and Ludwig von Mises.

Hayek and Mises perceived little difference between democratic governments that used their power to plan against recessions and dictatorships that did the same thing. In this view, the policies of Franklin Roosevelt led down what Hayek called the “Road to Serfdom” and were thus objectively comparable to those of Hitler or Stalin.

At the time, Paul offered some context for his Austrian journey. He was quoting a supporter who had noted a line attributed to President Richard Nixon that “we’re all Keynesians now.” Paul observed that back then, even Republicans “accepted liberal economics.” Those days are gone.

Paul’s words are worth remembering not only because they are entertaining but also because he has a point. To a remarkable degree, our politics are haunted by the principles of Austrian economics and their sweeping hostility to any actions by government to keep downturns from becoming catastrophes or to promote greater economic fairness.

This is, indeed, an enormous change. When Nixon declared his allegiance to Keynesianism, he was reflecting an insight embraced across partisan lines. Government’s exertions, both during the New Deal and more completely during World War II, helped rescue the U.S. economy from depression.

Postwar Keynesian approaches, including the Marshall Plan, let loose an economic juggernaut across the Western world. Secular and Christian parties of the moderate right and social democratic parties of the moderate left created free societies and regulated market economies that delivered the goods — literally as well as figuratively — to tens of millions. (The actual country of Austria, by the way, largely ignored the “Austrian” economists and followed a similar path.)

Those who follow Hayek and Mises would have us forget this history or rewrite it beyond comprehension. They would also have us overlook that Hayek’s “own historical justification for apolitical market economics was entirely wrong,” as the late Tony Judt put it in “Thinking the Twentieth Century,” his extraordinary dialogue with his fellow historian Timothy Snyder, published in 2012, after Judt’s death.

rant continues at.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...020-11e3-b46a-5a3d0d2130da_story.html?hpid=z3
 
Government’s exertions, both during the New Deal and more completely during World War II, helped rescue the U.S. economy from depression.

SMH. Still pushing that same tired old BS as if it's fact.

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/fdr-s-policies-prolonged-depression-5409.aspx

http://mises.org/daily/1623

Macroeconomic model builders have finally realized what Henry Hazlitt and John T. Flynn (among others) knew in the 1930s: FDR's New Deal made the Great Depression longer and deeper. It is a myth that Franklin D. Roosevelt "got us out of the Depression" and "saved capitalism from itself," as generations of Americans have been taught by the state's educational establishment.

America's Great Depression
http://mises.org/rothbard/agd/contents.asp
 
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We have made headway. Let's not over-exaggerate the progress we've made (as this article does), but we have made progress. We have made this progress not in Washington, but in the intellects and convictions of increasing numbers of regular people.
 
We have made headway. Let's not over-exaggerate the progress we've made (as this article does), but we have made progress. We have made this progress not in Washington, but in the intellects and convictions of increasing numbers of regular people.

The biggest problem I have with this emerging dialectic is that they are attributing GOP stubbornness, foolishness, and bigotry to libertarianism and Austrian economics.

No matter how big an ally Cruz might be on some issues, he's no Austrian scholar.

No matter what Bachmann claimed to read with a pina colada in her other hand, she's not versed in the theory of liberty.

No matter what crazy debt deal is signed, no Austrian economist had any influence in it.

So yes, none of our progress has been in Washignton - but we should expect all the blame for Washington's failures to placed at our feet.
 
WaPo's E.J. Dionne blames "gridlock" on popularity of Ron Paul & Austrian economics

Would only it were so! This is a bunch of asinine hooey, of course.

But just the fact that "they" are worried enough to make such idiotic claims is greatly heartening.
After all, you don't take flak unless you're over the target ... Ron Paul & Austrian economics FTW!!

(I've highlighted the especially hilarious parts in red ...)

An economic school has led to gridlock in Washington
http://www.donotlink.com/www.washin...de8df0-9020-11e3-b46a-5a3d0d2130da_story.html
E. J. Dionne Jr. (09 February 2014)

One of my favorite moments during the 2012 Republican presidential contest came when Ron Paul, fresh from his strong showing in Iowa, triumphantly told his supporters: “We’re all Austrians now!

I imagined many Americans scratching their heads and wondering: Why do we want to be Austrians? They live in a nice country with stunning mountains and all that, but aren’t we perfectly happy to be Americans?

Of course those in the know, particularly Paul’s enthusiasts, understood the libertarian presidential candidate’s reference: that Americans were rejecting the economic ideas of John Maynard Keynes that encouraged government intervention and provided intellectual ballast for the New Deal. Instead, they were coming around to the principles of the anti-government economics of Austrians Friedrich A. Hayek and Ludwig von Mises.

[...]

Paul’s words are worth remembering not only because they are entertaining but also because he has a point. To a remarkable degree, our politics are haunted by the principles of Austrian economics and their sweeping hostility to any actions by government to keep downturns from becoming catastrophes or to promote greater economic fairness.

[...]

