Taiwan re-elects Anti-China president with 40%

[Snowball]

Here we go with TAIWAN choosing to side with INDEPENDENCE despite the long-touted expectations that a Pro-China candidate would win.

The Anti-China president stays with - 40%. That's democracy! It's the will of a minority of the people.

(See FULL results in Bloomberg below. He is at 40.1%)

Early results however saw Lai take a comfortable lead of around 43.27% compared to Hou's 34.01% after just about 10% of polling places had reported. The lead narrowed slightly as results continued to trickle in, but not by enough for KMT to have a realistic chance at victory.

In a press conference following his victory, Lai proclaimed, "As one of the first and most highly anticipated elections of 2024, Taiwan has achieved a victory for the community of democracies," He continued, "We see today's results as having three main points of significance: First, we are telling the international community that between democracy and authoritarianism, we will stand on the side of democracy. The Republic of China, Taiwan, will continue to walk side by side with democracies all around the world."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/taiwa...-presidential-race-upsetting-chinas-ambitions

How did it happen? Put in a quickie front 3rd party puppet to stir up the "youth vote" with promises of FREE STUFF !!

A non-traditional candidate resonates with Taiwan’s youth ahead of Saturday’s presidential election
https://apnews.com/article/taiwan-youth-ko-lai-hou-de6685d9addf7815703250e7245ec9e5

and here comes the US who probably SET IT ALL UP.

BIDEN TO SEND DELEGATION TO TAIWAN DAYS AFTER ELECTION IN MOVE LIKELY TO ANGER CHINA

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-send-delegation-taiwan-days-election-move-likely-anger-china

3rd party candidate siphones off 26.5%
FULL RESULTS
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-taiwan-election/[/no-embed]

Chances of action from China are UP after this.

 

[acptulsa]

It's safe to say that if the majority of Taiwanese were foolish enough to want in Red China, they'd have found a way to unite behind the CCP candidate.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

It's safe to say that if the majority of Taiwanese were foolish enough to want in Red China, they'd have found a way to unite behind the CCP candidate.

When they say "Taiwanese voted for democracy" they actually mean hegemony.
Then you wonder why China is supporting Serbia when it comes to issue of Kosovo.

Taiwan is still Chinese/China.

 

[Occam's Banana]

"[W]e are telling the international community that between democracy and authoritarianism, we will stand on the side of democracy."

This is a false dichotomy - democracy and authoritarianism are not mutually exclusive (nor are they exhaustive of the genus).

Not only that, but far more often than not, democracy is just authoritarianism on "easy mode". It may be possible to get more authoritarian than permitting 50% +1 (or, even worse, a mere plurality) of people to forcibly impose their will upon everyone else (just because "democracy"), but it takes quite a bit more effort.

 

[Swordsmyth]

When they say "Taiwanese voted for democracy" they actually mean hegemony.
Then you wonder why China is supporting Serbia when it comes to issue of Kosovo.

I see, you support CCP hegemony.
The CCP has no claim to Taiwan and their rule of the mainland is illegitimate.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Biden does not support Taiwan Independence.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-u-does-not-support-152500924.html

Biden just gave China the green light to invade.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

I see, you support CCP hegemony.
The CCP has no claim to Taiwan and their rule of the mainland is illegitimate.

The US govt has no historical claims to Taiwan..

The only reason the US govt supports the Taiwan Independence movement is so they can build US bases and continue to provoke tensions as they do with Ukraine agaisnt Russia.

Its why China is with Russia on these territorial issues as they are with Serbia on Kosovo.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

I see, you support CCP hegemony.
The CCP has no claim to Taiwan and their rule of the mainland is illegitimate.

Do you know who also supports Ukraine and Zelensky?

Seems to me that "Free and Independent Taiwan is becoming more like a puppet for whatever the Globalists want in East Asia.
Taiwan Stands with Ukraine

 

[Snowball]

I see, you support CCP hegemony.
The CCP has no claim to Taiwan and their rule of the mainland is illegitimate.

The CCP grants Taiwan independence already. It allows Taiwanese to do business and live 100% like Westerners.
It just doesn't want an island 80 miles from its coastline to become a Ukraine. Fair enough? Taiwan has always been Chinese.
It's not China who will decide if there is military force necessary, it is the U.S.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The US govt has no historical claims to Taiwan.

Let me know when we try to annex it.

The only reason the US govt supports the Taiwan Independence movement is so they can build US bases and continue to provoke tensions as they do with Ukraine agaisnt Russia.

Its why China is with Russia on these territorial issues as they are with Serbia on Kosovo.

Nice attempt to distract from the only reason the CCP wants to steal the island; to steal its wealth and enslave its people, just as they did in Hong Kong and the Mainland.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The CCP grants Taiwan independence already. It allows Taiwanese to do business and live 100% like Westerners.
It just doesn't want an island 80 miles from its coastline to become a Ukraine. Fair enough? Taiwan has always been Chinese.
It's not China who will decide if there is military force necessary, it is the U.S.

LOL
How many social credit points is that post worth?
The CCP "grants" nothing, it is held at bay by the weapons of the Republic of China.
If Taiwan is Chinese then it is the RoC that would have a claim to liberate the Mainland, the CCP would be let off easy by Taiwan being independent.
China is the one that will start a war of conquest by invading or not.
Whether the US should interfere if a war starts is an entirely different question.

