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This was posted in another dicussion but women's rights and fears about restrictive policies of new Afghan regime is a topic in itself:
Quote:
Of every enemy to people's liberty, war might be the worst of them, because it helps build all the other enemies. - James Madison.
..might be falling for pro forever-wars gwpundit neocons fallacious argument. Pauls Revere has posted informative summary of costs of this war somewhere on this forum couple of days ago. Super powers interventions there of last 40 years for their self-serving agendas have created more homeless, kids without mothers/fathers, women without kids/husbands than any other war in last half century... Iraqi Freedom War might come close though.
Time will tell if this gen of Talibans is really more respectful of rights of the weaker gender and the weak in society or just lip service, their top backer reportedly had sought commitments to be more inclusive from them before supporting them ( in contrast, can't find any old headline suggesting that Carter/Reagan had sought similar commitments about rights of women when they started funding/arming previous crop of Islamic militants/foreign fighters there ).
China hopes Taliban will establish ''open, inclusive'' Islamic govt as committed
16 hours ago
China preparing to recognize Taliban if Kabul falls, says report
4 days ago
"Modernization" Claims
Billions spent ultimately benefited Taliban...
Militants swap AK-47s for made-in-America rifles...
Announce 'amnesty,' urge women to join govt...katc.com/news/national/taliban-announces-amnesty-urges-women-to-join-government
Taliban announces 'amnesty' and urge women to join government
By: The Associated Press & Scripps National
Aug 17, 2021
A Taliban official has announced a general "amnesty" for all in Afghanistan and urged women to join its government.
After seizing control of the country over the weekend, the Taliban had attempted to portray itself as a more moderate ruling body than it was in the 1990s when they imposed a brutal regime. Many Afghans remain skeptical about the Taliban's intentions.
Older generations remember the Taliban's ultra-conservative Islamic views, which included severe restrictions on women as well as stonings, amputations and public executions before they were ousted by the U.S-led invasion that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
Enamullah Samangani, a member of the Taliban's cultural commission, made the comments Tuesday on Afghan state television, which the militants now control.
Samangani said, "the Islamic Emirate (the militant's name for Afghanistan) don't want women to be victims," adding that the structure of the government remains unclear, but he added that "based on experience, there should be a fully Islamic leadership and all sides should join."
Female Anchors Continue to Present on Afghanistan News Channel
Beheshta Arghand, a female television anchor for Tolo News, interviewed a Taliban official on camera Tuesday in the channel’s studio, asking about the situation in Kabul and the Taliban’s house searches in the capital. Tolo News/Screengrab
Reports like above should provide some political cover for Prez Biden also after bad perceptions mgmt or perhaps some bad mgmt of the transition too. But ending 20 years long war (to which many groups may have been addicted to fleece US taxpayers) on advertized schedule was bound to have some issues.
China won't be exerting influence for women's rights alone, main drivers for China's support ofnew regime would be their own strategic interests (Belt n Road/ETIM etc) not surprisingly:
Chinese envoy urges Taliban to live up to its counter-terrorism commitments
CTGN
1 hour ago
And China's definitions of such commitments might be different from those of other nations.
We'll have to wait and see. But restarting US military occupation and training of corrupt "Afghan Forces" in forseeable decades looks highly improbable.
As for above mayor's claimed statement, quick news search did not show reports of reprisals in Kabul. But it's very early and time will tell how true are claims of 'amnesty'. Did come across a claim of targetting in google news:
Taliban were ‘catching and killing us’: Afghan intel officer who fled to Delhi on last flight from Kabul
The National Directorate of Security (NDS) officer said that the Taliban had sent them notices, asking to ‘revolt the government or die’.
AUG 17, 2021
hindustantimes.com/world-news/afghan-intel-officer-fled-to-delhi-on-last-flight-from-kabul-to-escape-taliban-101629139600183.html
This could be linked to 'counter-terrorism commitments' China had saught if claims are factual , and might not indicate widespread reprisals or targetting of women:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7053282
China's State Newspaper
Crusade against July 14 terrorists to punish whoever attacks Chinese
globaltimes.cn
Whole world will be watching, new regime that will emerge got to be mindful of that too.