[T]oday’s conservatives are in thrall to Austrian thinking, and this explains a lot of what is going on in Washington. Broadly popular measures such as raising the minimum wage and extending unemployment insurance — normal, bipartisan legislation during the Keynesian heyday — are blocked on the assumption [!!!] that people are better off if the government simply keeps its mitts off the market.

[Did you get that? The whole of Austrian economics is to be reduced to and dismissed as a mere "assumption!"
Keynesianism, however, is apparently to be considered valid because it is "popular" and "normal" ... :rolleyes: - OB]


It is now difficult for Congress to pass even the kind of spending that all sides once saw as necessary public investment in transportation, research and education. It’s that “road to serfdom” again: Anything government does beyond enforcing contracts and stopping violence is denounced as the first step of a fox trot toward dictatorship.

So let’s give Ron Paul credit for unmasking the true source of gridlock in Washington: Too many conservatives are operating on the basis of theories that history and practice have discredited. And liberals have been more reluctant than they should be to call the ideological right on this, partly because they never fully got over the shell shock of the Reagan years and also because they have a strange aversion to arguing about theory. When it comes to government policy, the Austrian economists paved the road to paralysis.

The Mises View: "WaPo Attacks Austrian Economics" | Mark Thornton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n_UDqFyCp8

 
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You can expect more of this. It's a slick trick to damage Rand Paul, by taking swipes at the ideas of Ron Paul. The statist know Ron Paul has wide appeal - they cannot allow that to transfer to Rand.
 
Here's a link to an article cataloging the rebuttals to Dionne:

E. J. Dionne and His Austrian Detractors
http://thelibertarianliquidationist.com/2014/02/12/e-j-dionne-and-his-austrian-detractors/

The above includes (but is not limited to) the following:
- Ryan McMaken @ The Circle Bastiat: House "Progressive" at WaPo Attacks Austrian Econ
- C. Jay Engel @ The Reformed Libertarian: The American Economy in Peril: Blame the Austrians!
- Mark Horne @ Political Outcast: Another Liberal Tries To Teach Readers That Austrian Economics Is Evil
- Steven Hayward @ Powerline Blog: Dionne Again, Naturally
 
He stated that Austrian economics has been discredited, but he can't even be bothered to provide an example.
 
How the FUCK does this guy define "catastrophe"?
THIS:

or THIS:

KEYNESIAN FAIL

No, no, no! Don't you see?

No matter how bad things might get, they would be even worse if Austrians had their way (or if Keynesians did not)!
 
No, no, no! Don't you see?

No matter how bad things might get, they would be even worse if Austrians had their way (or if Keynesians did not)!

I get it.
This clown's idea of "greater economic fairness" is EVERYONE gets boned
(excepting the bankers, of course. Bankers gotta eat, after all).
 
“This newspaper would’ve sold 10 years ago for $2*billion,” said Craig Huber of Huber Research Partners.

The purchase of The Washington Post by Jeffrey P. Bezos ends 42 years in which The Post has been part of a publicly traded company, creates a small windfall for the company’s shareholders and will leave the stewardship of the newspaper in the hands of a privately held firm.

When Bezos, the founder and chief executive of Amazon.com, closes on the $250*million purchase of the paper*
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/details-of-bezos-deal-to-buy-washington-post/2013/08/05/968a2bc4-fe1b-11e2-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html
Content in bold is a better example of winning.
 
Volokh's Zywick makes mincemeat of Dionne.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/02/14/dionne-v-hayek/

Last week, E.J. Dionne Jr. penned a column in the Washington Post that blamed adherence to the tenets of the Austrian school of economics for gridlock in Washington. Well, sort of. He seemed to say that Austrian economics simultaneously was an obscure set of ideas of which no one has heard (except Ron Paul) and is yet powerful enough to provide the rallying cry for the Republican Party in Washington. More important, he says that Austrian economics is troublesome as a practical matter by blocking activist-government Keynesian-style interventions and deficit spending that would spur the economy and bring about greater wealth redistribution, but Austrian economics is wrong as a theoretical and historical matter. (As an aside, listening to the recording of Ron Paul’s speech, it doesn’t sound like he says “We’re all Austrians now.” He says, “I’m waiting for the day when we can say ‘We’re all Austrians now.’”).

Dionne’s column is problematic in two ways. First, he completely misrepresents the central argument of Friedrich Hayek’s Road to Serfdom, which seems to be his central target. Second, he fails to accurately reflect the debate over the historical record of Keynesianism during the Great Depression and in particular the “stagflation” episode of the 1970s, which shattered the Nixon-era consensus on the wisdom of Keynesian economics...
 
Volokh's Zywick makes mincemeat of Dionne. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/02/14/dionne-v-hayek/

[Ron Paul didn't say] “We’re all Austrians now.” He says, “I’m waiting for the day when we can say ‘We’re all Austrians now.’”)

LMAO. "Boom! goes the dynamite." That's a very good catch by Zywick. (I am jealous - I wish I had noticed it.)

It pretty much destroys the entire rhetorical foundation of Dionne's thesis ...
 
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