And don't try to pretend Taiwan is anything like Ukraine, O'Bummer started the coup in Ukraine which had been friendly to Russia in order to kick Russia out of its Crimean naval bases.
The CCP are bandits that stole the mainland and enslaved its people and now that they are about to collapse they are thinking of trying to steal Taiwan to delay the collapse.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Let me know when we try to annex it.



Nice attempt to distract from the only reason the CCP wants to steal the island; to steal its wealth and enslave its people, just as they did in Hong Kong and the Mainland.

wants to steal the island; to steal its wealth and enslave its people

Is that why so American clown politicians like nancy pelosi and her husband had being visiting Taiwan? because the US govt are selling American jobs to Taiwan?

While stealing the wealth and hoping to occupy Taiwan as they did with Kosovo.



Nancy Pelosi defends bringing son on Taiwan trip after husband's DUI charge

 

[Snowball]

Swordsmyth. If Taiwan is not part of China then why would the "Taiwanese" have to declare independence in order to form a State?

Taiwan IS part of China. It's characteristics and semi-autonomous nature are an agreement between the island and China alone.

Stop making excuses for American intervention in world affairs. You should be embarassed to hold those opinions in a Ron Paul Forum.

 

[Snowball]

carrier strike group en route to the Far East

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/12/carrier-uss-theodore-roosevelt-deploys-amid-v-22-grounding

 

[WarriorLiberty]

carrier strike group en route to the Far East

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/12/carrier-uss-theodore-roosevelt-deploys-amid-v-22-grounding

Sending a carrier strike group seems like a threat, trying to provoke China.
As they are doing agaisnt Russia.

 

[RJB]

China wants Taiwan, they want us out of their way, and they have EMP devices in their arsenal and plans.

Google "EMP 90%"

 

[Swordsmyth]

Swordsmyth. If Taiwan is not part of China then why would the "Taiwanese" have to declare independence in order to form a State?

Taiwan IS part of China. It's characteristics and semi-autonomous nature are an agreement between the island and China alone.

Stop making excuses for American intervention in world affairs. You should be embarrassed to hold those opinions in a Ron Paul Forum.

They don't, they are independent.
But ever since Nixon sold out to the CCP the world plays stupid legal fiction games where they pretend not to be sure about it and the Taiwanese play along.

There is no agreement, and Taiwan is NOT part of China, it has been independent or foreign owned for more of history than it was ever owned by China and its people are ethnically distinct.
The CCP has no valid claim, nor should it be supported if it did because the people there do not want to be ruled by communist bandits.

Stop supporting the enslavement of people by communists, Ron would be ashamed to know people on a site with his name support the CCP conquest of free people.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

They don't, they are independent.
But ever since Nixon sold out to the CCP the world plays stupid legal fiction games where they pretend not to be sure about it and the Taiwanese play along.

There is no agreement, and Taiwan is NOT part of China, it has been independent or foreign owned for more of history than it was ever owned by China and its people are ethnically distinct.
The CCP has no valid claim, nor should it be supported if it did because the people there do not want to be ruled by communist bandits.

Stop supporting the enslavement of people by communists, Ron would be ashamed to know people on a site with his name support the CCP conquest of free people.

Stop supporting the enslavement of people by communists

How is that any different with US forces occpying nearly on every country with 700+ bases outpost bases like in Kosovo which are trying to kick out the people of their own province?

China isn't the one with 700+ bases around the world with puppets running countries.

has been independent or foreign owned for more of history

Not Independent but foreign owned by the US govt as you rightful admit.


Independent means having no connection to either nation or foreign identity.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

They don't, they are independent.
But ever since Nixon sold out to the CCP the world plays stupid legal fiction games where they pretend not to be sure about it and the Taiwanese play along.

There is no agreement, and Taiwan is NOT part of China, it has been independent or foreign owned for more of history than it was ever owned by China and its people are ethnically distinct.
The CCP has no valid claim, nor should it be supported if it did because the people there do not want to be ruled by communist bandits.

Stop supporting the enslavement of people by communists, Ron would be ashamed to know people on a site with his name support the CCP conquest of free people.

All the US bases in East Asia just to protect "Freedom & Democracy"?
This is fine right?

Ron would be ashamed to know people on a site with his name support the CCP

There is a difference being a real independent state and being foreign owned..



Why the US govt wants Kosovo? because they give a crap about Albanians? no.
They want a outpost base in the Balkan region to further isolate and provoke Russia/Russians.


Why do they care about Taiwan so much? because the people want freedom and dont want to be enslaved from Chinese evil communists not even close.

 

[Swordsmyth]

How is that any different with US forces occpying nearly on every country with 700+ bases outpost bases like in Kosovo which are trying to kick out the people of their own province?

China isn't the one with 700+ bases around the world with puppets running countries.



Not Independent but foreign owned by the US govt as you rightful admit.


Independent means having no connection to either nation or foreign identity.

It was independent or Japanese owned for far longer than it has been in the US sphere of influence.

And while the US empire is bad, the CCP empire is far worse to its victims, and they are spreading it to many foreign bases and puppet regimes.

You support the CCP's desire to conquer a people who don't want them.
That's disgusting.