Related
Back to Afghanistan!
Its for the women!
(but not the Children)
Quote:
Of every enemy to people's liberty, war might be the worst of them, because it helps build all the other enemies. - James Madison.
..might be falling for pro forever-wars gwpundit neocons fallacious argument. Pauls Revere has posted informative summary of costs of this war somewhere on this forum couple of days ago. Super powers interventions there of last 40 years for their self-serving agendas have created more homeless, kids without mothers/fathers, women without kids/husbands than any other war in last half century... Iraqi Freedom War might come close though.
Time will tell if this gen of Talibans is really more respectful of rights of the weaker gender and the weak in society or just lip service, their top backer reportedly had sought commitments to be more inclusive from them before supporting them ( in contrast, can't find any old headline suggesting that Carter/Reagan had sought similar commitments about rights of women when they started funding/arming previous crop of Islamic militants/foreign fighters there ).
China hopes Taliban will establish ''open, inclusive'' Islamic govt as committed
16 hours ago
China preparing to recognize Taliban if Kabul falls, says report
4 days ago
"Modernization" Claims
Billions spent ultimately benefited Taliban...
Militants swap AK-47s for made-in-America rifles...
Announce 'amnesty,' urge women to join govt...katc.com/news/national/taliban-announces-amnesty-urges-women-to-join-government
Taliban announces 'amnesty' and urge women to join government
By: The Associated Press & Scripps National
Aug 17, 2021
A Taliban official has announced a general "amnesty" for all in Afghanistan and urged women to join its government.
After seizing control of the country over the weekend, the Taliban had attempted to portray itself as a more moderate ruling body than it was in the 1990s when they imposed a brutal regime. Many Afghans remain skeptical about the Taliban's intentions.
Older generations remember the Taliban's ultra-conservative Islamic views, which included severe restrictions on women as well as stonings, amputations and public executions before they were ousted by the U.S-led invasion that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
Enamullah Samangani, a member of the Taliban's cultural commission, made the comments Tuesday on Afghan state television, which the militants now control.
Samangani said, "the Islamic Emirate (the militant's name for Afghanistan) don't want women to be victims," adding that the structure of the government remains unclear, but he added that "based on experience, there should be a fully Islamic leadership and all sides should join."
Female Anchors Continue to Present on Afghanistan News Channel
Beheshta Arghand, a female television anchor for Tolo News, interviewed a Taliban official on camera Tuesday in the channel’s studio, asking about the situation in Kabul and the Taliban’s house searches in the capital. Tolo News/Screengrab
Reports like above should provide some political cover for Prez Biden also after bad perceptions mgmt or perhaps some bad mgmt of the transition too. But ending 20 years long war (to which many groups may have been addicted to fleece US taxpayers) on advertized schedule was bound to have some issues.
China won't be exerting influence for women's rights alone, main drivers for China's support ofnew regime would be their own strategic interests (Belt n Road/ETIM etc) not surprisingly:
Chinese envoy urges Taliban to live up to its counter-terrorism commitments
CTGN
1 hour ago
And China's definitions of such commitments might be different from those of other nations.
We'll have to wait and see. But restarting US military occupation and training of corrupt "Afghan Forces" in forseeable decades looks highly improbable.
As for above mayor's claimed statement, quick news search did not show reports of reprisals in Kabul. But it's very early and time will tell how true are claims of 'amnesty'. Did come across a claim of targetting in google news:
Taliban were ‘catching and killing us’: Afghan intel officer who fled to Delhi on last flight from Kabul
The National Directorate of Security (NDS) officer said that the Taliban had sent them notices, asking to ‘revolt the government or die’.
AUG 17, 2021
hindustantimes.com/world-news/afghan-intel-officer-fled-to-delhi-on-last-flight-from-kabul-to-escape-taliban-101629139600183.html
This could be linked to 'counter-terrorism commitments' China had saught if claims are factual , and might not indicate widespread reprisals or targetting of women:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7053282
China's State Newspaper
Crusade against July 14 terrorists to punish whoever attacks Chinese
globaltimes.cn
Whole world will be watching, new regime that will emerge got to be mindful of that too.
Related
Back to Afghanistan! Its for the women!
(but not the Children)
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